Would Mitt Romney as President in 2016 inspire Iran to scrap nuclear weapon plans?

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  1. Junkieturtle

    Junkieturtle Well-Known Member Donor

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    I'm not sure why they would be afraid of one president but not a different president. Romney isn't going to be able to do anything Obama can't. They can both saber rattle but both are smart enough to realize that outright war with Iran is a bad idea for the region, for the world, and mostly for us. Not that we couldn't win the straight up military battle part, but what do we do afterwards after we've destabilized the region and sent Russia and China into a tizzy? We sit back and reflect on the damage we've wrought, the chaos we've caused for the world and ourselves, and then we spend another 15 years trying to clean up after a war crazy president.
     
  2. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I may be wrong….. but I believe that Israel would probably feel more free to act…… if a Republican such as Mitt was President?!

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    Not really………….. losing by ten percentage points is a lot different than losing by two……. percent of voters!
     
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    The Obama is trying to give a path to nukes to the people that wanna wipe Israel (the little Satan) off the map. He, being a total race baiting Jew hater, would love to see this. He wouldn't mind a few US city's getting nuked either. They are just populated with evil, racist, greedy, white people and wouldn't be missed by him.
     
  4. Junkieturtle

    Junkieturtle Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yes that's a fair point, I'd agree that is a definite possibility.
     
  5. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Junkieturtle….. back in 1980 or so I wrote the SAT in order to apply to an American college…. and I was told that my IQ was 118. That is pretty low for somebody who comments on such complicated subjects as I do………


    I am worried that I may have went way too far over here in this discussion….. and I would be relieved if you and other posters here would criticize me mercilessly for whatever flaws you think are in these theories…… My poor little 118 processor has been revving……. like my old Husqvarna powersaw or my 2008 Honda Civic…… for these past seven years as I got more and more into these discussion forums????!

    http://www.politicalforum.com/canad...ush-my-two-favourite-american-presidents.html
    Presidents Reagan and President George W. Bush, my two favourite American Presidents.
     
  6. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wow!

    I am not on the same page as you are but….. I have to admit that President Obama is much further left politically than the average American or Canadian.

    At least…….. his older brother Malik is attempting to do something that has the potential to make the world somewhat safer?! (Over the long term anyway)?!

    http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...obama-one-worlds-most-courageous-muslims.html
    Is Malik Obama one of the worlds' most courageous Muslims?
    In my opinion.....YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!


    endtimeheadlines.org/temple-mount/obamas-brother-in-support-of-third-temple-built-in-jerusalem/
     
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    I have that effect on people ;)

    Hating on "rich white people" (code for "Jews" like "thug" is code for "black people") is quite popular.

    He is a Gazi (global socialist). The democrat party has been taken over by Gazi's and there goal is global wealth redistribution. They seek to punish the wealthy and equally share the misery of existence to everyone equally.

    Sounds to me like just another place for terrorist to hide. A bace where they can tie bombs onto retarded people and send them off into busses and shopping malls
     
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    course bush lost the popular vote.... and still was President
     
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    When you actually come up with a credible source to demonstrate that he built a workable nuclear bomb it will be possible to take this all seriously. And any country can build a nuclear weapon from a technical standpoint. The issue is availability of enriched uranium and a delivery system.

    And no country or scientist has been able to build a working fusion reactor.
     
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    Thanks to the American electorate, Willard is not president (despite that "Landslide!" about which crackpots deluded themselves) and anyone can fantasize about anyone who is not president being president.

    The propagandistic fear-mongering about a nuclear weapons programme in Iran is a credible as the Bushies' scare tactics about wmd stockpiles in Iraq.

    Yes, if the Big Bibi were running US foreign policy as some with a foreign allegiance might wish, we'd see US blood and treasure now being copiously squandered in Iran as it was in Iraq.

    He isn't.

    It isn't.
     
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    The part of the public furor over Iran's imaginary nuclear weapons program that I find hilarious is the tacit conspiracy to never mention that Isreal has already got nukes so the proliferation of nuclear weapons into the area has already occurred.
     
  12. DennisTate

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    But………. the last leader of Iran made it pretty clear that he………. felt led by Allah/ The G-d of Abraham…… to usher in the Age of Mahdi/ the 12 Imam…… through an attack on Israel.

    The present leaders of Iran were taught and influenced by him……….

    Was Mr. Yassar Arafat able to influence the present generation of leaders in the Palestinian Authority? Yes!




    Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2012/09/ahmadinejads-end-times-address-to-u-n/#TLps57UEU7zUGdIV.99
     
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    Isn't it obvious!

    High level officials in America agree with that famous line uttered by Jack Nicholson in "A Few Good Men."

    They do not believe that we can handle the truth………… and quite frankly…… they could well be right!

    What Saddam really had in the past….. and what Iran has already developed or could perhaps develop….. is above yours….. and my …. security clearance level and pay scale.
     
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    President Obama's brother is also pretty far left in some ways……. but he is not the first major Islamic official to state that the rebuilding of the Jerusalem Third Temple actually fits with an accurate understanding of the Islamic scriptures regarding what must happen in the "Last Hour."

    About a decade ago Mr. Harun Yahya/ Adnan Oktar of Turkey….. made very similar assertions.

