Would someone mind explaining this Trump position?

“We must immediately suspend immigration from any nation that has been compromised by terrorism until such time as proven vetting mechanisms have been put in place,” Trump said during his address at the Quicken Loans Arena. “We don’t want them in our country.”
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So, which countries are those? Logically, I'd assume Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc..

But what about Belgium? Wasn't the mastermind behind the Paris attack a Belgian national? Some others involved from France & Brussels? The Nice attacker of Tunisian origin? Assuming the word "compromised" is being used correctly here, I don't believe those countries qualify... and if that's the case, how would we expect Mr. Trump's strategy to be effective?

 

The list you're looking for was published recently, possibly the New York Times. It's more than 40 countries including many of the EU countries such as Spain, France, the UK and Germany. It also includes many Asian countries such as China and India. By the way the second part of his first sentence is a lie as immigrants and refugees to the US are thoroughly vetted now.

 

Are you trying to say that if something isn't 100% effective then it isn't worth doing ? The source of Islamic Radicalism is the Middle East. To whatever extent the danger has emigrated to Europe, it is much smaller numbers than in the Middle East. If you wanted to take it one step further you could also ban people with dual citizenship where one of their 2 citizenships is from a banned country. Such a move would be entirely reasonable within the context of this proposal.

 

Only if you want to make less capital with such a social plan.

 

Then we need to halt immigration from those countries for the time being as well.

I also reject the notion that we "need" more immigration right now-we are already taking in over 1 million a year, more than any place on earth.

Other countries regulate immigration far more than we do-we need to get more selective generally, and not coming from a terrorist crap hole is a start.

 

I think Trump includes European countries that have terrorist activity. He did mention France.

Trump: Maybe Ban French Immigration

 

Immigration Law has been changed, altered or halted altogether many times in the US, with one basic reason and that was to allow time for assimilation. This site is the best I can find, to learn a few things, but one thing for sure is the increased totals, in the past 20 years. I'd suggest, illegal's both on foot and over staying one of 50 VISA's has dramatically increased over the past 8 years.

http://www.fairus.org/facts/us_laws

 

Correct. Halting immigration has always been an option. It would clearly be appropriate now.

 

He could just suspend all immigration altogether, that would prevent them from sneaking in but that movie isn't gonna happen.

Or suspend immigration from western European nations, since the danger has apparently gone there. Of course, there's the possibility that they'll just try to sneak through eastern European countries.

 

If you think "having terrorists somewhere within," as most countries do, is the same as "compromised by terrorism," in the general sense, as "countries with significant jihadi presence and acceptance," then I pity you. Eh, not really, I don't pity you, just those around you.

 

Western European countries are becoming a danger, so I have no problem halting immigration from those countries if they have significant terrorist activity.

 

What about ones who've experienced very few or no incidents at all?

 

You might add some other countries: Germany and the United States itself, for example. However, if you're trying to make sense out of anything that Trump says, I believe you're trying to accomplish the impossible.

 

Which ones do you have in mind?

 

Andorra? Luxembourg? Portugal? Switzerland?

 

OK....so no terrorist issues, no problem.

 

What part of vetting is confusing you?

 

Syrian refugee kills woman with meat cleaver near Stuttgart, Germany.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...kills-woman-with-machete-in-southern-germany/

 

The New York Times looks at Trump's idea. Even the US wouldn't make the list of countries where immigrants would be allowed from since it's had terrorist attacks.

 

You act as if immigration to America is a world wide right. In fact, we should halt all immigration for a few decades and allow the millions who are here assimilate.

 

Sure. He’s trying to win an election and a long established tool for winning elections is to identify some external threat to the nation and present yourself as standing up against it. The trick is not to be too specific about the nature of the threat or the nature of the solution so you don’t tie yourself down to any specific policy if you are successfully elected. Your confusion on his policy is because he’s being deliberately non-specific and inconsistent about it.

 

Why not extend that further and halt all visitors as any visitor could still carry out a terrorist attack?

 

Except he has been pretty clear about the nature of the threat and what to do about it.

Did anyone see that the DNC is building an 8 foot fence around it's convention? Pretty funny if you ask me.

 

That would be counter productive. Visitors would not have time to organize an attack.

 

That visitor could buy a gun and ammo on black market for $1000 and go on a shooting rampage within a day of arriving