World’s ‘solar and wind capital’ freezing due to snow ‘blanketing millions’ of solar panels

It's rather simple. If you take of the chimney of your precious woodstove and let the sucker burn for a week in your house like that, with all the indoor doors open .... than your house would be pretty much a biohazard and you know it.

 

lol
The way you just assume I live near some kind of woods where there could be a fire season.
Your entire post has nothing to do with the OP. I'm not here for your psychological comfort.

 

Wtf? That's like saying if I suck on the exhaust pipe of a vehicle, then it might be toxic.

Let the power grid take a hit in the winter and we'd see how people with your mentality would be crying for wood heat. Poor thing.

 

The conversation is about heating homes in winter and then regarding wood heat. How you ventured out to open campfires is beyond me.

 

Maybe you missed the part of my post that said if your comforts were taken away.
You're too used to things be handed to you and don't know about basic survival. It's ok, most of today's society are full of wusses with little real life skills. I'm a woman and I'd run circles around most of you men.

 

You might notice in my post that you quoted, the word "camper" was there then how you ventured on to wood burning stoves is beyond me!

 

LOL! No one denies climate change. Surely you know that.

 

Another giant boondoggle painfully exposed in the cold.

 

Yeah well.. you brought up "There are liberals who even think the wood burning is toxic"... while it just is.

As for being hit by the winter: we all know the power outages are rather temporary and as far as I know it has never caused a massive amounts of death. The idea that massive urban area's should be going back to burning their own wood and coal, to be sure you can always heat your apartment, office, hotel or store is just utterly insane and simply backward.

 

Funny thing is.... No one ever refuted that climate change is real. Some just think 'WE ARE ALL GONNA DIE!!!' while others think that we are in a cyclical warming period as climate has been changing for hundreds of millions of years.

 

Tell that to the people in Texas who have to resort to getting in their vehicles to stay warm.

Well have no fear, if you lose your comforts, at least you won't create any toxicity burning wood. You could fade away quickly in the cold knowing you're green ways were safer for you.

 

Is that why "progressives" support letting the forests burn?

 

Meanwhile, the reality ...

https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/02/texas-power-grid-crumples-under-the-cold/

Wind power in Texas is producing _more_ power than expected, and there's still a 30 GW shortfall.

The shortfall is mainly due to a natural gas shortage. The fossil fuel plants planned poorly. They did not contract for reliable supplies, because that costs more, so now they're short.

There's also a lesser issue that coal piles are frozen, so the coal plants are producing at less than peak capacity.

Another contributing factor is that the USA basically has 3 power grids -- east, west, and Texas. Texas has few connections to outside grids, so it can't import any significant amount of power.

But basically, this is a failure of capitalism. There's no profit in making a grid that has enough capacity to handle the most extreme events, so when the most events happen, the grid can't produce enough power.

 

Telling that burning wood is indeed rather polluting? What else? That the world is indeed round as well?
They be fine. I read somewhere that in a matter of hours that same day that 100.000's got their power back.
At that rate... it's just a couple of days being inconvenient.

They could, instead of getting a woodstove, just get a solar panels and get some heat like that.

 

You can generate electric heat from solar panels. It takes a LOT though in order to do that and a lot of money for panels, battery banks, and many other supplies not to mention a licensed electrician to install it all.

It all depends on one's situation. I live around thousands of acres of forestland so it makes perfect sense for me to use wood heat.

 

Evidently electric power generation in Texas is in the hands of one company and they consider the hot Summer as their prime generation time when they have maximum electric generation. The Winter months is usually their low generation time as it normally does not get that cold and remain so for long, they just were not ready for this bitter cold and prolonged period of it they have experienced this year.

 

I don't know, I never tried it.
But it seems to be the accepted way to do it.

 

Pff... with an investment of like 6K you usually earn your money back in 7 years due to reduced costs of needing a lot less electricity.

Doesn't change a thing that a woodstove is still polluting. And if everybody in the country would go back to wood, than you wouldn't be living in thousands of acres of forestland. It all would need to be cut to use as fuel.

 

Yeah. Also sat around a wood stove.
But if I wanted to get warm I didn't sit in the next room.

 

6K would barely cover the install, the battery bank alone would run you that (on the lower end) and that's only if you didn't need much. Generating solar heat in winter is a huge expense for solar, which is why most people who rely on solar use wood burning for heat.

You seem very uneducated on the topic you're attempting to debate.

 

In the area of the ozarks where I live, many/most homes use wood burning stoves for the main source of heat and I've never known anyone to have to huddle around the stove as you describe.

 

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Uhh... ever bothered to look on Amazon? A solar panel is like a car.. you got all kinds of sizes and whatever. But on average 1 solar panel is around 70 bucks, make it a 100. And so 6K gets you all the way there.

Coming from a person claiming that a wood stove is not polluting... lol

 

LOL so you think you just set up some panels and voila? Very uneducated. Look up battery banks, charge controllers, the wiring isn't cheap either. To power electric heat would take quite a system too, which is why many off gridders use wood heat.
Here's a link to one single battery, most systems will need at least 6 of these to power an entire home: SimpliPhi PHI-3.8-48-60 48 Volts Lithium Ion Battery | Northern Arizona Wind & Sun (solar-electric.com)

And yes, my wood heat is great and free! No one can turn it off either.