Would Congressional Removal of Donald Trump Result in Worldwide Economic Collapse?

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  1. Sanskrit

    Sanskrit Well-Known Member

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    Yes or no? What do you think?

    My opinion is that the removal of Trump from office would result in instantaneous, irreversible, global economic collapse.

    Domestic tax revolts would destabilize our markets, result in an instant global market crash, crash our currency and debt worldwide, and bring about a hyperinflation that the world's central banks cannot handle, all exacerbated by bears on many fronts.

    No United States President has -ever- been removed from office.
     
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    Thehumankind Well-Known Member

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    No, there are so many think tanks under US government disposal to handle those scenarios, US is not all about Trump only. He even have advisers on his side when making some policies as I could presume.
     
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  3. Sanskrit

    Sanskrit Well-Known Member

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    What on EARTH does the OP question have to do with "think tanks?" But you are certainly welcome to your opinion.
     
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    Thehumankind Well-Known Member

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    Well thank you,
    I think the US government from time to time always cater from think tank services,
    they are sort like advisers. Their services will be needed mostly with the chaotic circumstances that you've portrayed.
    Link below.
    https://www.tripsavvy.com/top-think-tanks-in-washington-dc-1038694
     
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  5. Creasy Tvedt

    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    I'm gonna say YES.

    Prove me wrong.
     
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  6. thoughtprocess

    thoughtprocess Well-Known Member

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    I think yes. I posted long ago trumpism will cause massive civil destruction. Republicans won’t pick up arms nor will a Democrat but trumpers won’t hesitate. He has awakened a beast the worse form of justice throughout history. And this is not racist but the definition is purely JUST WHITE JUSTICE. The example is history. True Justice encompasses all colors only to be described as humanity.
     
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    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    Let's take off the TDS glasses, and look at this with rational eyes.

    When Trump was sworn in, we saw riots breaking out, and we saw civil destruction.The leftist media assured us they were mere "protests", but they weren't fooling anybody.

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    So that happened, BUT, as we all know, the right-wing alt-right redneck Nazi Trumpers are armed to the teeth with AK-47s, there are droves of them out there, they're the most violent, unhinged lunatics on the planet, they pose a serious threat to society, and Trump is their literal Hitler.

    This is all leftist common knowledge, right?

    Okay, so the Democrats just impeached King Orange Hitler. They went directly after the Grand Cyclops of the Trumpers with the most powerful weapon in the political arsenal, and yet not a single riot broke out, not a single police officer was so much as jostled, no angry mobs smashed the windows of any Democrat offices, and no Democrat politician was injured, or threatened, or harassed on the streets, or at their homes.

    Nothing.

    So, tell me again, who are the dangerous crazies?
     
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  8. thoughtprocess

    thoughtprocess Well-Known Member

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    Your argument would be valid although not fact based if Sir Donald didnt call for it himself or there won’t multiple videos of the same looking guy actually saying we WILL do just that. And I remember tragedy a for some reason even though trump won Charlottesville comes to mind and that was just on 1 issue. I wonder why I can remember and people can forget
     
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    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    Here was the right-wing response to Trump's impeachment.

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    Where are the riots? Where are the fires? Where are the police in riot gear? Where are the smashed store windows?
     
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    Next time we have an anti-business president, the cost will be painful. Worldwide collapse? No. Economic downturn? For sure.
     
  11. Canell

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    Probably. But for that to happen not only Democrats but Republicans have to stick not a knife but an axe in America's back. Would they do that? Probably not. I hope not.
     
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    Really the thread is not about the house impeaching Donald trump it’s about the removal. But if you you want I can site multiple videos of trumpers being on the nose. Argggh I’m so angry that the law was upheld my trigger finger is itching.
     
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    We were told his election would lead to world wide, recession.
     
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    I think it will create global prosperity, since Trump is working to end the greatest transfer of wealth from the American middle class to the world in history. It will be business as it used to be. The beltway will go back to amassing huge amounts of wealth by outsourcing US jobs. We will go back to defending others' borders and stop the headway we've made to slow the invasion across our border. The message the House sent was clear. We're spending billions building border walls and fences to protect Israel and Jordan and a token few bucks to protect Americans. It will be a battle for a day when the House is once again controlled by American patriots.
     
