******************************************* ◄ Matthew 7:6 ► 6. Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you. The scriptures do not tell you to throw your life away helping the wrong people.
As a general rule, my CCW is for *MY* protection. Unless I was cornered and felt threatened, I would probably not intervene.
Or wrong, dead wrong.......... Also, if she was a prostitute getting beaten for holding back money or stealing drugs or some other bad criminal business gone sour, how do you get involved ??? If you are not an active Police Officer, you do not have Departmental protection, getting involved as Noble as it may be, is just not advisable......
I can't stand men who beat women and children, it causes an intense reaction, and would have intervened as I have done in the past. I would not need a firearm. It is likely I would have broken that arm and wrist, both his collar bones, his nose, dislocated at least one of his knees and a fair chance I'd leave my ring out to slice up his face. It would be deemed certainly justified, particularly since they would find a knife when his dna and prints on it. Been there. Done that. Many a times, though that is my increasingly distant past and I no longer live in such a community. I did for quite a while. Everyone knew not to abuse women or children around me because it got crazy over it. What ever the man was doing to her, I would do much worse to him. But it'd be much worse if a child than a woman. Society has changed in such regards. I understand the new laws by liberals essentially demand that people be apathetic cowards and tends to prosecute those who act otherwise. So intervening with a firearm - if a man - would put you at great legal risk. A woman likely would get away with blowing him away with a shot or two - and of course the police could empty a couple of Glocks into him to defend her or beat him to death claiming he was "resisting." In that sort of community the law tends to function quite differently. It is likely the police and criminal justice system will do little punitive to that punk because they really don't care about those people much either way. They don't care about him. They don't care about her. Don't care about anyone there. Until weapons get used, they just don't care and unless the weapon is used for murder they still don't care much. They care a little bit if someone is killed with a weapon, not alot, but they care somewhat - depending upon who the victim is. Oh, white people really need to stay out of neighborhoods such as that one appears to be. Those people tend to be exceptionally racist against white people, particularly white men.
No, they wouldn't come to his aid - unless you're white. They'd just watch and enjoy watching too. The more violence the more interesting it would be. I don't think they're much a lone white guy could do without many potential negative repercussions. - - - Updated - - - Rules work differently there. The risk of involving depends who and what you are.
Typical horse South end output, people that talk like that tend to get flattened by a bunch of that guys cowardly friends, no thanks, it is not for me. A friend of mine was very good at that type of big talk, he tried it with a 19 year old and got totally trashed, oddly enough, the teen was a druggie in poor shape and my friend was in good shape and exercised every day. - - - Updated - - - Obviously you have not kept up with current events involving the Police and miscreants, no matter.... And not just White folks, Hispanics and others would fare poorly too.
No, it does not bother me to see Democrats doing this to each other. They vote Democrat in disproportionate numbers, they call each other terrible names and when called out for it say "we're taking the sting out of historic hurtful terms", they protest the very police who would otherwise stop this, they protest about "stop and frisk" which was actually decreasing shooting incidents. The fact is, this is what they wanted, this is what they voted for. They live in a world of their own making and that does not bother me one little bit anymore. I'm not taking a risk of retribution just to help ghetto trash. F'em!
Agreed about Latinos, but not as likely. The rich media talking heads present a very false view of racial inner city ghettos. Personally they are terrified of them but dare not say what they actually know and think. The attitudes of police and prosecutors can be very different and otherwise counter intuitive from a outsiders view. Attitudes overall are different there. Because they were standing so far back they would not have come to the aid of the man beating the woman. Rather, they would enjoy watching another fight. Nothing indicated this was a gang attack and if of them had been with that guy they wouldn't be standing 10 yards away. If a white guy saw this driving by stopped and pulled out a gun, he'd be ok. But if he killed the thug it is likely he would be charged with something. If a poor white relying on a public defender, eventually he'd get a convict for manslaughter on a deal with little to no jail time, but not for a year or two. If another hood rat jumped in and truly beat the crap of that guy, they'd charge him with misdemeanor assault - but it'd just be 2 nights in jail and a short probation. If it was another thug or known person of significance of that community who beat the crap out that punk, after a few days some middle ranking officer would shake his hand, tell of how that's how they used to be able to deal with punks like that, but also tell him to lighten up next time and not beat quite as badly. If she is a prostitute or it drug related, it would just make him look bad. They would assume because she is there she is likely a prostitute and drug addict, whether or not she is. They see most ordinary people as trash people, but then make their evaluations with that as the community standard, so will show some respect at that level. Police have to deal with low lives, drugs, alcoholics and other low income trashy people all the time. But in old inner city ghettos things work differently there. Old NE and Midwest racial ghetto inner cities are their own world. Rule of law and social attitudes are quite different there.
Wow is that a creepo message. You know nothing about her. She could be a school teacher and a black woman who dares say she supports Trump. You really don't know the circumstance, do you?
In NYC they used to drop refrigerators on the Police from the roofs of public housing, this was a popular pastime in the 1960s, dropping Government funded appliances on Public servants, lol gotta love the irony....
According to the last election results, there is a 95% chance that I am exactly right. Anybody would take those odds in Vegas. Stuff your outrage up your backside!
OK, Clint. If you are putting your self out there in other people biz with a gun in your hand, your death will be violent and spectacular and mean nothing to anyone worth it. - - - Updated - - - I got good money that says she would get up from that beating and testify against you in a heart beat. That's why I don't get involved in that sort of non sense.
I once saw a man that was afixin to go beating up a woman in NYC, I did not wait until he actually hit her, and he came at me, Well, it ain't worth getting involved in many cases, dial 911 and report it, even as a LEO, call for backup, getting killed helps nobody.
I agree with what miketx and some others have said. I carry to defend myself and my family. Too easy to get sued these days to take on that kind of risk for a stranger. I realized how sad that is as i was typing it.
Look, I'm not going to interject myself into every street fight that happens to erupt. I would much sooner just call the police and make a good witness. On the other hand, I am not going to just stand idly by and watch some guy beat a woman to death with his bare hands. It has nothing to do with being macho like Clint. It has to do with living with myself. I would have given that guy one opportunity to stop punching and get off of her or he would get shot, and I would make that perfectly clear to him.
And perhaps find yourself facing his now enraged co-workers or friends or get described in the media as another George Zimmerman ???
George Zimmerman wasn't defending some helpless woman on the ground getting the life beat out of her. And screw that guy's friends. I really don't give a rip about the media either. Too freakin' old to care about the media or the guy's cowardly friends.
I also said if you interject, she will go to court and testify that YOU started it. - - - Updated - - - Yea, because in liberal land people don't defend themselves.
No, because it's domestic violence, and that is a police matter. I've read of too many cases where a woman has been beaten, but then when officers try to arrest or stop the man, the woman attacks them for attacking her man. I don't have the training to deal with that kind of stuff. I would call 911 on them.
