Women want right to go topless in public, take case to state's Supreme Court

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Reality is going to be different from what many men are imagining.
     
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    :roflol: really, they couldn't think of anything else :lol: well by all means..... free the nipple
     
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    This probably won't catch on until well after the Groundhog Day observances.
     
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    Ration asks?


    ra·tion
    [ˈraSH(ə)n, ˈrāSH(ə)n]
    NOUN
    rations (plural noun)
    1. a fixed amount of a commodity officially allowed to each person during a time of shortage, as in wartime:
      "1918 saw the bread ration reduced on two occasions"
      synonyms: allowance · allocation · quota · quantum · share · portion · helping ·
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    (be rationed)
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    1. allow each person to have only a fixed amount of (a particular commodity):
      "shoes were rationed from 1943"
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    Assume I do not know the answer and explain to me why a man looking down a woman's shirt is not offensive to any women. Explain why women would want to encourage men to look at their breasts.

    After those, explain why some women might find men looking at their breasts to be offensive. Please give details of why and whom, if you believe certain men and certain women are fine with it.

    Don't rely on my explanations. Reason it out for yourself. Tell me why you are correct and I am not.
     
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    You just explained it...men don’t trust each other , women do.
    No , women aren’t more vicious. Vicious is pulling a gun, vicious is being unethical which men tend to be, vicious is sexually assaulting someone, You’re right man don’t rip apart men’s body weight..lol
    Whoever says that gender differences don’t exist? But you act as though it’s genetic. It is socialization from birth on when we dress little girls in pink and don’t dare dress little boys in pink. When we tell a little boy who screams because he is scared that that is bad because girls do that etc. Women seem more vicious to you because the bar is much higher for a woman. In my workshop I pretend that I fall down drunk and cursing. Then I pretend that I am my husband doing the same thing. I asked them who looked worse and they always said I did. A woman cursing is always perceived as crasser than a man cursing..it’s all socialization.
     
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    To those of you who believe God created us, why did God give men nipples?:)
     
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    One is for health and the other is to deny females any sexual pleasure.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The intended purpose doesn't change what they are.

    It is after all the same anatomy corresponding to both the male and female. If you're trying to say female breasts are the same as a male chest, despite the anatomical differences, then you'd also have to concede that the male genital parts are the same as the corresponding female ones.
     
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    Thus far, the only coherent points you've made against legalizing topless women in public is 'i dont want to see them' and 'sexual assault.' Well no one cares what you want to see, you're free to avoid public spaces or wear a blindfold. The only way exposed breasts can lead to sexual assault is if people are unable to control themselves at the site of boobs, which is the foundational principle of the requirement for the burka/hijab in Shariah Law- men cant control sexual urges so women must be entirely covered. If thats not your position as well, you're free to clarify. Ill help crystalize it for you: how does topless women lead to assault?
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you think a man should be free to flash his ding-dong at the ladies?
     
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    When you go to topless beaches, such as South Beach at Miami Florida, you expect all the women to show boobs. But they do not. Nor do they turn to face you so you get a good look. They do what other women do, ordinary things.

    I saw a topless girl laying boobs up at South Lake Tahoe when me and my girlfriend settled onto the beach for some rays. I took a quick peek and of course kept my eyes on my own girlfriend. I did not plan to have black eyes.
     
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    Could you imagine bill Clinton if something like this was passed .
     
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    Again you are wrong, as are the 'specialists' who trained you. It is not entirely and nor evenly mainly socialization. Gender differences are genetic to the extent that they affect personality and perceptions of the world around one. Females are different from males in tastes and perceptions and range of reactions, and that's true regardless of training. Specialists refusing to accept that are crippling themselves as therapists/helpers and harming their patients/clients.

    On the other hand the differences between the genders are not so vast that your round hole and square peg therapy/training routines won't work after a fashion. It's just that they don't work like they should, and that's because they rest on a base of false assumptions. So no doubt you get results as you struggle either to feminize men or turn women more masculine or perhaps do a little of both.
     
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    I don't understand why either gender would want to.
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    Well they sure don't do anything for me; but then I admit to being different in this respect.
     
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    Here is a good one about Boobs that I truly hope gets some smiles and for others, a lot of laughing.

    Two people are discussing this very issue.

     
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    Ever heard of the 'pastime' of dogging?

    "dogging
    this is where people meet up in car parks and watch each other having sex. Sometime other people join in, but its mainly about watching and getting off on it!"

    Looks like there are some people who can't get an erection unless there are 'people watching'? It's all the rage over here!

    https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dogging
     
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    This is the same thing that happened in the 60s. Some women wanted to go topless. Didn't fly.
     
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    Thanks be to the lord!
     
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    If that woman doesn't want to be stared at, why does she dress like that?
     
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    Women eh - how d'you figure them out?
     
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    In Europe, in some places, beaches on the sea or lakes, women do go topless and no one pays any attention because it is so common. But that's at the beach. Not in the city.
     
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    Thelma, she is playing her role in the TV series.
     
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    I saw it myself in 63 in Germany. But you know first it is topless.
     
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    Yes, I know that. But she is playing the role of a woman who is offended because a man looks at her breasts when she is showing them off. A woman would look at them too. We are not used to seeing that kind of display by a mother at the child's school. If you dress like that in certain places, people are going to stare. At the beach, pool, and so on, okay, but in the city, in a professional setting, at school, it's just not typical and is a distraction. But she is supposed, according to the script, to be jusifiably angry at being looked at. Silly. Very silly.
     
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    Not everything is socialization But behavior and stereotyping and internalizing messages is.
    From what you are saying is that men and women breaking their roles is damaging ..why? What could be wrong with a little boy play with a doll? Is nurturing a bad thing? I remember when dr sets were for boys and nursing kits were for girls.
    Why must people assume roles? What do you fear?
     

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