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    Thanks for the morning laugh, always welcome. Ever since the impeachment process began, around December 10, the DJIA, NASDAQ, and S&P500 have been up, up and away. It's pretty obvious the markets basically favor dumping the orange god, or just don't care. Trump is a barnacle on the butt of global order and the sooner he's gone the better as far as the rest of the world is concerned.
     
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    Your analysis is hilarious.

    The markets hate uncertainty, and the concept of any president possibly being removed would predictably send the markets into a tailspin. The only rational explanation for the surging markets during impeachment hearings is that the market knows that this impeachment is fake/ going absolutely nowhere.
     
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    Not unless Pence increased taxes.


    To ensure the economy keeps moving forward we should reduce regulations taxes and spending.
     
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    When did the impeachment process start?
    House Resolutions

    tinyurl.com/r8mk2zl 115-438 07/12/2017

    tinyurl.com/rtedztk 115-621 11/15/2017

    tinyurl.com/t3qt2k9 115-646 12/06/2017

    tinyurl.com/ukvqgha 115-705 01/19/2018

    tinyurl.com/ybgz9tgu 116-13 01/03/2019

    tinyurl.com/vj6hvht 116-257 03/27/2019

    tinyurl.com/v2eydru 116-498 07/17/2019

    tinyurl.com/qtu9crh 116-755 12/10/2019

    The world order, the US offering free access to our markets against obstacles to markets around the world ,,, all the while the US taxpayer funding defense of our allies, defending them against the Oil & Gas exporter they are enriching ,,, is changing. Without Trump, it will reverse and jobs will head out across the sea once again. Of course the world hates Trump. The party's over.
     
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    How would all of that keep the economy "moving forward"? Be specific.
     
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    Yet, without your political and economic wisdom, the United States has become the world's remaining superpower. America has more powerful allies than the rest of the world combined. America has the largest economy the world has ever seen. America has a powerful military devoted to the proposition of freedom and democracy around the globe. A majority American people place great value on America's moral leadership in the world. The world looks to the United States as undisputed leader and relies on our leadership to provide direction.

    With great power comes great responsibility.
     
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    mitchscove Well-Known Member Donor

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    So, you're saying that it was Obama's leadership that allowed China build a militarized Island in international waters? When Russia rolled into Ukraine and annexed Crimea, it was a product of Obama's leadership? Putting Iran on the path to a nuclear weapon and giving them the cash to buy Russian nuke technology and fund terrorism was a sign of Obama's leadership?

    BTW. How did China end up with a 40 year lease and control of Long Beach, a huge high tech container port? How did China gain control of Henniges technology developed for the F-35. How did that technology end up in their J-20 Stealth Fighter? Our 'leadership' in Climate Change was another factor that allowed China to crush our middle class.

    We haven't been providing guidance. We've been giving the way the farm.
     
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    imo, no. What Trump has put in place will still support prosperity, jobs, trade, markets, and business.

    What will hurt is if and when Trump policies are reversed. imo it will be not be a rapid decline, at least at first.

    You can't do much tax revolt if you work for an employer, and illegal aliens off the books don't pay taxes to revolt about.

    If Trump is elected to a second term, very, very likely, more improvement is in store for the USA.
     
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  23. Sanskrit

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    I got some of the irony in your post. But do you really believe that the unprecedented removal of a U.S. President (any President) would create global prosperity? The only reason markets have not taken this more seriously is that it is not in fact serious. IMO, if it ever had a scintilla of a chance of becoming serious, markets would crash.
     
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    Exactly, markets would correct severely in a serious impeachment, even if my broader claim about outright collapse is wrong, especially after a relatively long bull trend. The thing I'm guessing on is what % of the population it takes believing that its central government is no longer legitimate enough to pay taxes would bring about REAL chaos? Would it be as little as 5%? or would it take 15-20%? More? Less?

    In this, historical analysis would be useful. For example, under British rule, what percentage of the colonists were aggressive revolutionaries versus folks who just got carried along by their fervor? What % in France were the movers of there? What % were the hard core Bolsheviks versus the merely receptive mass?I imagine someone has done a historical analysis of what critical mass is required to destabilize a government. I don't know these things, so my OP is speculation.

    I have a copy of a Malcolm Gladwell book "The Tipping Point." Never read it because it is fluffy, but will scan it later and see if anything in there is worth considering.
     
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    The entire world would breathe a sigh of relief, like they had just expelled a large amount of gas.
     

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