Worst president in US history

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Who was the worst president in US history?

  1. Barack Obama

    43.1%
  2. Richard Nixon

    4.2%
  3. Franklin D. Roosevelt

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Jimmy Carter

    4.2%
  5. George W. Bush

    22.2%
  6. Bill Clinton

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  7. Other (please specify)

    26.4%
  1. Mr_Truth

    Mr_Truth Well-Known Member

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    "My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government." --Thomas Jefferson

    "Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust them with arms." --James Madison



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    This is the best way to stop police from killing innocents on the streets.

    Too bad the right wing fails to call for armed public action against them.





    "Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong." --Calvin Coolidge

    "Man is not free unless government is limited." --Ronald Reagan




    That is why government involvement in Middle Eastern affairs is not the solution to those problems and should be withdrawn IMMEDIATELY. All forum right wingers should agree with this TRUTH.
     
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    Since it is evident that further interventionism won't work in the ME, Obama should withdraw all of our resources from there. After all, it's been 10 years and they've gotten enough of our money and should have corrected all their problems by now.

    As for domestic police terrorism against the citizenry, since Obama has not taken away weapons (unlike Bush in NOLA) he at least cannot be blamed for those troubles. On the contrary the right wing condemned him for intervening in the Henry Louis Gates case in Cambridge by saying he had no business in that matter. But somehow these delusionals found he has reason to intervene overseas to solve their problems!


    Obama has done a lot of good for the USA (certainly as compared to the totally incompetent Bush). But he could do more by withdrawing from overseas affairs.
     
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    Are you sure it's not George Washington?
     
  4. CourtJester

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    The sum of their knowledge is emoticons and YouTube videos.
     
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    Armed citizenry is working really well in Iraq. Could this be your model of a citizen militia?
     
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    I am still waiting AlphaOmega. You promised.
     
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    What, exactly, is the point of responding to my signature?
     
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    This statement clearly implies a link between the debt and Obama turning things into a living hell. Of course you can always say that you didn't mean to imply that, you were just trying to dodge the question.

    Okay, so if it's not about the color of Obama's skin, where does this rabid, foaming at the mouth hatred of the man come from? And fair warning, if you try to say anything he's done as President is the reason, Ill simply search the database for posts of you saying how evil Obama is before whatever it is you claim is the reason happened. This started the day he was elected. Why? If you can give me an even remotely plausible reason that doesn't involve race, I'll apologize for my comment. I've been looking for the reason for all of this for six years, and have only recently and reluctantly come to the conclusion that's it's really just plain old racism because nothing else I can think of makes sense. I really don't want to believe it. I want to believe that the US is better then that. so if you can give me a plausible reason, I'll be very happy.
     
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    Obama himself called the Bush debt irresponsible and unpatriotic. Tell us how much debt Obama added to that number.
     
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    interesting idea. could you explain why you would think that?
     
  11. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    From his horrific decisions he has made as President. They are all documented in great detail on this forum. Go back and read them at face value instead of assuming anyone disagreeing with Obama must be a racist. Im not going to summarize the countless failures of this president. If you don't know then you never will because you don't want to see them.
     
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    Isn't it strange?
    While many non Americans regard Obama as one of the best, man American regard him as one of the worst. I sometimes wonder, whether his black skin and his more social values play a part in this....
    Regards
     
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    Obama has two years to redeem himself, so I can't say he's actually the worst just yet, but he's running close to Wilson as we speak. On that, Wilson is by far the worst we've ever had unless Obama keeps up his record of failures. He alone set the stage for World War II to happen. Some might say that's an arrogant assessment, until they read the history of Wilson and his personal hand in Versailles. Not to mention the fact he campaigned on keeping America out of WWI, all the while setting the stage to enter it. Talk about someone lying their way into war. Wilson was scum, and a liberal, go figure...

