Would you amend the Constitution to save our Constitutional rights?

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Would you amend the Constitution to save our Constitutional rights?

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  1. Pregnar Kraps

    Pregnar Kraps New Member Past Donor

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    Would you amend the Constitution to save our Constitutional rights?

    If you knew the Constitution was in danger of being replaced by Shariah law would you favor amending it in order to maintain our Constitutional rights?

    Yes

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  2. AlpinLuke

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    Is it so easy to replace the Constitution in the United States???

    In Italy to modify the Constitution it requires a long and complicated procedure and at the end of it there is still the possibility of a popular referendum to confirm or to reject the modification.
     
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    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    Amending the constitution is waste of time, progressives wipe their assess with it on a daily, so amending it wouldnt make a difference.
     
  4. junius. fils

    junius. fils New Member

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    Several little details:

    1. We are in as much danger of Sharia Law as we are in danger of seeing a perch on a pogo stick. The question is beyond silly.

    2. For the Constitution to be replaced by Sharia Law would require an amendment to the Constitution. This brings us right back to that perch on a pogo stick.

    3. If the Constitution was so amended, that would CHANGE our Constitutional Rights. This would mean that our Constitutional rights were NOT being violated. This makes the question even more beyond silly. It also makes for a fish probably getting tired of that pogo stick.

    4. I take the liberty of respectfully suggesting a more productive use of your time.
     
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    What if Billy Graham was about to impose Baptist law on all of us, what would we do then?

    If the constitution was in danger of being replaced by anything else, there isn't much an amendment could do. After all it's being replaced.

    What an idiotic thread. Just another Islamophobe tyring to bring up Sharia law whenever possible.
     
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    junius. fils New Member

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    We're more in danger from our "own" religions imposing THEIR so-called law.
     
  7. Pregnar Kraps

    Pregnar Kraps New Member Past Donor

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    Ladies and Gentlemen,

    The key to any secret campaign's success is allowing it to continue undiscovered or undisturbed until the time is right to place the plan into action.

    These well known pro-Muslim posters are attempting to discredit the idea so that when you see or hear another person raising the alarm you will immediately discount the alert as fish/pogo like.

    A clever mental image.

    As a patriotic American veteran I am known to be only concerned with protecting Americans, our economy and business sector, our culture, our Constitution, our government and our way of life.

    I don't hate or fear Muslims as such. I focus on the threat of Creeping Jihad and how Muslims pose that threat and manifest a cultural and legal toxicity even when they obey the laws.

    The threat they pose might be compared to the same threat posed by a very small clump of cancer cells discovered in a mammogram.

    The cluster of cancer cells may not pose a threat to the woman's IMMEDIATE health but the doctor will definitely want to remove them to prevent a life threatening situation down the road.

    These jokers who have objected to even the IDEA of my thread want us to ignore these cancerous cells until it is too late for us to save ourselves.

    If you want me to explain this in greater detail let me know.

    I will be glad to oblige.

    :)
     
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    Pregnar Kraps New Member Past Donor

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    Ladies and Gents,

    Christianity poses no threat to America or our freedoms.

    Islam does.

    Beware anyone attempting to make it seem as though Christianity and Islam are equal threats.

    They aren't.

    Christianity Loves.

    Islam hates and Conquers by the sword and with complete Koranic justification.

    Read my sig.
     
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    We already have an amendment in the Constitution that stops Shariah law from being implemented. It is called the First Amendment and it "prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion", thus nullifying any attempt replace our laws with religious based laws so the whole point is moot.
     
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    Islam poses no threat to America or our freedoms.
     
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    DarkDaimon Well-Known Member

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    No, actually it is quite difficult to add amendments to the Constitution. The difference is that in Italy, it sounds like people actually know how their Constitution works.
     
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    Nor is there any serious effort anywhere to contravene the First Amendment via "sharia law" - although the thirteen states that still resist gender equality in marriage law may try it.
     
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    The Ultimate Goal of Islam

    James M. Arlandson

    Islamic terrorism may eventually be defeated in its large manifestations, like the one we saw on 9/11, but built into earliest Islam is an ultimate goal—what is it, according to the Quran, the Hadith (Muhammad’s words and deeds outside of the Quran), and Muhammad’s life?

    Osama bin Laden and Abu-Musab al-Zarqawi, the Jordanian who beheads innocent workers in Iraq, are open about this goal, as we see in these fatwas, statements, and interviews before and after 9/11.

    In bin Laden’s August 1996 fatwa declaring war against the US, he claims that Islamic revival is occurring around world, and especially around the Muslim world:
    Under the present circumstances [of Zionist-Crusader aggressions], and under the banner of the blessed awakening which is sweeping the world in general and the Islamic world in particular, I meet with you today.

