Will the War in Gaza Ignite the Middle East?..Israel and Iran On a Collision Course

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  1. notme

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    Disregarding civilian live is terrorism now and will be in the future.
     
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    So you agree Hamas are terrorists. Great.
     
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    Pervious outcome wasn't that bad. And it looks like they got a lot more to shoot with now.
     
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    .....its vassals and money....if they all want to continue living in this screwed up religious asylum then let them....if not then act like bloody adults
     
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    A warring party who chooses to hide among civilians forfeits that consideration.
     
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    We shall see.
     
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    Go cite international law on this one please.

    While them reserves of Israel all living among the civilians. The HQ of the IDF is also in the middle of Tel Aviv.
     
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    Are you saying its legal under international law to murder civilians?

    Only 10% of Israelis are in the reserves. The other 90% are completely non-combatant civilians.

    Wow.
     
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    The civilians behind whom Hamas hides are themselves victims of Hamas terrorism.
     
  10. notme

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    Are people in reserve and ready to join a war when called up, suddenly civilians? Sounds not very plausible.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reserve_duty_(Israel)
    That's over 1 in 4. So probably every household got 1. And according to Israeli make shift rules, it's all a legal target in a war.
     
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    10%...means 1 in 10. Its called math.

    Only 10% of Israelis are in the reserves. That means 90% are not.
     
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    Not seeing how civilians can just be targeted when Hamas is there.
    And it's very doubtful all them residential buildings were used by Hamas, when eyeballing the carnage the Jewish state did.
    It's all without any kind of consideration, without any kind of proportionality. Israel is just making war crimes.
    And you're just sweettalking it all. How about you go starve yourself just like Israel is doing to them civilians, ey?
     
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    LOL.....26% of the population of Israel is not eligible for reserve duty. Only 10% of the Israeli population is active military or in the reserves. The other 90% are completely civilians and non-combatants.
     
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    sure but that sort of assumes those self same "victims" haven't a clue of what is going on around them. it's a small group of poeple all of whom know what's what and whose part of this....they aren't "victims" they've just meekly acquiessed to the status of servitude....they all deserve what they get....
     
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    Those civilians are victims of Hamas terrorism.
     
  17. notme

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    I sourced that it is and you got nothing.
     
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  18. Jack Hays

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    You have a point. I am often misled by my charitable nature.
     
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    They are far more victims of Israeli aggression violating international law by just bombing all their properties, while they have been violently oppressed their entire life by Israel.
     
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    You misunderstand your own source.

    It does not and never says "26% of Israelis are in the reserves".
     
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    Those bombs are a consequence of Hamas terrorism, of which those Palestinian civilians are victims.
     
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    It says 26% of the population are eligible for reserve duty / had an active reservist status.
    So I'm right and you're not.
     
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    No, it does not say that. Reread your citation.
     
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    "In 2015, about 26% of the population eligible for reserve duty had an active reservist status"

    This does not mean that 26% of Israelis are eligible for reserve service.
     
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    More and more people in the Muslim world are feeling ashamed of the failure of their governments to take any concrete action to help the plight of the Palestinian people in Gaza. I hope my own country would work behind the scenes to have a joint humanitarian convoy of vessels to carry fuel, water, food, and medical supplies to Gaza, with the convoy protected by naval forces from Iran, Turkey and Pakistan. Long before such a convoy reaches Gaza's shores, I'm sure the Americans will have worked out an effective deal to see the seige of Gaza lifted sufficiently to allow needed supplies to the city. A deal would be negotiated for the contents of the humanitarian convoy to be delivered to Gaza by the Americans or the Europeans etc, with the naval forces sent to protect the convoy then heading back home. Otherwise, if such a deal is not negotiated, Israel would have decide whether it would want to start a war with 3 major Muslim countries with sufficient firepower and means to finish it off.
     

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