    Obama is getting closer every day. He has ruined decades of foreign policy in a few short years, some of which may never be righted. At this point in his presidency there is not one international relationship we have that is better than when he got there, oh maybe Iran, and that only to finish their nuke program. There is not one place on the planet that is more stable than when he took office. Obama is a disaster at every level. I can think of no other president that blamed his woes on others like Obama does, in fact which other president ever blamed anyone for their problems besides Obama? I honestly thought Obama would just be Carter bad, but he's way worse, he makes Carter almost look good by comparison. Obama didn't inherit any problems, he campaigned for a job that is supposed to fix problems. We have never had a worse leader than Obama. In two years I'm certain we'll have never had a worse president than Obama either...
     
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    The calls made on this and other threadsby right wingers is for further American government intrusionism. Your signature addresses the fact that LESS government is more desirable. In principle conservatives should be calling for less government intrusionism in the ME but, instead, are calling for more. My point should be obvious = the right wingers are dead wrong, again because if less government is more desirable then we need LESS involvement in the ME.
     
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    The instability and chaos that exists in Iraq was predicted by many people long before Mr Obama got into the White House. He followed the withdrawal time table that had been set by Bush and the people of Iraq voted Shiia al-Maliki (of the terrorist al-Daawa party) back into office . They could have voted in a Sunni leader and the majority would have controlled the government. Obama was not responsible for the vote they took.

    Obama cannot be policeman of the world as so many want him to be. There are enough problems at home that he needs to deal with. Adding more money into the war is of no value since conservatives always say pouring money into a problem won't solve it. Therefore, Obama's one true error is in staying in Iraq. Let those people settle their affairs. It is none of our business.
     
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    hands down Ronald Reagan

    •Mass deaths by collaborating with genocide in Guatemala, US sponsored terrorism in Nicaragua, supporting repression in El Salvador and Honduras, US bombing El Salvador, and invasion of Grenada.
    •Chemical warfare, Plan Colombia spraying of herbicide glyphosate.
    •Selling biological weapons material to Saddam Hussein

    Drug War
    Neo-liberal economic policies have destroyed the middle class and widened the gap between the rich and poor.
    Appointed racist judges who have dismantled desegregation
    Reversed gains made by civil rights movement.
    Wasted billions of dollars on corporate welfare, especially weapons systems that we don't need and usually don't work. (SDI)

    An evil, cowardly man.
     
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    I am traditional and I still evaluate as the less influential [and so the most useless] presidency of the last decades the one run by Jimmy Carter. It was so useless that Americans didn't reelected him.

    I tend to consider a reelection at least as a sign of political capabilities [at the end a President is a politician, so that I give good marks to a politician able to make the people voting for him twice].
     
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    In the entire history?

    Still has to be Obama, next Carter, next FDR, next Wilson, next Bush Jr.
     
  19. Rickity Plumber

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    After 118 postings, Obama is still the Biggest Loser!
     
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    Hmmm,
    are you serious?
    No problems, the war criminal Bush left? No debt the privious government left? No problems with Wall Street and bank loans, which should never have been allowed?
    What do you think the job of any government should be?
    Mate, come on.....
    Regards
     
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    Absolutely, he didn't inherit them, he campaigned, won, and asked for them...
     
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    The only thing this poll reflects is FOX News' TV ratings. Not intelligence, knowledge or logic. Only TV ratings.
     
  23. AlpinLuke

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    Worse than Carter ... this says a lot!
     
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    And I used to think that Carter was THE worse President ever. He was useless. 444 days of captivity and he did nothing. One day of Reagan in the hot seat and Iran releases all the captives. Obama takes the cake though.
     
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    This hatred was already rearing its head before Obama even took office. This has nothing to do with anything he's done as President. And in any case, complaints about what he's done as President are almost always of the sort, "Well, Obama did it, therefore it must be evil." When you start with the conclusion that Obama is horrible in looking at something he's done, then obviously that can't be why you originally concluded that Obama is horrible. Cause precedes effect, not the other way around.
     

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