WSJ: RNC Security Foiled Russian Hack Attack.....

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  1. TomFitz

    TomFitz Well-Known Member

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    My point stands. Newsmax was trying to create a false equvilancy.

    Nor does any steps the RNC may have taken change the fact that the Russian psyops campaign was obviously targeted at the Democratic candidate.

    Wikileaks data dumps were deliberately timed to have maximum negative impact on the Democratic National Convention and later, on the Clinton campaign.

    Wikileaks gave Trump a pass, although it's doubtful that any of Trump's data efforts are particularly secure.

    Those facts are obvious.
     
  2. MMC

    MMC Well-Known Member

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    No your point doesn't stand, not even close. Repeatedly Newsmax cited the WSJ.....and gave the link to the WSJ. Try another excuse.
     
  3. CourtJester

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    Well please explain where you think my confusion lies. And how did Hillary get into the discussion. We are talking the difference between influencing the voting and influencing the mechanism for vote counting.

    What both the FBI and CIA have said is the the Russians tried to influence thevway people voted through their hacks but did not interfere withe the mechanics of the system. Got it now?

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    Well you can claim perhaps the FBI and CIA are confused if you think you know more than they do. My statement is just what they said.
     
  4. Sam Bellamy

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    I won't believe a single thing from this government (administration). Show us the proof or shut up.
     
  5. MMC

    MMC Well-Known Member

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    I did that with pointing out that you did not know what all the US Election System entails. Hillary didn't get into the discussion. It was clear I stated the CIA members were part of her Cult.

    No what the CIA and those at the FBI are saying is that the Russians helped Trump win. The ODNI isn't down with that.

    And if you think you know more than Clapper than you are deluding yourself.
     
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    Last Thursday I listened to a hour long interview with Julian Assange and he still stands by that the hackers weren't state sponsored.

    When asked about the RNC Assange said he only had four pages on the RNC and there's "nothing there", no corruption with in the RNC.

    Wikileaks is in the business of exposing corruption and there are something like 50,000 e-mails that exposes the Hillary campaign, the Clinton Foundation and the Democrat National Committee being a criminal and corrupt organizations.

    If the RNC were just half as corrupt as the DNC, Donald Trump wouldn't have won the Republican Presidential nomination.
     
  7. MMC

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    Here was another
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    EXCLUSIVE: Ex-British ambassador who is now a WikiLeaks operative claims Russia did NOT provide Clinton emails - they were handed over to him at a D.C. park by an intermediary for 'disgusted' Democratic whistleblowers


    “'Neither of [the leaks] came from the Russians,' (*)Murray said. 'The source had legal access to the information. The documents came from inside leaks, not hacks.'

    He said the leakers were motivated by 'disgust at the corruption of the Clinton Foundation and the tilting of the primary election playing field against Bernie Sanders.’”

    “’I don't understand why the CIA would say the information came from Russian hackers when they must know that isn't true,' he said. 'Regardless of whether the Russians hacked into the DNC, the documents Wikileaks published did not come from that.’”.....snip~


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...gusted-Democratic-insiders.html#ixzz4T6LEHmqU
     
  8. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    One has to wonder if the "disgusted Democratic whistle blower" was Seth Rich who was executed on the street in D.C. ?

    Who put the contract out on Seth Rich ??? Hillary ??? Obama ??? Huma ??? Valerie Jarrett ???

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    One has to wonder if the "disgusted Democratic whistle blower" was Seth Rich who was executed on the street in D.C. ?

    Who put the contract out on Seth Rich ??? Hillary ??? Obama ??? Huma ??? Valerie Jarrett ???

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    One has to wonder if the "disgusted Democratic whistle blower" was Seth Rich who was executed on the street in D.C. ?

    Who put the contract out on Seth Rich ??? Hillary ??? Obama ??? Huma ??? Valerie Jarrett ???

     
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    I never said that. The FBI and CIA are full of human beings and anything is possible since you brought it up. Any number of things could sway the FBI or CIA to jump to conclusions or make false claims. I have yet to see any proof Russia hacked us. I have seen evidence of presidents or political parties that do shady stuff to try and get ahead.

    With no evidence it is just hear say. I will say it is very possible Russia or another country could have done this. Russia and China have hacked America many times so I am not completely against the accusations but for Obama and the left to only complain now when their party loses is sad. If anything was hacked and leaked to Wikileaks it just showed how corrupt and messed up Hillary is. The American people voted for Trump so Hillary would not be president. Russia had nothing to do with Hillary being a bad candidate. Hillary caused Hillary to lose. Don't blame Russia for something they did not do.
     
  10. CourtJester

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    Well actually you did claim I didn't understand what the election system entails. What you didn't do is provide any evidence to demonstrate the truth of your statement.

    And once again ( vain hope that repetition will result in education) the FBI and CIA did not say that the Russians helped Trump win. They said that Russia attempted to influence the election in Trump's favor but neither agency claimed that effort was successful. Understand the difference yet!
     
  11. MMC

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    You haven't demonstrated what all the US Election System entails. Other than knowing about some voting machines. Let me know when you think you got it all down.

    Bottomline to influence the election in Trumps favor......is to say they helped Trump beat Hillary. Playing with terminology doesn't change that bottomline.

    Now do you think you can manage to use some common sense.....as those smart powers you are attempting to show. Must come with a glitch.
     

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