Will Syria's Kurds benefit from the crisis?YES , BUT THE TURKS UNHAPPY... AS USUAL

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  1. litwin

    litwin Well-Known Member

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    Syrian Kurdistan and Iraqi Kurdistan are integrating as the nucleus of a new Kurdish nation, and Turkey is to busy with Syria to do anything about the Kurds.
     
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    syrian kurdistan is already established soon there will be elections, parliament and army just like KRG (iraqi kurdistan)

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    2 more occupied parts to go ...
     
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    It is because Turkey(Turks and Kurds) can not be able do find a way(form) to live together...

    It is because old Kemalist Ideology prevents Turkey from finding a multicultural way of life....
    Turks has no idea what is the a peaceful solutoin.In Turks mind only old Kemalist/Nationalists tales and stories and myths turning up and down which,So Far just brought conflict and war.....
    On the other hand Kurdish Nationalist are also far from perfect..They only believe in that Just War and violence can bring them some goodness...Which is completely wrong and old-used idea....

    That's why We are just turning around a vicious circle anfd fixated on Kurdish Issue.....
     
  5. litwin

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    i dont buy it any more, problem here that turkey is one of 3 most nationalistic country in the world. any democratic PM mast follow people wishes , and most of you today choose a bad war with Kurds then a good peace with them ...
     
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    You are right but at the same time you should also see that
    Kurdish Movement is far from perfect and innocent...
    They are 4.in the world, in Nationalism wise....
     
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    no one is a prefect, specially one who fights for existence , you are still dont legalize kurds in your constitution
     
  8. JamesVanArtevelde

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    While there certainly is a distinct possibility that the Kurds in Syrian may be able to turn the crisis in Syria into an opportunity for greater autonomy, it remains to be seen whether they will succeed. Right now the Kurdish area seems to be somewhat less directly involved in the conflict and thereby enjoys some "benign neglect". This can change quickly, though. especially if either side in the civil war gains the upper hand. A stalemate in the civil war and fragmentation of Syria seems to offer the best possibilities for the Kurds. Even then there remains the risk of Turkish intervention, although this would be a serious mistake for Turkey.
    It also is by no means certain that Kurds in Iraq and in Syria will be able to establish a lasting common front.
    Overall, I hope the Kurds in Syria managa to gain the same autonomy as in Iraq. But there is a long way to go.
     
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    its impossible .
     
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    ERBIL, Kurdistan Region – The Kurdish Supreme Council in Syria is planning to establish a military force that would include armed groups from all parties in Syrian Kurdistan.

    The move follows an announcement by some deserters of President Bashar al-Assad’s army of the creation of a force known as the Syrian National Army (SNA).

    The SNA has apparently called on Kurds to join them.

    “We are trying to establish an army for Syrian Kurdistan and are seriously working toward that end,” said Ismael Hama, a member of the Kurdish Supreme Council.

    The Supreme Council was formed in July after an agreement between various Syrian Kurdish groups was made in Erbil.

    The dominant force in Syrian Kurdistan is now the Democratic Union Party (PYD) who politically and militarily controls the Kurdish areas which Assad’s forces have retreated from to fight rebels in Aleppo and other areas of Syria’s Sunni Arab heartland.

    Many perceive the PYD to be close to the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) that has been fighting the Turkish state for three decades, demanding political and cultural rights for the country’s Kurds.

    Aldar Khalil, a senior leader in the PYD and member of the Supreme Council, told Rudaw that the armed units of his group and other Kurdish parties have agreed to join together as the armed forces of Syrian Kurdistan.

    So far, the Kurdish Supreme Council has refused to join the opposition umbrella organization known as the Syrian National Council (SNC) as Kurds are highly suspicious of whether its components would grant Kurdish rights in any post-Assad arrangement.

    The Kurds have not also allowed the Free Syrian Army (FSA) to gain access to Kurdish areas. This refusal to allow any interference has brought them the ire of the FSA and SNA but spared the Kurdish areas from the devastation experienced by much of the rest of the country.

    “We try to keep Syrian Kurdistan safe from the conflict and try to not become part of the disputes between various groups,” said Khalil. “The Kurdish question in Syria is a particular and different question. We want to have our own administration like the Kurdistan Region (of Iraq).”

    “We do not oppose the Syrian opposition or the SNA. We are part of the opposition but our way of struggle is different,” added Khalil. “We cooperate and offer them humanitarian aid to treat the wounded or help refugees cross Kurdistan’s borders. We want our relations to be political and friendly, not military.”

    Earlier this month, around 400 officers and soldiers who had defected from the Syrian Army gathered inside Turkey, near the Syrian border, to establish the SNA. The new army includes the FSA and all other armed groups currently fighting the Assad regime.

    The SNA is said to be the result of a French-Turkish agreement encouraged by the U.S. and Arab countries.

    Khalil said the Syrian opposition “regularly” calls on the Kurds to join the FSA, and now the new army.

    “But we have told them that although we are all in opposition to the Syrian regime, we do not want them to come to the Kurdish areas because we do not need any armed forces and can protect our areas,” he said.

    The PYD’s armed forces had previously said they would not allow any armed elements to operate in the areas they control. The group did not even allow a force of several hundred Kurds who had defected from the Assad army and been trained in Iraqi Kurdistan to return to Syria.

    PYD officials say they do not want foreign aid and will not allow the Kurdish areas of Syria to become a battleground.

    For his part, Ismael Hama, also a senior official at the Kurdish Democratic Party of Syria, said he was not aware of the formation of a new army, adding that Kurds would not want to join any such group.

    “We want to form a Kurdish army and once we do that then we can negotiate with the Syrian National Army,” said Hama.

    He added that the Kurds hope to continue the Cairo talks with the rest of Syrian opposition to reach a “clear agreement.”

    http://www.rudaw.net/english/news/syria/5189.html
     

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