Worse Than Emergency Situation With USA's Friend

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  1. Americann

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    BBC Report:

    India denies stifling democratic protest after police arrest some 1,300 people supporting a planned fast by high-profile anti-corruption campaigner Anna Hazare.

    Mr Hazare has been jailed for a week in Delhi's notorious Tihar prison. Anna Hazare was arrested hours before his fast against a proposed new anti-corruption law.

    India's Home Minister P Chidambaram said the detentions were because protesters had not obeyed police conditions for the demonstration.

    Shortly after his arrest the Indian government offered to release the 74-year-old campaigner, prompting hundreds of his supporters to gather outside the prison to celebrate.

    But one of the campaigner's aides said he had gone on hunger strike and was refusing to leave until the police could guarantee his original protest - which led to his arrest - would be allowed to go ahead.

    Plainclothes police officers picked him up from a house in Delhi and drove him away in an unmarked car, fellow activist Akhil Gogoi told the AFP news agency. Police later said he had been held for allegedly breaching the peace.

    The police laid down six conditions for the fast to take place, which included the following: no more than 400 to 500 people are allowed to gather, the fast should be limited to three days; and there is parking for a certain number of vehicles.

    "Nowhere in the world are protests allowed without conditions," said Mr Chidambaram.

    On Monday, Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh said hunger strikes by campaigners would not help to tackle corruption.

    India has recently been hit by a string of high-profile corruption scandals, including a multi-billion dollar alleged telecoms scam, alleged financial malpractices in connection with the Delhi 2010 Commonwealth Games and allegations that houses for war widows were diverted to civil servants.

    Critics of the government say the scandals point to a pervasive culture of corruption in Mr Singh's administration.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-14542053

    Situation is worse than Emergency: BJP

    "Our senior party leaders are discussing this issue. We will do something in a couple of hours from now.This situation is worse than emergency and its all due to arrogant attitude to government," Naqvi said.

    "This is like emergency. We are likely to move an adjournment motion," said Prakash Jawedkar.l

    New Delhi: The BJP reacted strongly to the detainment of Anna Hazare by the Delhi Police before his fast on Monday saying that the government was acting stubborn which will only make the fight against corruption difficult to handle.

    http://ibnlive.in.com/news/situation-is-worse-than-emergency-bjp/175941-37-64.html

    USA and India are good friends according to Obama.

    Indian congress government says "violence is not allowed and non-violence or peaceful protest against $1.5 Trillion illegal money is also not allowed.

    Now what will honest and hard working Indians do?

    Indians are comparing Anna Hazare to Mahatma Gandhi.

    Indian minister Kapil Sibal says "Anna Hazare was threatening us with fast if the people's bill was not approved, so he was arrested"

    I am laughing because in India, honest people cannot threaten the parliament with peaceful protest such as fasting. Biggest joke in human history.

    Indian ruling ministers are the biggest clowns or jokers in the world. Read BBC and CNN for Indian circus.

    2 months back, a Sadhu or Jungle-man named "Ramdev" has started a revolution in India. I think Ramdev has 50 million or 100 million followers and supporters in India. He is well connected to political parties in India since some reports said his ayurvedic/herbal medicines and donations have earned Ramdev some $2 Billion in 2 years.

    Ramdev started a fast campaign against black money estimated $1.5 Trillion and corruption in India but Indian police attacked Ramdev and his supporters at midnight in which 40 to 100 people have been injured and some have been injured seriously. The police attack resulted a raging fire in Ramdev's massive tent/camp which could have killed hundreds of people but the fire was stopped by protestors. There was a big fight between police and protestors. Ramdev was kidnapped by Indian police and later flown out of Delhi. For 8 hours, nobody knew where the police had taken Ramdev.

    A woman protestor has been critically injured in midnight police attack and she is hospitalised in ICU. Doctors say she maybe paralysed for life since she was hit on her neck.

    Some politicians said this is "emergency like act". A serious political war had started between Indian opposition politicians and ruling politicians and the Indian president had called for high level meeting with the opposition party.

    Some politicians are saying that Sadhus cannot dictate politics in India. So my understanding says that ruling politicians are jealous because Sadhus are getting more importance and they are not able to digest this. Also some politicians are connected to fraud/scam people and companies so they are scared they will be caught. This is the reason Indian police was ordered to attack Ramdev and his supporters at midnight. Politicians are death scared of somebody.

    Even the leader of India ruling congress "Sonia Gandhi"(Italian born) was not supporting Congress decision to attack Ramdev and his supporters. Some unknown people say Sonia Gandhi and her son Rahul may have $30 Billion black money. Mukesh Ambani, richest Indian has $20 Billion.

