Woman who claimed Justice Kavanaugh raped her now admits they’ve never even met.

No it didn't. Starr had nothing to do with Clinton's sexual matters until Clinton committed prejury, obstruction of justice, subornation of perjury and witness tampering in a federal court. ACTUAL CRIMES. Just as Whitewater began with a CRIMINAL REFERRAL and because he was President it require an OIC to investigate, the Clinton DOJ could not investigate it just as we have a SC now except that WAS started as a witchhunt without even evidence of a crime let alone a criminal referral.

 

Yes I know, they were witnesses in the case and just like Jones they WERE NOT willing. That is why they were testifying. Clinton's criminal investigation was based on his and Lewinsky's perjury in that federal case and then his before the grand jury. It doesn't matter that Lewinsky was willing, that was not the issue with her. Lewinsky was not called to give testimony that she was sexually harassed or assaulted. Do you know why she was called to give a deposition?

 

The perjury charge was based on Lewinsky - not on the basis of the other claimants you mentioned.

 

Thank you for restating what I have been saying all along. You on the other hand have been going on and on about the rape claimants - which were immaterial to the Lewinsky perjury issue.

 

I said no different and in fact expounded on that, what's your point here?

 

Your post deliberately conflated multiple details to justify fake revisionist history? What did I win?

 

they are still whining over Kavanaugh eh? Despite the FBI locating no proof he was what Democrats said he is, they bleat nonsense.

 

They were material to the Jones case in which he committed the felonies. Jones was allowed to pursue such evidence and Clinton compelled to give such testimony including that concerning Lewinsky under the Molinari amendment which he signed into law. Do you even know why Lewinsky was testifying, why Jones sought her testimony?

And I've said nothing about rape, I noted your fallacious statement about the Lewinsky matter being a witch hunt which you are going round and round about.

 

On the passage of H. Res. 611, Clinton was impeached on December 19, 1998, by the House of Representatives on grounds of perjury to a grand jury (by a 228–206 vote)[17] and obstruction of justice (by a 221–212 vote).[18]Floor proceedings of the U.S. Senate during the trial of President Bill Clinton in 1999, Chief Justice William Rehnquist presiding. House managers are seated beside the quarter-circular tables on the left and the president's personal counsel on the right.
The impeachment of Bill Clinton, the 42nd President of the United States, was initiated in December 1998 by the House of Representativesand led to a trial in the Senate on two charges, one of perjury and one of obstruction of justice.[1] These charges stemmed from a sexual harassment lawsuit filed against Clinton by Paula Jones. Clinton was subsequently acquitted of these charges by the Senate on February 12, 1999.[2] Two other impeachment articles – a second perjury charge and a charge of abuse of power – failed in the House.

 

What are you claiming in my statement of the facts is revisionist and be specific.

 

You were the one that was complaining about my post. Glad you have figured out that your complaint was without merit.

Riddle me this one though ? - Starr was given special powers (power to abridge individual liberty) - powers given only on the basis of investigating something specific - and therefor limited to iExnvestigation of that and that alone.

Those powers were not given to investigate things outside the scope - Whitewater.

What on earth did Clinton's consensual relations with an intern - (relations he was forced to describe in what was referred to as "pornographic detail") have to do with Whitewater ?

How is this not "Fruit of the Poisoned Tree" - same as has been going on in the Trump investigation = Witch Hunt.

 

Reread my post in the specific context of the quote you responded to by @Giftedone...........it will become obvious if you choose to give up the straw....man "specific" grasp.

EDIT: it's also addressed in post #162 now .

 

Clinton committed perjury in his interrogatories submitted to Congress. And he was charged for perjury in the Jones matter. Wonder why they persist in defending Bill Clinton. And the fact the Senate did not convict was only about a removal from office, not the same as a trial in a court of law.

Democrats must have blanked their minds over the other trial that Clinton testified in, the Paula Jones matter.

 

i never said it was. i stated, correctly, that he was impeached for perjury.

 

See Post 162.

 

Ken Starr actually assumed the duty over Whitewater when he replaced the first special prosecutor. While true it started over White Water, deals that were ruled later to have escaped due to the statute of Limitations, wrapped up. Starr was handed more authority. Ergo he was going after perjury and other issues when the issue of Lewinsky came to light. But he had authority handed him as well.

Consensual is the same excuse used by Weinstein now fighting to stay out of prison. Lewinsky was not there to have sex with Bill Clinton. She was an intern he wielded enormous power over. She was in effect a low ranking employee. Being boss does not include being able to use the help as a humidor. And getting blow jobs from.

 

Will she face charges?

Criminal and civil.


MeToo crimes must be prosecuted.



Moi

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You came out blathering on about Clinton being prosecuted for being a rapist. You were informed that Clinton's impeachment for perjury had nothing to do with the rape allegations.

Now you are trying to back-track.

 

And lest we forget, obstruction of Justice.

 

Why are you bringing up Weinstein .. obviously in his case it was not consensual ? You are conflating something that is a crime with something that is not.

What did Clinton's consensual relationship with Monica have to do with Whitewater ?

 

And lest you are actually able to come up with a coherent reason for how Clinton's consensual relationship with Monica was material to the Whitewater investigation.

Clown show --- Full Stop - if you cant. And you cant.

 

Learn what actually happened. It will help you sleep nights.

Why do you mention consensual when that never has been the issue?

 

That you do not think "consensual" was part of the issue only serves to show your lack of understanding of "what actually happened".

Second - why are you avoiding addressing the fact that the Monica issue - consensual or otherwise - was completely immaterial to white water.

 

Why do you assume white water was the issue?

No, you do not give the boss permission over his employees such as they perform acts on him. Do you understand management laws?

 

no. go back and re-read my post. carefully this time. taping your ankles to your chair may help prevent your knee from jerking.