Worthless meddling moderates and compromise equals FAIL!

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  1. perotista

    perotista Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ah, but the Republicans could only run those who decided to run. The nominee will come out of the group that decides to run. If someone says no or decides not to run, you can't elect him. You must choose between those on the ballot, not off.
     
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    Prunepicker Well-Known Member

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    No! Any responsible candidate would have won.
     
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    Prunepicker Well-Known Member

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    And obamacare wasn't in the best interest of the US. Nobody but the big government left and
    worthless meddling moderates.wanted it.
     
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    Prunepicker Well-Known Member

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    Correct, and if the Republicans has selected a reasonable candidate the current president would
    be in Chicago.
     
  5. perotista

    perotista Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In 2008 the choices, those who actually ran for president in the Republican Primaries were McCain, Giuliani, Hunter, Huckabee, Paul, Romney, Keyes and Thompson. There were no other choices. So out of this list who is your responsible candidate that could have beaten Obama.

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    So who would you have selected?
     
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    Prunepicker Well-Known Member

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    Any of the others, except Romney, would have beaten the current president hands down.
    McCain and Romney are worthless meddling moderates.
     
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    A candidate who was "severely Conservative" might have won. ;)
     
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    "Would have" is for losers
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are welcome to your extremist opinion.... but is it informed ?

    You are welcome to your extremist leanings .. but that does not make moderate ideas or moderation worthless.

    It is extremism that is killing the GOP's chances ... and not moderation (IMO)
     
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    I hope you realize that you're op and your response to my post implies that You think compromise is a bad thing
    It does not produce positive results
    Again I Point out to you that there were many compromises at the constitutional convention


    Based on most of your post and responses to other people I doubt you would accept any proof of compromise among the lawmakers in Congress
    So I'm not going to, research to find compromises in the government
     
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    Prunepicker Well-Known Member

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    Like I said, a reasonable candidate would had won. worthless meddling moderates and
    their passionless thinking is always a bad decision.
     
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    Prunepicker Well-Known Member

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    Not true. In the case of the current president everybody lost.
     
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    Prunepicker Well-Known Member

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    Not true. I'm very informed.

    Extremism isn't killing the GOP. The worthless meddling moderates are killing the GOP.
    They've done nothing in the best interest of the GOP. Not a single thing.

    However if you can list something please do and in detail.

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    And again you provide no evidence of a bill that's in the best interest of the US
    was compromised. If it's so rampant surely you can provide the evidence.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Informed about what ? You have yet to figure out that a single human cell, something with no brain, no thoughts, no feelings and almost no human characteristics is not a living human.

    Adopting a more moderate position on Abortion would greatly help the GOP.

    Folks on the right who want to end the stupid and costly drug war and stop trampling on individual right and freedoms would go a long way to restoring some respectability to a party that has lost respect.

    However if you can list something please do and in detail.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You can engage in verbal mumbo jumbo, >>>MOD EDIT Flamebait Removed<<< all you want but this is not going to change a single human cell into a living human.

    A "Stage of human development" is not a human. Just like a "Stage of Product Development" is not the product in question.
     
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    Prunepicker Well-Known Member

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    I'm informed enough to know that a human zygote is an early form of human development.
    Should I suppose you believe it'll become a tomato? A puppy? A fire hydrant?

    It's a human. Period.
    In the opinion of those who favor murdering children. The GOP needs to fight against
    this brutality.
    Fortunately it's the right who want to uphold individual rights. The left if in favor of
    less Liberty and more government.
     
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    MOD EDIT - Rule 4

    Yes it is. It can be nothing else.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That a single human cell can be part of the creation of a living human that might exist some day does not magically turn that cell into living human.

    The fact that you can not seem to understand this fact does not make your claim any less fallacious.


    People of all political stripes should be fighting against ignorance and fallacy that make up most of the Pro-life talking points.

    Neither the left nor right gives a hoot about individual rights an freedoms in general.

    The reason we continue to lose these freedoms is because of partisan nonsense where the one side cry's foul on the other for the same things that they do.

    Each side is only for freedoms they agree with. If you only believe in freedom for things you agree with ... then you really don't believe in freedom at all.
     
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    Prunepicker Well-Known Member

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    You're the one making naked claims. Please provide evidence that a human zygote can
    become anything else besides the human it is.

    So far you've only provided naked claims.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Building nonsensical straw men is not an argument for much. I never made any such claim.

    The fact that a zygote was involved in a process that resulted in the creation of a human, does not make it a human.

    A human heart cell is involved in a similar process during the creation of a heart but a human heart cell is not a heart.

    At least a human heart cell can claim to have been part of the structure of the heard. A zygote cell can not claim to have been part of the structure of a human.

    Sorry dude ... your argument is fallacious nonsense.
     
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    Boehner pushed through sequestration, which actually worked to rein in spending. Too bad, they got rid of it as soon as they could.

    Nothing wrong with compromise, if both sides lose something and gain something. The problem is that Republicans havent' gotten anything out of their compromises, and the Dems haven't lost anything....
     
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    Prunepicker Well-Known Member

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    Yes it does. That's because it's nothing else nor can it become anything else. It's a human from
    the get go.
    In your opinion. The zygote of a human is an early stage of human development whether or not
    it has a heart or anything else. It can't be anything else.

    Please provide evidence that this is anything but human. So far your opinion is incorrect.
    This is wishful thinking. The zygote is as much a human as an infant, toddler, teenager, etc...
    They are all different stages of human development.
    Using this mode of thinking it must be a tomato, a puppy or a fire hydrant.

    The zygote of a human is an early stage of human development. It can't be anything else.
     
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    Prunepicker Well-Known Member

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    There is something wrong if both sides get what they want. That's why the country is in the
    mess it's in. Compromise, and especially on important issues, is wrong. Maybe compromising on
    calling french fries Freedom fries is harmless. It must be avoided at all costs when it's an
    important issue otherwise it gets watered down and becomes useless.
     

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