Women’s Boat to Gaza ready to break blockade

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  1. DrewBedson

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    Then why would you say the US military should escort them?


    None at all save the blockade is there to stay until Israel lifts it, not some frumpy housewives at the end of golf season.

    Doubt it. What I see happening is they meet the IDF who calmly tells them to heave to and submit to inspection at a nearby port and end of story.
     
  2. Iranian Monitor

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    The idea is idiotic! While they may hate some "Jews" (and "Christians", and "atheists" and anyone else) who is responsible for the policies and crimes being committed in the name and in pursuit of the projects pursued by Israel, there is nothing about being a "Jew" by itself that would make anyone have any particular animus toward Jews. The world has changed quite a bit since the times when real anti-Semitic sentiments were promoted in what is becoming the distant past. Indeed, the kind of people who once promoted anti-Semitic sentiments are now busy (in concert with many pro Israeli zealots) in promoting anti-Muslim sentiments and Islamophobia. The fact that Israel has formed an alliance with Saudi Arabia, the sponsor of the most virulently backward and dangerous ideas taking up an Islamic label, I guess facilitates the enterprise on not just the geopolitical level but also at the propaganda level by helping these deranged groups become more powerful and, in the process, to make it easier for the average mind in the west equate being a Muslim to being one of these deranged Jihadi criminals (criminals whose whose emergence and power rests in no small measure on the support they got from the policies pursued by the US/Israel/Saudi Arabia and company).
     
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    SamSkwamch Banned

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    Thanks for the sanity.
     
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    They fight us so they dont get a free harbor, really how hard can it be to understand ?
     
  5. Gilos

    Gilos Well-Known Member

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    No, he just sees throu the BS, see the thing about Jew hatred and Muslims hatred is the blind hatred toward ppl one never met simply because of the group they belong to, that's the whole horrific logic behind racism, and you and others do the exact same thing down to the global domination and media control which used to be pinned on Jews - on Israel and basiclly you accuse the same group - and that's why you get most of the racists support here, the demonization against Muslims, Jews and Israel stand at the same root, and so you cant hate a group and lecture others about their hate.
     
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    I am confident that I have no animus against Jews. My personal experience with most Jews, whether American Jews or Iranian Jews, have been quite positive. Whatever I say about the influence of pro Israeli groups, not Jews, in American politics, is based on what I consider overwhelming evidence and the facts as I see them. That is just the way it is in America. The same way you had a very disproportionate influence in Florida by exiled Cuban Americans and the lobbies and groups they sponsored. To point that out is not to be 'racist' about anti-Castro Cubans either!
     
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    So do those same people hate and condemn Assad's Syria and Russia?
     
  8. SamSkwamch

    SamSkwamch Banned

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    G-d willing the women should reach Gaza's shore today. Fingers crossed.
     
  9. Ronstar

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    G-d loves the Children of Israel, and will protect them against these women who seek us harm.
     
  10. DrewBedson

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    SamSkwamch Banned

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    Thanks for the update.

    Please act now. Call or write:

    Peter Lerner, IOF spokesperson
    +972 252 945 2966
    and
    Lt. Gen. Gadi Eizenkot
    contact@tsahal.fr
    idf.europacdesk@gmail.com
    Demand that the women and the boat be freed!
    Please also contact the following authorities and demand that they call for the safety and respect for these women:
    United Nations: His Excellency Mr. Ban Ki-moon
    Secretary General of the United Nation
    E-mail: sgcentral@un.org
    Twitter: @UN_Spokesperson

    United States: John Kerry, Secretary of State
    E-mail: kerryj@state.gov
    Telephone: 202-647-4000
    Web: http://state.gov
    Twitter: [MENTION=5218]John[/MENTION]Kerry
    Follow the U.S. campaign on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Womens-Boat-to-Gaza-US-Section-996595507080925/?fref=ts

    Europe: Federica Mogherini, High Representative for Foreign Affairs and Security
    E-mail: federica.mogherini@ec.europa.eu
    Twitter: @FedericaMog

    AUSTRALIA
    Julie Bishop, Foreign Minister
    Email: Julie.Bishop.MP@aph.gov.au
    Phone: +61 8 9388 0288
    Twitter: @JulieBishopMP
    FB: Julie Bishop MP
    CANADA

    Justin Trudeau, Prime Minister
    House of Commons
    Ottawa, ON
    K1A 0A6
    (No postage required!)
    Phone: +1 613 995 0253
    Phone: +1 514 277 6020
    E-mail: j+ustin.trudeau@parl.gc.ca
    Twitter: [MENTION=59338]just[/MENTION]inTrudeau

    Stephane Dion, Minister of Foreign Affairs
    House of Commons
    Ottawa, Ontario
    K1A 0A6
    Contact Information
    mailto:stephane.dion@parl.gc.ca

    For more contacts in Canada: http://canadaboatgaza.org
    FRANCE

    Monsieur le Président, protégez la Flottille des Femmes pour Gaza
    http://www.plateforme-palestine.org/Monsieur-le-President-protegez-la-Flottille-des-Femmes-pour-Gaza
    NEW ZEALAND/AOTEAROA

    Please contact: https://kiaoragaza.wordpress.com/2016/10/04/demand-israel-allows-womens-boat-to-gaza-safe-passage/
    NORWAY

    Børge Brende
    Ministry of Foreign Affairs
    N-0032 OSLO
    E-mail: utenriksminister@mfa.no
    Twitter: @borgebrende
    www.shiptogaza.no
    SOUTH AFRICA

    Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Womensboattogazasouthafrica/?fref=ts
    SPAIN
    Take action on the streets!

