Women abuser seen as a victim???

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  1. Yant0s

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    I've seen a few of these experiments and it seems to be a thing the that public sometimes to see the man being abused has done somthing wrong to justify the abuse.

    Also why are women abusers not taken seriously when their victim is a man?
     
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    Why did you do this as two separate threads?
     
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    A classic case of someone ignoring domestic abuse. This is what I'm talking about.
     
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    If you see that as such a problem why don’t you do something about it the way women have been doing ? You might also start a group for parents that are hit by their children rather than parental abuse
     
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    So you don't see this as a problem or an issue the moves you ?

    I can not believe the two posts in responses to this thread try to shoot it down and ignore the issues. Unbelievable....

    It showcases inequality between the sexes where acts of abuse and public violence are accepted in today's society. It's a serious issue that showcases how modern society accepts it's ok to abuse and assault a person if that person is a man and the aggressor is woman.


    Also dont belittle abuse occurring between two adult and compare it as a small child hitting their parents is disgusting.

    Abuse is abuse, please don't try to hide the fact it's occurring and act like nothing is wrong or it's no big deal.
     
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    You seem to think that men are victims of women’s violence in numbers that are comparable to violence against women. Since I don’t see this as an issue that moves me as much as you obviously do, what are you doing about it? When one in four women have been sexually assaulted I find that moves me a lot more . I don’t support shooting elephants but that doesn’t mean I think they should be shot it. I don’t think anyone should be a victim of violence but something else that might be interesting is that a lot of domestic violence against men is from male partners
     
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    Wow you really hate men don't you. This thread was about those videos and how people accept women assaulting men in public and simply choose blame the victim or ignore it .

    You are obviously one of these people. I doubt anything could ever change your mind.
     
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    What are you talking about? The only thing I asked thus far was why you choose to use the exact same two videos in two separate threads? I did not dismiss violence on males. For that matter, I am the one usually having to tell people about how female or male rape is a real thing and that male rape victims, especially those where the attacker is female, has a higher unreported rate than female rape victims. Not a higher incident rate. A higher unreported rate. Pay attention to what is asked and not throw in your own bias towards responses.
     
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    Did you accidentally double the post and then go back and correct the other? It's not there anymore.
     
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    If police arrive responding to a domestic dispute and the man says the woman hit him, and the woman says the man hit her, guess who they're going to arrest?
    It's usually not the woman.
     
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    Thank you for raising awareness about male victims of Domestic Violence.

    It is every man's legal right and ethical duty to advocate for men who are subject to abuse and discrimination.

    Fortunately, in 2019 general public is much more sympathetic to male victims of abuse then in 1999.
     
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    Who do you think is responsible for most domestic abuse, and let's go ahead and include child abuse.
     
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    I apologise, I might have but was completly unaware if I did and the mods deleted if.

    I thought you were just trying to shut this thread down. Again I was wrong and I'm sorry.
     
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    Male rape is a real thing. A childhood friend of mine told us he was raped by an older girl when he was about 15 and she was around 17 or 18.

    He were at a house party, he fell asleep from drugs and alcohol. She i assume fondled his bits and managed to get an erection and proceeded to rape him whilst sleeping. He woke up during the sexual assault, pushed her off him and run out of the house. That's how he thinks he was raped.

    Knobody saw it, but he told people about what happened a week or so after it . It was never reported to the police and sadly the victim was made fun of for being rapped by a woman. To this day nobody knows if what happened in a lie or whatever, but man , someone actually reported a rape and nothing was done about it.

    It's wrong how male victims feel ashamed, considered less of a man, are not taken seriously and ridiculed like my friend if they are victims.

    It's funny how the woman in this story was treated too, her acts didn't rouse hate and discust within the group, it was simply brushed off, not taken seriously and a number of the boys in the group later went on to have consensual sex with the women.
     
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    I suppose come to think of it I've been what could be considered as "sexual assault" happen to me a few times through out my lifetime.


    I've had woman fondle my penis, whilst bent over playing pool. This was unwanted as I was concentrating on my shot and found the woman ugly and did not want her playing with my bits.

    My ass has been grabbed and strangers hands snake up my top to fondle my bare chest countless times. All unwanted by women I don't know.

    Are these acts sexual assault??? I know I didn't want these women touching my in a sexual way. But as a man I brush it off, and think "wow I must be really hot. These women can't keep their hands of me".

