Would ot be better to do it ourselves ?

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What should joe do

  1. Screw russia

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    33.3%
  2. Screw the Saudis

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    16.7%
  3. Go back to Trumps policy's

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    50.0%
  4. Get ready to take a loan out to fill your tank

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  5. Its Trumps fault

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    16.7%
  6. Joe will do what his handlers tell him

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    50.0%
  7. I dont know

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  1. The annoying thing

    The annoying thing Well-Known Member

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    Biden and advisors are planning a trip to try and fix relations between him and the Saudis so they will sell us more oil after Russia imports were doubled under biden and we became dependent on others oil again.
    We were pumping all we needed under trump and it was affordable.
    Would it be better to do that again or be dependent on others.
    Biden knows if he stops buying his buddys Putin oil that oil prices will go out of sight fast .
     
  2. Seth Bullock

    Seth Bullock Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The U.S. should produce all the energy it needs without imports from Russia or the middle east. Common sense.
     
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    The annoying thing Well-Known Member

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    You always were a straight shooter seth. And I liked the steel plate
     
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    But but but. Global warming or climate change or whatever the buzz word. Plus is will take 5 years.
     
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    Embrace electric. Common sense . Elon Musk did and look where he's at.
     
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  6. Seth Bullock

    Seth Bullock Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're a vet?
     
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    Best path for that would have been more investment in renewable energy. Can we finally get the fringe right to sign on now? Common sense.
     
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    We'll need more than just embracing electric cars. That's part of it, but not sufficient.
     
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    Seth Bullock Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Fine. Invest. Build the infrastructure. You want all electric cars? Then you've got a GIGANTIC infrastructure project that must be completed first to generate enough electricity. That is going to take time and a lot of money. Meanwhile, let's be energy independent. It is plain stupid to be relying on other countries. Stupid.
     
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    All you are doing is proposing the kick-the-can-down-the-road "strategy" that has gotten us to exactly where we are now. When do we finally start ACTUALLY building the infrastructure that we need for ACTUAL energy independence? The petroleum industry and it's lobbyists are doing nothing but pushing that back. Stupid. So when do we FINALLY kick them to the curb and start the real work?
     
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    We don't kick them to the curb. Why? Because oil does a lot more than fuel cars. We'll always use it.

    I'm not kicking the can down the road, I'm saying build the infrastructure first, so there will be a smooth transition from one to the other.

    When gas goes to $7/gallon, who gets hurt? Who? The answer is the poor and lower middle class. And who is hurting them? Democrats are. That's who.
     
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    We'll probably always use it in some capacity. Will it be our primary fuel source in the future? Probably not . . . especially not if we have any ambitions for energy independence. I'm sorry, but this is the same story we hear every year from those who pretend to care about energy independence while enforcing policies that only guarantee further dependence. Who is delaying energy independence as much as possible? The GOP, that's who.
     
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    We've been warned for 50 years that oil was a finite resource - every damn time oil spikes, the dudes who drive trucks that get 15 miles per gallon start
    crabbing about the cost of gas. Well, duh. We export about 3.3 million barrels of oil each day - the profits of which go to oil companies. Talk to them.
     
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    We've been warned of this . . . by our own military. Repeatedly.
     
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    How in the cornbread hell do you get that? You either have a short memory or you slept through the last boom and all the jobs it generated and lowered the price of gasoline.
     
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    That's cute. Were you under the mistaken impression you had addressed anything I had said?
     
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    What good would the Saudis selling us more oil do? The price of oil is set by the international market. Not strict availability for one particular nation.
     
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    Ask Biden its his plan. Just guessing off hand he wants to quit importing Russian oil so it'llOOn him and figures heOn him and figures he hasOn him and figures he has ton him and figures he has to replace it so gas here dont hit record levels On him and figures he has to replace it.
    O the price of gas can be manipulated by a president depending on his policys
     
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    We all know what Biden wants. He wants above all to avoid increasing U.S. oil production because it will piss off the progressive idiots in the Democratic Party.
     
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