"Would Jesus OK same-sex marriage?"

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  1. JOJO50

    JOJO50 New Member

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    sad, this is exactly what satan wants humans to think. If God ,(Jehovah ), had originally put in man to fall in love with man, (meaning mankind). He wouldn't come back and said it was an ABOMINATION, (Levi.20:13-If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them). And ( Rom.1:26,27- For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet).

    And ANY one who claim to be a minister, yet teach against God's words. Isn't sent by Jesus or his Father but by satan ,(2Cor. 11:13-15 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works), even if they refuse to believe they are. And ANY word outside Jehovah's commandments are STILL his words he gave to his faithful servants of old to write down, (for our time), 2Pet. 1:20,21 ,1Thess.2:13 and 2Tim.3:16 -All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness. Also, Rom.15:4- For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.

    So what man wants to see as right, can lead to ones destruction. As for Jesus first people need to get it right, he didn't hang with ANY who refuse to follow him and worship his Father Jehovah. He witness!... to them concerning his Father, his Father's kingdom ,and how they could save their lives. He NOT having a wife as someone said, didn't mean he was gay. ANY who knew God's words, would have known He was sent for himself, but for humans. He wasn't looking for a wife, and he didn't hang with 12 men because he and them were gay. Also Jesus was about his Father's WILL.

    And he agreed with EVERYTHING his Father believed. He KNEW ALL of his Fathers plans concerning human, and he HELPED created humans. So he also didn't believe in homosexuality. Jesus and his Father loves ALL human, NOT what they considered, their wicked actions. So if one refuse to change ANY ways which is against God, they WILL be destroyed. But it doesn't just go towards those who practice that action. Because those who continue to have sex out of marriage or an adulterer will also be destroyed, along with others who just refuse to follow Jesus and worship Jehovah God. peace :smile:
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you not understand the difference between an unmarried virgin who is not "betrothed" and one who is ?
     
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    Yeah....women were property....children as young as 7 to 9 were sold to men as WIVES....and a GOAT was considered a good trade for a girl if you were a Father with too many daughters and not many sons.

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    Father?

    Please explain why a GOD would have sexual gender?

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  4. DivineComedy

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    Yes I fully understand. The woman who is not engaged who has consensual sex is then married.

    The logic of verse 26 does not change and applies to both women, the virgin who is not betrothed and the betrothed.

    The perpetrator might not know the betrothal status of the female War Booty, and obviously not care, they are simply female captives, and the Satanic men of MoHamMad would have to be killed for their coitus interuptus:

    "(3) Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: We got female captives in the war booty and we used to do coitus interruptus with them. So we asked Allah's Apostle about it and he said, "Do you really do that?" repeating the question thrice, "There is no soul that is destined to exist but will come into existence, till the Day of Resurrection." (Book #62, Hadith #137)"

    The female captives would then have committed no sin, as it was the false prophet that the criminal Obamanation defended that would have to be killed.

    That is why Jews are not allowed in Saudi Arabia, and why those Moslems and the Obamanation (Democrats) are enemies of freedom of speech as was demonstrated when Obama and Clinton violated their oaths of office in the Benghazi affair knowing that is what the enemy wanted:

    "[9.32] They desire to put out the light of Allah with their mouths, and Allah will not consent save to perfect His light, though the unbelievers are averse."

    How many married women or engaged women, who are raped, feel their husband or betrothed blames them? That verse 26 just establishes zero guilt.

    The logic of verse 26, the morality of it, did not change with the status of betrothal. And there is no need to repeat the logic used just a few verses away. We are not dealing with an illiterate follower of Shaitan (the morning star Lucifer) who reveals a toilet roll of illogic; the Jews could actually read, but MoHamMad could not.

    The logic of verse 26 does not change simply because the followers of Shaitan’s Prophet MoHamMad cannot at a distance tell the difference between a betrothed female and a virgin war booty. Both females are innocent regardless of the Obamanation’s condemnation of this fully legal freedom of speech:

    “[Elder Woman] Source: LYBIO.net
    My age has exceeded 120 years and in all my young life ‘I haven’t seen such a murderous thug as Muhammad’. He kills men, captures women and children, robs the caravans, breaches agreements and treaties. He sells the children as slaves after he and his men have used them. And what’s more, he does this all in the name of God. What God is this? That he’s such an oppressor and so unfair to the people.” http://lybio.net/tag/innocence-of-muslims-muhammad-movie-transcription/

    “Let me state very clearly that the United States has absolutely nothing to do with this video. We absolutely reject its contents.” (Clinton) http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/...-pakistan-ad-denouncing-anti-muslim-film?lite

    “‘We’re going to have that person arrested and prosecuted that did the video,’ said Hillary Clinton.”
    http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/331806/incredible-shrinking-president-mark-steyn

    “If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same; or”
    http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/241

    "’[T]he fact that society may find speech offensive is not a sufficient reason for suppressing it. Indeed, if it is the speaker's opinion that gives offense, that consequence is a reason for according it constitutional protection. [485 U.S. 46, 56] For it is a central tenet of the First Amendment that the government must remain neutral in the marketplace of ideas.’ Id., at 745-746.” http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=485&invol=46

    Since the video in question was legal speech, and “we absolutely reject its contents” was not legal statecraft, therefore, Obama and Clinton violated their oaths of office, consequently, their actions must be impeached.

