Would Trump have won without Russia's help?

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Would Trump have won without Russia's help?

  1. Yes, because Russia didn't do anything.

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  2. No, because of all those things Russia did. Clinton fans were totally worried

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  1. TheGreatSatan

    TheGreatSatan Banned

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    People who worship and defend bill Clinton sound like total tools when they try to paint trump as a womanizer. Has trump flashed his junk like a hobo in SF? Liberals probably think its normal so they don't hold Clinton to account. I wouldn't doubt if many of them go around doing similar stuff in their daily lives. A lot of leftist are just as vile, decietful, and corrupt as the establishment politicians they worship.
     
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    I really don't. By the time election day rolled around, I think the American people were bored to tears with email scandals, whether it was Hillary's private server, or Wiki's releases of DNC emails. That stuff mattered to the media and "political Washington", but not to average people. Trump won because he won a few states in the Rust Belt, and those folks' concern was jobs, not emails. It was jobs. That's what put Trump over the top. Not emails.
     
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    Q: Do you have a relationship with Vladimir Putin? A conversational relationship, or anything that you feel you have sway or influence over his government?

    TRUMP: I do have a relationship, and I can tell you that he's very interested in what we're doing here today.
     
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    Don't hear Trump talking about this much today, do we?
     
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    Hillary won the popular vote because of uneducated high school dropouts who can't compete in the private sector and need free stuff paid for by the deplorables.
     
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    The real question is could Trump have won without John Podesta and Hilary Clinton's ties to Russia?
     
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    Taken out of context.

    It was Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and a few neo-cons who started Cold War ll.


    Since November 9th, 2016 the Democrat party had a complete meltdown. sedition on the streets, therapy, Play Dough and now complete obstructionist.

    Who to blame ????

    Lets go with the Russians. "THE RUSSIANS ARE COMING...THE RUSSIANS ARE COMING"

    It was no secret that on the campaign trail Donald Trump wanted detente with Russia and bring an end to Cold War ll. Trump planned to do what President Ronald Reagan did.

    Cold wars are extremely expensive and the proxy wars that come along with cold wars and sometimes leads to sending troops into war (Vietnam War, Soviet-Afghanistan War)

    The losers do what they have a long track record of doing...conducting witch hunts.

    Any chance of detente between the United States and Russia have been thrown into the crapper by the Democrats.

    The Democrats now own Cold War ll 100%. Do you think they will pay for the trillions of dollars and American blood or will they surrender like they did in 1974 ?

     
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    Yes and if it weren't for the DNC and the Hillary campaign being exposed as a corrupt banana republic political party and and all of the Russian phobia going on, Trump would have won the popular vote by a landslide.
     
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    What I believe is that Trump got a boost from not only the DNC hacking but also Comey's letter that was literally made public only days before the actual election.
     
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    is Comey working with the Russians too ?
     
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    Comey was a Russian agent LAST year. But not this year. This year he is defending the USA from Russia - or at least was last month. He has absolute proof of everything he says too: "I can't give you any evidence, facts or witnesses, but you don't need any." What more proof than that is ever needed in court other than a cop says "It's true because I said so, that's they only proof you jurors need."
     
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    Comey has got some kind of an agenda, and I'm anxious for someone to reveal it. No doubt Comey impacted 2016 and 2018 is about to begin. This guy, litterally, holds the balance of power in his hands.
     
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    And if people didn't know how corrupt the DNC was and if Anthony wiener wasn't sexting little girls, Hillary would of won?
     
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    All I am saying was that Clinton probably would've have won if Comey didn't write that letter to Congress and you know what, Clinton truned out to be clean. At least when it came to looking for any new emails they didn't find any, and announced it the day before the election.
     
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    He was a director at HSBC, the laundromat of CIA drug money.
     
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    Hillary needs all those blacks to support her.

    And she will give a citizenship to every illegal immigrant and every refugee, then they will vote for her in the future.


    In 1950, white population was about 90% in USA.
    in 2014, white population is about 60% in USA

    In 2050, white population will be less than 50% in USA.
    In 2100, white population will be 1/3 in USA.


    Latinos have passed whites as the largest ethnic group in California in 2015.
    California , in 2015, white population was 38%.
    Texas, in 2015, white population was 43%.

    The Majority of American Babies Are Now Minorities (2012) - The Census Bureau

    Fighting age.
    In the USA, whites having the oldest median age, 42, Hispanics have the youngest, 27.
    Non-Hispanic whites, Wikipedia

    Clintonstan = The united states of Latinos.


     
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    The fact that Hillary couldn't fill a high school gym have anything to do with her loss? Her popularity was conjored up by the DNC/media.

    Clinton did not end up being clean, she was "careless" with classified material. Maybe if the Democrat party wasn't infested with Anthony Wieners, Hillary might of had a chance. But in the end, Russia had nothing to do with her losing. The only people who believe that are the same people who preached she was gunna win in a landslide.
     
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    Are you obsessed with the Clinton's? Just saying - every post...
     
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    "Russia was involved in the election. There's no question about that." - U.S. ambassador to the United Nations
     
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    Well, this thread is about weather or not the Russians helped trump win... Against Hillary.
     
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    Hillary's obvious criminal behavior coupled with her lack-luster, feckless "Vote for a woman" campaign is what got Trump into the White House. Not the Russians.
     
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    Overall, what I actually believe is that Clinton probably could've gotten the undecided voters if there was no DNC Hack and also no Comey letter to Congress. She was up in the polls and what really swayed voters was the 11th hour Comey Letter but also the DNC Hacking.

    What it seems like now, was that there was some talking between Russia and also some of Trump's campaign people. Which at worst does reek of something akin to Watergate but at the least just reek of corruption and arrogance.
     
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    If the DNC could of kept their corruption secret, they could of tricked more people... :roflol:

    Democrats have a thing for sex with children. You think Anthony Wiener helped? Or the revelations coming out at the time like Pizzagate? The DNC has a bigger pedophile problem then the Catholic church did.
    You also must remember that wiki showed us how the DNC and the media were colluding to rig the polls. The funny thing was, they rigged the polls then believed them, and campaigned accordingly.

    Just BS excuses for Hillary's landslide defeat. Nobody buys the Russia crap. What will be funny is seeing how all this domestic spying plays out.
     
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    Why does it matter that the Russians hacked the elections. Whatever the Hell that means.

    Should we not be more interested in whether they Hacked the Votes?
     

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