    The situation in India seems to be serious since the Indian government will fall in coming days. Prime minister Manmohan Singh is nowhere to be seen.
     
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    since when is India an Ally of the U.S? More like trading partner...
     
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    There is always Worse Than Emergency Situation in India and USA. So USA and India are allies.

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    Libya and Syria are both having troubles, they must also be allies!


    Worst logic.....ever
     
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    According to Obama, USA and India are good friends. What can I do?

    I agree Obama has the worst logic in human history.
     
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    I never said Obama has bad logic.

    Also Obama would only say that for pure political points. what the leader says is not always reality (out of all people i thought you would know that)
     
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    Obama: Dollar just an illusion - the US currency was actually not worth anything.

    In a sensational interview President Barack Obama provided some deep insight into the monetary system: "The dollar is just an illusion" - the US currency was actually not worth anything.

    In the program "60 Minutes" of an US TV channel that is to be broadcast next sunday, the idea had actually been to put US President on the spot about the causes of the financial crisis and possible approaches to resolve it. But the assembled journalists were astonished to hear Obama tell them that the crisis was more deeply rooted than a lot of people thought.

    Specifically, Obama explained that the trigger for the financial crisis - the subprime crisis - wasn't actually a US-specific problem, but was a problem of the monetary system itself. This system involved compound interest effects that caused more and more debt, which in turn made it necessary to search for ever more debtors. The logical consequence therefore was that even people who were not credit-worthy were being lent huge amounts of dollars. Literally, Obama said: "Our money is an illusion."

    The group of journalists then asked him to elaborate. Obama did not hold back: "Money is nothing other than debt. The money that you carry in your pocket is other people's debt. Money only comes into existence through debt. And that is precisely the problem that we are having right now."

    A senior economist amongst those present questioned this stance, asking whether this meant that paying back money would also destroy money. Obama said that that was the case.

    Paying back debt destroyed money. That was also the reason why the dollar was running short and therefore increasing in value compared to other currencies: "Most loans are made in dollars. When these are paid back even in part, money is destroyed, and the dollar becomes scarce and expensive." That was the only reason why the greenback was rising against other currencies, because what was actually in people's interest was a weak dollar.

    But in his view the fundamental problem was the fact that the monetary system was reliant on ever-increasing debt levels. However, you could not take on debts without limitation. "That is precisely why we are in such a deep mess," were the US President's precise words.

    "Are you saying that money doesn't really exist in its pure form?" one journalist wanted to know. Obama nodded and said that that was precisely the case. And because everybody was indebted up to their limit now, the money in your pocket was practically worthless, and that's why we were having a big problem now. However, this wasn't just a dollar-specific problem, but a problem affecting all currencies.

    Another journalist wanted to know what the FED was up to, giving out billions of dollars via QE2. Obama responded to this by disclosing what was probably one of the best kept secrets: The FED actually did not have any money. It creates it out of fresh air - by the push of a button. Like a conjuror.

    Obama admitted that he had spoken to the head of the central bank Bernanke on this issue beforehand. Bernanke had advised him that it would be best if he did not make the facts public. But he, Obama, represented the 'change' after all, and that therefore also meant a paradigm shift as far as money was concerned.

    This prompted a reporter to respond angrily: "Are you saying that the FED creates money out of fresh air - while others have to work hard for it?"

    "That's precisely the case," answered Obama. But he would do what he could to ensure that there would also be more honesty in the monetary system in future. It was just not on that banks or the central bank created money out of fresh air while others had to work hard for it.

    The US President explicitly advocated a new type of monetary system, but said that one had to bear in mind that this was an extraordinarily difficult issue. The last president who tried to do this paid for it with his life. Obama: "I don't want to end up like Kennedy. I really want to make a change. We need to change the system. Yes, we can!"

    Read more........

    http://www.mmnews.de/index.php/english-news/7593-obama-dollar-just-an-illusion-
     
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    Two Things
    1-Learn basic economics
    2-What does this have to do with this thread?
     
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    USA and India are allies in economic situation, society situation and trading.
     
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    Hm that sounds alot like trade partners....Just like i said an hour ago...
     
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    Every Indian family will get $50,000 to $70,000, if $1.5 Trillion illegal money is brought back and given to honest and hard working Indians.

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    Every American family will get $1 Million will USA government pays or distributes $9 Trillion to Americans citizens. Instead of giving $9 Trillion whatever bailouts to bankrupt compnies and countries. Think about it.
     
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    Even the British did not place checks, like ones place on hazare, on Mahatma Gandhi: Sharad Yadav

    Indian Rajputs were happy with the British rule in India. Indians were also happy under the British rule.

    India population is 1.2 billion people so India is a big market for Boeing, Airbus and infact all world companies. India's situation is very important for world economy.
     

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