Would Elon Musk make a good President?

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Would Elon Musk make a good President?

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  1. Overitall

    Overitall Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You might run into the problem of separation of powers if you have to have the cooperation of Congress concerning non cabinet positions. Or have I misunderstood your point?
     
  2. JohnHamilton

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    My point is that a large numbers of these people are on Civil Service and can't be fired or replaced with a change in administration or party. Yet Congress has turned over so much power to them to write regulations that they have become a de-facto, unelected Congress. That's was one of Trump's objectives - to cut down on regulations that hamstring businesses and the economy.
     
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    Overitall Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Good point. I believe that needs to be changed and it would take legislation to do so. I thought this was addressed, by Congress, already.
     
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  4. Nonnie

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    I voted no because I just feel on general, he wouldn't cut the mustard.

    Plus, the Dems would dislike him based on character and knowing he's a business man, he'll get results, that'll sure annoy them. To a Leftwinger, how nice someone is is far more important than economic results, as the world already witnessed.
     
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  5. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'll call you out. That is a lie. Show where Trump said he would "terminate" the Constitution.
     
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  6. BuckyBadger

    BuckyBadger Well-Known Member

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    I agree, it is a lie. Just don't expect a decent rebuttal.
     
  7. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Dont tell me he didn't say what he said, and don't tell say "oh, he didn't mean to terminate the whole thing, only parts of it". I stand by what I said, - put Trump in and he'll terminate all parts of the Constitution he finds inconvenient (which is same as terminating the whole thing, and in this case it would be the "natural born" clause if he wanted to install Musk as president.

    “A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution” - Donald J Trump

    The mind of a Trump apologist is a mysterious place, - it will defend and justify anything that comes out of his leaders mouth no matter how outrageous.
     
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  8. James California

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    ~ Elon "The Mighty" Musk would make an honest president – so that means he would be resisted by both parties.
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  9. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I wish I knew that, but I don't have any way of know it, and neither does anyone else.
     
  10. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lincoln temporarily suspended the Constitution during the Civil War. t's a type of Martial law. We did come close but you make it sound like he had contempt for the Constitution.......as Joe Biden does by not protecting our borders. That, my friend is contempt.
     
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    I didn't say anything about Lincoln and civil war, or 'contempt'. Trump said he wanted to terminate the constitution which is something no president has ever said before, not even Lincoln during the Civil War. Feel free to justify your leaders comments though. Its a free country.
     
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    And you are free to express what Presidential candidate possibility would "love" our Constitution. I would pick Ron DeSantis. Elon was born in South Africa so he could not be a candidate. Democrats do not have any (except possibly Manchin who is not a possibility)
     
  13. JohnHamilton

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    Joe Manchin might be toast in West Virginia. He caved when it really counted and people will not forget that. If he had any guts, he'd switch parties and cost the Democrats their new majority in the Senate. Manchin doesn't owe the Democrat Party anything after they double crossed him.
     
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    I can barely stand seeing his face on Twitter
     
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    ~ Elon can get an authentic U.S. birth certificate — just like $aint Obama did. animated-smileys-thinking-17.gif
     
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    I have to say no strictly based on the fact that he's not legally eligible. If he were eligible, I don't think he'd be as bad as Trump.
     
  17. yardmeat

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    Oh, God, I forgot there were actually people who fell for that bull ****.
     
  18. Patricio Da Silva

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    He stated

    "“Do you throw the Presidential Election Results of 2020 OUT and declare the RIGHTFUL WINNER, or do you have a NEW ELECTION? A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution"

    A few things:

    Diagram the sentence to the essential part pertaining to the constitution, and we are left with:


    ....termination of those rules, regulations, articles found in the constitution.


    1. No evidence of 'massive fraud' was ever established in any of the 64 lawsuits filed on his behalf, many were shot down for both standing and evidence lacking merit.

    2. Given #1, the statement reflects someone wholly unfit for the office, given the epic irresponsibility and incredible ignorance of the statement.

    3. Termination of 'rules, regulations, articles, found in the constitution' is vague, and even if he expressed which rules, regulations, articles to be terminated, it cannot be done without terminating the entire constitution, which is why many are saying what they are saying (it's not an unreasonable conclusion). The Constitution can be amended, but that is highly unlikely and doesn't appear to be what Trump was suggesting. If it was what he was suggesting, his wording is so sloppy as to reveal a man wholly unfit for the office of the presidency or any office of public trust, given that the primary oath a president must uphold is to uphold the constitution, not in part, but in full.
     
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    Given his many attempts encouraging violence, given his attempt to subvert the election, given his ignoring the plethora of advice from competent persons telling him that claims of 'massive election fraud' were false, given his dereliction where he failed to stop the attack until 3 hours had passed, given his directing the secret service to take down the metal detectors at the ellipse which would have allowed armed insurrectionists to breach the event and continue to march to the capitol, given his shakedown of Zelensky for personal gain, given his em masse defying lawful congressional subpoenas by himself and directing his staff for same, given his failure to acknowledge Russian interference in the election, given his public encouragement of Russia to commit cyber espionage against Hillary Clinton, given his many acts which bely a man wholly unfit for office, it is not unreasonable to conclude he has no respect for the constitution
    No president in history has 'secured the borders'. Securing them is impossible. We can improve security, but that is about it, noting that 40% of undocumented persons living in America are visa overstays, so the tightest border security cannot stop illegals. Illegal immigration, like crime, in general, cannot be stopped, all that can be done is that we can put a dent in it. So, impeaching Biden for this is DOA, for this very fact.
     
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  21. BuckyBadger

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    In other words, Trump never said that. (Never said he would terminate The Constitution)
    See post #46, your previous posts confirm we are correct. Now get back on topic. This is about Elon Musk.
     
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  22. Patricio Da Silva

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    he did say that, effectively.

    Reread my post, and don't change what I wrote.
     
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    No, Just No.....
     
  24. Patricio Da Silva

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    Probably not.
     
  25. Pro_Line_FL

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    How the heck can you defend him saying such bull-crap. His comments couldn't possibly get any more un-american.
     

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