    In March 1997 Peter Arnett interviews bin Laden, who says the goal of jihad is to exalt God’s word (the Quran) to the heights, in other words, until the message of his Holy Book goes around the world.

    For [subordination to the Jews and occupation of Arabia] and other acts of aggression and injustice, we have declared jihad against the US, because in our religion it is our duty to make jihad so that God's word is the one exalted to the heights and so that we drive the Americans away from all Muslim countries.

    His absurd goal of driving out Americans from all Islamic lands has been answered here.

    In May 1998 Jonathan Miller, then a reporter with ABC News, now a consultant on terrorism for Los Angeles, interviews bin Laden, who believes that he is a servant of Allah and that his primary mission is to spread by fighting the religion of light.
    I am one of the servants of Allah. We do our duty of fighting for the sake of the religion of Allah. It is also our duty to send a call to all the people of the world to enjoy this great light and to embrace Islam and experience the happiness in Islam.

    Our primary mission is nothing but the furthering of this religion. ...

    In November 2001, after 9/11, bin Laden allows an interview with Hamid Mir, the editor of an Arabic-language journal. The terrorist pulls back a little from his wish to slaughter innocent people, though he has said in numerous other statements and interviews that he is justified in doing so. His mission is to spread the Quran:
    Hamid Mir: Can it be said that you are against the American government, not the American people?

    Osama: Yes! We are carrying on the mission of our Prophet, Muhammad (peace be upon him). The mission is to spread the word of God, not to indulge [in] massacring people.

    In December 2001 bin Laden records a video in which he and a sheikh extol the 9/11 attacks. He wants everyone to utter the first of the five pillars of Islam, a confession of faith that is the first step in accepting the "true religion," the one for which that bin Laden is fighting.

    I was ordered to fight the people until they say there is no god but Allah, and his prophet Muhammad.

    [...]

    Ultimately, violent and non-violent radicals want religious world domination.

    Where do bin Laden and al-Zarqawi get this goal of spreading Islam around the world? Out of thin air? Why do not Evangelical Christians use violence and other extreme means to spread their message?

    After all, Christ said to his disciples to go into all the world and preach the gospel (Matt 28:18-20). What is the difference between the two religions in their outlook and methods of promulgation?

    As for Islam, the Quran states unequivocally the superiority and triumph of Islam over all religions in three different verses: 61:9, 48:28, and 9:33.


    http://www.answering-islam.org/Authors/Arlandson/ultimate_goal.htm
     
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    "The Ikhwan (Muslim Brotherhood in America) must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad, in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within, and "sabotaging" its miserable house by their hands, and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God's religion is made victorious over all other religions."

    (Mohamed Akram, "An Explanatory Memorandum on the General Strategic Goal for the Group in North America" May 22, 1991, Government Exhibit 003-0085, United States vs. Holy Land Foundation, et al. 7 (21).



    http://www.clarionproject.org/Muslim_Brotherhood_Explanatory_Memorandum
     
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    What well known pro-Muslim posters? If you refer to me, then be honest enough to say so. As I see it, the comment resembles a cheap shot.

    " As a patriotic American veteran," I suggest you get in line. I spent 21 years in the US Army, to include 4 overseas tours, one of which was in RVN. If you mean to imply that you are one and I am not, then be honest enough to say so. As I see it, the comment resembles another cheap shot and I personally resent it.

    MOD EDIT - Rule 3
     
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    yep, I would reword it so that a strict separation of ALL religions from government... make it even clearer then it is now

    I bet Muslims have no issue with the ten commandments being put in our court rooms, would you allow that? they would like the 1st couple commandments.... same as some Christians would


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    Don't know. But what I do know is that if some Muslim has a dagger at my exposed throat and says "convert to Islam or die", I'm asking him "how do I get to Mecca?"
     
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    It requires a 2/3 majority in both houses of Congress. After that, it has to be ratified by 2/3 of state legislatures.
     
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    I say return Christianity to our schools and the Ten Commandments to every courtroom.

    And specifically ban Islam and Shariah.
     
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    "Is THAT too shallow for you?" Yup.

    As for the rest, I COULD be the illegitimate son of Ho Chi Minh and the Kaiser's wife. I COULD be a lot of things. What I AM is in touch with reality.
     
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    The only constitutional amendment I would favor is one that bans the use, creation, or employment of horrible strawman arguments.

    Oh, and I voted yes, simply because I am annoyed at the Christian fear and bigotry towards anyone not white and Christian.
     
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    What about in RVN?

    When you were walking around Saigon or anywhere in a South Vietnamese area I'll bet you never got the sense that you were surrounded by covert VC, did you?
     
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    not hardly, you want the same thing Muslims fanatics want, your religion forced on people, you obviously do not respect our constitution...

    save religion for Sunday school

    keep sharia and biblical law out of our court rooms, blasphemy laws have no place in our court rooms


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