    I know that the followers of the Obamanation and Shaitan have a problem with logic, so please take the time to carefully look at the logic flow, not just a single verse which may be misrepresented in an International version, and because of bias simply want to be true due to your blind hatred.

    Please understand the seriousness of your lack of impeachment:

    "The United States deplores any intentional effort to denigrate the religious beliefs of [those that believe virgins who are raped must marry their rapists]." (Clinton)
     
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    DivineComedy Well-Known Member

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    That is why MoHamMad's Satanic god revealed it and the Obamanation (Democrats) reject all efforts at denigrating it.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I agree with mostly everything you have stated. I think you misread or at least misunderstood the context of my post.
     
  7. JOJO50

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    I can ONLY go by his words, NOT my own. But man ,(Human), makes the babies why women carries them. That would make that man the Father of that child. Jehovah God ,(Exo. 6:3 and Psa. 93:18), created the ALL creatures, animals, Angels and humans. This is what make him ALL of our Fathers, even if MANY refuse to acknowledge him. Jesus who he sent to save out lives acknowledge him as his Father ,(Matt.8:19-Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also).

    And his Father is the same as ours ,(John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God). There are certain questions NONE of us can answers. If Jehovah God felt we NEEDED to know, just like he felt we needed to KNOW he sent a son in our behalf, He would have told us. I don't know why he refer to ALL Heavenly being males , but he did. This is why he made the first human, a man. As for “sexual” God didn't created ANY Heavenly being with sexual organs. Because in Heaven there were no need to procreate. Humans needed it to create other humans ,(Gen. 1:28). peace :smile:
     
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    Some of the translations of your posts are as bad as some Bible translations, but nobody is perfect, contrary to the idiot Obamanation Islam is in the eye of the beholder, just like everything, like watching two guys kiss on TV, it is like watching a video of snails fracking:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHDl-Zv-0l0

    You could read Aristotle’s household management http://classics.mit.edu/Aristotle/politics.1.one.html

    “In the first place there must be a union of those who cannot exist without each other; namely, of male and female, that the race may continue (and this is a union which is formed, not of deliberate purpose, but because, in common with other animals and with plants, mankind have a natural desire to leave behind them an image of themselves), and of natural ruler and subject, that both may be preserved.”

    Did he steal that from the OT or make it up on his own? Accepting such marriage of two snails fracking is not easy. Best to stick with pictures of chicks kissing, it reminds me of going down to the USS Norton Sound during Raygun to try and convert some Lesbeans to the “natural” Greek method of male and female.
     
  9. Arphen

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    If Jesus really wanted to clarify the perfect family for Jews and clarify what the husband and wife to God, He would not slow to say that a man can take for himself and another man, so also with women, but Jesus said that man leave his father and mother (not the father and the father and mother and mother, Hebrew very well explains that specifically states and whether I will bring asexual meaning mother or father, so also the Greek language is much broader concept opens many languages ​​and for whom were written by the Old and New Testaments), and shall cleave to his wife and the two shall become one flesh, and not joined to another man. In the beginning God created man and woman and said to them - Be fruitful and multiply (Genesis 1:28), God has not given the ability to reproduce a male and male, and so he gave no such ability woman with another woman, if he blessed the marriage between a man and men, He would have given them the ability to have children without a female at all, is there anything too hard for God?
     
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    The world is over populated right now with too much of that be fruitful. In Cousteau’s “Waters of Sorrow” they interviewed this one woman who had fifteen children, and was pregnant, the implication is that is why the waters were devoid of life. In nature frogs can change sex due to environment. The Homos are not breeders, just prompted to be promiscuous and spread deadly plagues by lack of ties that bind. If God is set in Stone and there can be no answer to overpopulation except “Be fruitful and multiply” all we wind up with is Waters of Sorrow.

    Jesus did not clarify because of the Holy Spirit, there is no final prophet like in the bastard creed of Islam, God’s mind is not fixed.
     
  11. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    According to the Bible when man ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil he became like God and knows the difference between good and evil. Therefore it doesn't matter what Jesus thinks about same sex marriage because man is fully capable of thinking about that for himself. If a person thinks that SSM is evil then it's evil; if a person thinks that it's good then it's good. Even God changed his mind about some things so it's not like there's just one acceptable answer for all time.
     

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