    I do believe that President Obama's older brother is sincere in feeling that the fulfillment of Ezekiel chapters 40 - 48 do fit with what the Koran states that the Jewish people must do in the Islamic latter days.

    http://www.templemount.org/quranland.html
     
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    What Saddam had in the past has been established beyond any doubt. Nada, nada, nada. And if Iran has actually developed any nuclear weapon it would be hard to understand why neither the US or Isreal has any evidence.
     
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    Irrelevant to the discussion of nuclear weapon development in the Middle East.
     
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    Bibi is an ill-tempered cry baby. He became hysterical hyping the fraudulent pretexts that led to Bush's Iraq fiasco, and has been whining about Iran's imminent acquisition of naughty bits for decades. He needs a spanking to impress upon him that he does not get to run US foreign policy and decide where the US squanders its blood and money, even if there are some legislators in America that kowtow to him.

    If he wants to propose a nuclear-weapons-free Middle East, go for it!
     
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    On the other hand….. within fifty years our children and grandchildren may have data that indicates that P. M. Netanyahu may have saved the lives of tens of thousands of Americans…….. because at that time we may know far more about what else was going on behind the scenes.

    If…….. Saddam had gotten all that he wanted……. in regards to obtaining nuclear weapons…………. the possibility of Saddam giving those devices to Palestinian terrorists was very real……. those terrorists might have decided to hit New York rather than Tel Aviv????!
     
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    Yes….. and although I do like Mr. Al Gore…… I do tend to think…….Gracias a Dios!

    http://www.politicalforum.com/humor...2000-election-but-negates-global-dimming.html
    In alternate time line Mr. Gore wins the 2000 election but negates Global Dimming....

    I personally loved the film "An Inconvenient Truth." I have watched it four or five times at least. It played a huge role in my deciding to join a political party that takes climate change very seriously.

    Largely due to his film I actually put in two submissions for The Virgin Earth Challenge.

    I do have one criticism for his film though..... the diplomacy quotient was extremely low and America is more divided than ever partly because of the flavor of his film.

    ……
    ….In theory....... Mr. Gore's policy could have ended up greatly decreasing the Global Dimming Effect..... at the same time that it might do little to reduce a general Global Warming trend.... which could lead to rapid warming.....and of course increased cracking and sliding on the land based Greenland Ice Pack.... the world's glaciers and the outer regions of Antarctica......

    Prime Minister Stephen Harper and President Bush may have deliberately allowed somewhat bad policy to continue...… because they probably had been told that the factors that increase Global Dimming..... do tend to mask Global Warming.... .which could mean within five decades we may know that that they may have had a basically good idea..... in comparison to worst possible alternative
    .....??????!!!

    http://www.baproducts.com/chetmap.htm

    Dr Chet Snow's Earth Change Map

     
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    Those details are only irrelevant to somebody who is so blinded by their love for their own political ideology and world view…….. that they do not want to look at any evidence that interferes with their beliefs?!

    I am tempted to start a poll to see what percentage of posters here agree with you though?!

    There are some types of evidence……… that may not be accepted to be presented in court cases……. that 70% of us would admit…… have the potential to alter the way that we view that case!
     
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    If ... if ... if ....

    Speculative, self-serving scenarios are without limit.

    We know what has happened.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We know a little bit about what has happened…………. only a little bit……… we are only human and lots of things have happened behind the scenes that when we do know about it……… our minds will be boggled.

    Have you watched the TV series "Covert Affairs?"

    AboveAlpha says that it isn't very realistic…… but……. it does have the power to make us a little bit thankful that some awfully intelligent and dedicated people have been trying their best to protect little baby sheep and goats like you and I!
     
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    We know that the Iraq invasion was contrived via fraudulent intel. It was an extremely costly and bloody nation-building fiasco. A large majority of Americans have come to know enough to acknowledge it was a mistake, as some understood all along.

    No. I have no reason to believe that fiction writers have any special insights into reality.
     
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    Might be better if you tried to explain the relevance instead of trying to divert to criticizing ideologies you clearly don't comprehend. But then of course you can't explain why your rather lame treatise on Religeon is relevant to a discussion of nuclear weapons in the Middle East.
     
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    If……… Richard Dawkins Ph. D. is correct that an alien life form may have evolved thousands or even millions of years before homo sapiens became technologically advanced…….. and if…… aliens may perhaps have played a role in human evolution or in our history……. then there is a possible connection between the UFO phenomena with religion. As a matter of fact The Book of Enoch that was a part of the Christian canon for five centuries may well be talking about a species of alien when they use the term Watcher or son of G-d.

    If…….. intelligent aliens do have UFO technology….. then the Middle East crisis begins to look at least a little bit more hopeful.

    It is interesting that many articles online talk about large generators being brought to the TEmple Mount from Jordan on January 25, 26, 2011 and one of the largest UFO sightings was over the TEmple Mount on January 28, 2011. This is at the minimum rather interesting……….. but it even has the potential to inspire a segment of the population to become less aggressive……..because no intelligent person would advocate for our armies to take on an advanced alien species that has devices that make our most high tech weapons look like spears and clubs.
     

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