    As with most men I have been physically assaulted by females lashing out a few times. If you ask most men, they will tell you they have all been slapped, punched, kicked or whatever by an angry female within their lifetime. It's just the norm in the real world.


    It's interesting the gender equalities regarding sexual and physical assault. Women's violence against men is simply not reported and bushes off by the victim.
     
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    I would not be surprised if it were females???
     
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    That's who it is.
     
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    I just read an article apparently it's only male 40% officially in the UK in this report.


    "Men assaulted by their partners are often ignored by police, see their attacker go free and have far fewer refuges to flee to than women, says a study by the men's rights campaign group Parity.

    The charity's analysis of statistics on domestic violence shows the number of men attacked by wives or girlfriends is much higher than thought. Its report, Domestic Violence: The Male Perspective, states: "Domestic violence is often seen as a female victim/male perpetrator problem, but the evidence demonstrates that this is a false picture."

    And....

    "The official figures underestimate the true number of male victims, Mays said. "Culturally it's difficult for men to bring these incidents to the attention of the authorities. Men are reluctant to say that they've been abused by women, because it's seen as unmanly and weak."



    The charity's analysis of statistics on domestic violence shows the number of men attacked by wives or girlfriends is much higher than thought. Its report, Domestic Violence: The Male Perspective, states: "Domestic violence is often seen as a female victim/male perpetrator problem, but the evidence demonstrates that this is a false picture."

    So basically it's 40% but as authorities tend to not take women carrying out domestic abuse towards men seriously AND men's reluctance to report being a victim. The official % I guess is off and the real figure would be much higher.





    As for the child abuse you mentioned I could only find this study....

    "Despite the feminist rhetoric about male domestic violence, mothers are actually more likely than fathers to neglect and emotionally and physically abuse their children. For instance, figures from the West Australian Department for Child Protection show that of the 582 substantiated cases of child abuse by their own biological parents in 2007-08, mothers were responsible for 73 per cent, while fathers committed only 27 per cent. In Western Australia, mothers are 17 times more likely than fathers to neglect their children. Also, mothers carried out almost 68 per cent of all cases of emotional and psychological abuse committed by parents against their children. Moreover, about 53 per cent of all physical abuse of children, and more than 93 per cent of all neglect cases, were committed by mothers."


    Apparently women are more likely to abuse children.....

    But to be honest I don't think it's about facts and figuers, who commits the most demestic violonce or demonizing one gender. It's about recognising it does happen both ways and not ignoring victims.

    Our responsibility is to recognise, protect and support ALL victims of domestic violence, regardless if they are male or female. Also the attitude that woman the huge persentage victims of is completely false and needs to change.

    It's a people problem and should no longer be seen as a problem that only really affects women.
     
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    As a man I can only state...I would just leave and tell her she f@cked up.
     
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    In most of these cases we're talking about lower income people. The woman wants to push the man out of the house, the man has nowhere else to go and can't afford to keep staying in a motel for several nights when the woman has her temper.

    If there were available shelters for men, I think that would cut down on domestic violence, since it would be easier for the man to just temporarily leave.
     
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    I don't think spending a few nights away from an abusive partner will stop future abuse from happening. But I believe you are right suggesting the need a victim support that way it can help bring the guilty party to justice, protect the victim and help them with leaving the abusive relationship.


    As for a lower income problem, rich, poor whatever the class sexual and abuse can happen.
     
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    Makes you wonder why lesbians an bisexuals have a higher rate than hetero women eh.

    https://www.nsvrc.org/sites/default...packet_statistics-about-sexual-violence_0.pdf

    46.4% lesbians, 74.9% bisexual women and 43.3% heterosexual women reported sexual violence other than rape during their lifetimes
     
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    To be fair, many of these women likely turned to lesbianism after suffering violence at the hands of men.
    Women, in general, have a lot more fluid sexuality than men, so in many cases it's possible for them to do that.

    That being said, abusive lesbians definitely exist.
     
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    Yeah that doesn't make sense.

    Would you start dating men if your wife slapped you around a little? mmmmm no.

    Same sex relationships have a much higher rate of domestic violence.

    That's just the facts.
     
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    Higher rate or higher reported rate? The difference can be significant. As comparison, women have a higher rate of being a rape victim, but the underreporting rate is higher with male rape victims. For your assertion, it might be that women are less afraid of reporting other women than they are of reporting men.
     

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