Would you kill 42 children for making fun of your friend's bald head?

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  1. jedimiller

    jedimiller Well-Known Member

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    Notice how no one called the god in the OT Jesus? Jesus was the only son of god. All other OT gods that killed were fakes. I go by the red letters in the bible nothing else.
     
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    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    when you read The Tortoise and the Hare by Aesop did you actually beleave that there was a race and tortoise and hares can speak did you criticize the story for it not being beleaveable or did you accept and understud the story for the life leason it taught

    I and many Christians don't read the bible as a factorial history book that every story are factual events we read and study it for the life lessons it teaches especially with the old testament

    not all Christians are fundamentalist Christians a lot of us believe in evolution we believe in science
    why is it OK to lump all Christians in the same group as a few but you cant lump all Muslims in the same group of the fundamentalist Muslims that did the terrorist attacks
     
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    Not everyone who has a religion is that sort of extreme authoritarian. Perhaps the problem is that SOME of the OT is clearly history, and intended to be history. So it's necessary to distinguish, not always easy. I think the easy part is, any passage that talks about imaginary beings is fiction. The problem with my brief presentation is with the first item, because it assumes gods never in evidence. The second statement is also problematic, because it makes assumptions about the "personality" of the character not in evidence. And so the third statement follows ONLY because the assumptions about the imaginary character fail to accord with other assumptions about that character, leading to a mutually exclusive set of conditions that the authoritarian can only resolve by simply ignoring something, temporarily and under certain conditions.

    It's like the old joke:
    Rule 1: The boss is always right.
    Rule 2: When the boss is wrong, see rule 1.
     
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    Everyone has his own interpretation in things large and small. What image comes to mind when
    reading of the daemons going into the swine? No two would draw the same picture.

    What is weird and betimes disturbing about our fundies is the way they think that reading it as literal is correct, that they do read it literally (tho they dont) and that god guides them to the correct reading.
     
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    So How do we know the New Testament God wasn't "made up by people"?
     
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    I'm curious what Church/denomination JM attends that teachs "The God in the Old Testabment was made up.....only the God in the New Testament is real"?
     
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    It's the Church of The Jedi. aka, the church of the cloaked activist atheist.
     
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    Gorn, you sly atheist propagandist you! You almost fooled us with this one! Good try though! See, no Christians on this forum would be immoral enough to give their impressionable young children a book that would have that IMMORAL of a tale in it (assuming that they are loving caring parents.) The are moral, so they'd have removed that disgusting immoral tale from the main book that they give their children centuries, instead of just passing forward immoral tales. Jesus, too, would have been smart enough to condemn that tale, obviously. Seeing how he's so moral and all. So that tale would be relegated to the history books, never to be seen again.

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    The next thing you know is that Gorn will claim that the Bible says that the invisible man in the sky was JUSTIFIED in killing virtually every thing on the planet - including innocent baby humans, bunnies, kittens, etc., just because HE HIMSELF made a mistake, and was such an idiot that he couldn't come up with a more compassionate solution than mass-murder that would have made Hitler envious! The Bible is the most ethical book of all time so it would NEVER say anything as vicious as that, Gorn!!

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    They are too scared of death to admit the painful, obvious, problematic truth.
     

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