    Please check the following link for details: http://www.rumboagaza.org/convocatorias-asalto-zaytouna/
    Rumbo a Gaza calls on civil society and organizations to gather at 7pm in front of Spanish government offices the same day of the possible interception.
    Rumbo a Gaza calls on the Spanish Government and Spanish MPs and MEPs to protect the Women’s Boat to Gaza mission and their participants, including the Spaniard Sandra Barrilaro.

    UK

    Boris Johnson, Foreign Secretary
    Tel: +44 20 7219 4682
    E-mail: boris.johnson.mp@parliament.uk
    Twitter: @borisjohnson
    Facebook: facebook.com/foreignoffice
    Twitter: @foreignoffice
     
  12. Ronstar

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    Nice and peaceful. See, when there is no terrorist element involved things are much safer for everybody.
     
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    Doesn't Gaza have two borders, Israel and Egypt?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    well, you see Egypt also has a blockade on Gaza.

    but the Egyptians are Muslim Arabs, so no one cares what they do.

    its only a problem when JEWS do things
     
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    Oooooooh no luck, maybe next time, and bring some Turks so we'll have some action ;) :thumbsup:
     
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    They safely did, so you can uncross your fingers:

    IIsrael intercepts anti-Israel flotilla without incident

    The Israeli navy, headed by women members, intercepted a ship carrying 13 pro-Palestinian female activists trying to break Israel’s naval blockade of the Gaza Strip.

    According to an IDF statement, “In accordance with government directives and after exhausting all diplomatic channels, the Israeli Navy redirected the vessel in order to prevent breach of the lawful maritime blockade.

    “In accordance with international law, the Israeli Navy advised the vessel numerous times to change course prior to the action,” the statement continued. “Following their refusal, the Navy visited and searched the vessel in international waters in order to prevent their intended breach of the lawful maritime blockade of the Gaza Strip. The visit and search of the vessel was uneventful.”

    Having left two weeks ago from Barcelona, the group included Mairead Maguire, an Irish Nobel Peace Prize laureate who supports the anti-Israel Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) movement.

    Upon arrival in Ashdod, the IDF will search for smuggled items and weapons and check the participants’ documents, after which they will be deported. No humanitarian aid was found.

    A second ship had left Barcelona as well but was forced to turn back due to engine trouble.

    The women claim that they want to support the women of Gaza who, they say, have been suffering over the past 10 years due to the Israeli blockade. It was in 2006 that the terrorist Hamas regime took control of the Strip after a complete Israeli withdrawal a year earlier.

    As explained by Virtual Jewish Library, “Despite the terror onslaught, Israel continues to supply electricity and water to the Palestinian people, and these plants are sometimes hit by the rockets fired by Hamas from within the Gaza Strip, cutting power to thousands. Since the beginning of 2013, over 20,000 truckloads of supplies from Israel have crossed into Gaza for consumption and use by the citizens. These supplies include meat, vegetables, canned foods, medical supplies, fuel, water, medical equipment, animal food, school supplies, and cosmetic products. The Palestinian Authority [also ]accuses Hamas of stealing thousands of liters of fuel from local Gazan companies and then telling the media that there is a fuel shortage. Fatah members also claim that Hamas is lying about the fuel shortage ‘crisis’ for propaganda.”

    https://worldisraelnews.com/israel-intercepts-anti-israel-flotilla-without-incident/

    Am as happy as you are these misguided, clueless (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s did not drown, or were attacked by Somali pirates. And wonder if they sail back home, or fly from Israeli airport... sail I say, for airport they should boycott :roflol:
     
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    One of Israel's hostages is Northern Ireland's famous Nobel Peace Laureate, Mairead McGuire. This is getting very interesting.

    QUOTE: “Today this collective punishment by Israeli Government policies goes on. Why has it lasted so long? The Palestinians have been most cruelly punished by Israeli policies of occupation, war and destruction. They say that ‘silence’ is golden, but regarding the plight of Gazans and Palestinians the ‘silence’ of the world, especially concerning their little children, shows a lack of moral and ethical leadership from the international Community. It behooves us to ask, “Why is President Obama not saying: ’70 years of Israeli occupation is enough – it is time for Peace for the Palestinians?’”

    --Nobel Peace Laureate, Mairead McGuire



    [video=youtube;z0et5oQRM10]https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLRjSoA4jXcMd8W22sG TKr2xZ04ZG0Rv9s&v=z0et5oQRM10[/video]

    For anyone out of the loop, COLLECTIVE PUNISHMENT IS A WAR CRIME.
     
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    Hostage? Who Teh (*)(*)(*)(*) would want to take her hostage? An uninvited guest she is, and soon as her papers checks out and she's given some Israeli food and other hospitality for the return journey home, out the the Israel (*)(*)(*)(*)ng thrown out she'll be. Along with her uninvited, misguided, clueless Palestinian liberators.
     
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    Indeed, Israel is holding the Islamic terrorists until they check out.

    I agree wholeheartedly. Time for Hamas and the PA to rescind their declaration of war against Israel, strike her violent destruction from their racist and offensive war directed charters and either make peace or surrender.

    True. Blockades and occupying land in time of war is not.
     
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    This bimbo brigade certainly doesn't seem to care much for women's rights in Gaza, or anywhere else in the Middle East. These lack of rights won't be mentioned at all.
     
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    so is firing rockets indiscriminately into Israeli civilian areas.

    so is firing rockets at Israel from densely populated areas in Gaza, when much sparser areas are available to launch such attacks.

    so is storing weapons in Mosques, hospitals, schools, and launching military operations from such establishments.
     
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