Would watergate be accepted in todays politics?

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Was watergate a bad thing

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  1. Joe knows

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    We all know the story of watergate and what happened. We now have mass surveillance at multiple scales. We have political campaigns that hacked their opposing party. They spied on Trump not with bugs but they definitely tapped into his systems. Democrats defend this.

    secondly we have the NSA who monitor every phone in America. Store recorded conversations and texts in a huge database and have that information just waiting to be looked at for any political reason someone may deem appropriate to monitor or read to get info to possibly destroy lives. Also defended by both parties and renewed by every president since its creation.

    both of these examples are without a doubt worse than watergate. So my question to you all is this. Was watergate a bad thing?
     
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    it would be if Nixon said it out loud in a tweet, rather then in secrete on tapes

    the NSA does not record every call, but they do some calls, such as international calls
     
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    You’re saying it wouldn’t have been bad if Nixon said it out loud? So the act still wasn’t bad if I’m not mistaking your comment. It was the way he hid it?
     
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    works for Trump, say the bad stuff in a tweet and no one on the right cares
     
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    So you’re justifying the act of spying on political opposition based on Trump. So far Trump has turned out to be more truthful than democrats.
     
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    nope, just saying Trump got away with what Nixon did not - because he said it out loud vs on secrete tapes, the right has changed
     
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    I think watergate and russiagate are comparable and both were unacceptable. The russiagate perpetrators should get a similar treatment as the watergate bunch.
     
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    What did Trump get away with?
     
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    What he meant to say is that Clinton and members of her campaign got away with what Nixon did not. He was confused when he posted.
     
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    Yeah I’m lost too
     
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    He hurt a lot of fweelings on the left, that’s what he did. Orangeman bad
     
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    did you forget him saying this, he said many of the things like that

    if he did these things on tape, it would have been Nixon all over again, but because he said it out loud, people on the right did not care as much it seems

    "“Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” Trump proclaimed. He added, “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”"

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...mails-hold-him-accountable-column/2449564002/
     
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    They use a technology that picks up certain words such as bomb for example
     
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    not even sure that is true anymore, with voip, was easy with the old land lines, not so much anymore

    and the issue we often have is too much information to sift through, we knew about 911 before it happened, we just had not acted on that knowledge in time

    does our google, apple and alexa devices monitor us, could be, maybe why corps like Amazon pay so little taxes?
     
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    first of all, Nixon was never charged with anything, he only lost the Presidency, so even if Clinton did what you say, she also lost the Presidency
     
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    The thread is about russiagate not January 6. He just got off track.
    He was wrong. The press would not have rewarded him.
     
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    Russia did what he said to do.... he got his message to Russia and Russia acted on it

    but your right, the press did not reward them for it... any more then Mexico paid for a wall... Trump lies
     
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    How did Russia act on it?
     

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