WTC1/WTC2 perimeter columns vs. plane impact, math discussion...

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  1. genericBob

    genericBob New Member

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    It is interesting to note the precision of both hits, that is "FLT11" & "FLT175"
    the "aircraft" in both cases had sufficient KE to penetrate the outer wall, and
    cause the "aircraft" to disappear inside the building but not bust a hole in the
    opposite wall, this was a rather good trick with what had to have been a totally
    non-specific quantity of KE, ( that is unless the perpetrators had it computer modeled
    and totally figured out as to what would happen before launching the attack )
    its oh so convenient for the perpetrators to have all 4 aircraft virtually disappear.
    Why is it not seen in the gash left by either "FLT11" or "FLT175" some remnant
    of the tail of said aircraft or something that would indicate that an airliner had been
    there? This is a rather precision bit of calibration, because the airliner hit could
    have produced a result with the tail of said aircraft visible in the hole in the side of
    the tower, or it could have had so much KE as to bust a hole in the opposite wall,
    but no, it entered the building and then stopped, after having penetrated far enough
    to hide the tail of the aircraft from view. Also, please do think about this, an "airliner"
    that can be clocked on video as taking 11 frames of video to travel its own length in air,
    and also 11 frames of video to travel its own length while penetrating a wall.
    Look at "newsreel" documentation of race car crashes, note that at the moment of
    impact there is an obviously definable CRASH event, and deceleration of the vehicle.
    compare that to "FLT175" ..... now do you see?
     
  2. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Video isn't done by 'frames'
     
  3. genericBob

    genericBob New Member

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    Please enlighten me as to what if not frames, describes the behavior of video?

    Can U dig NTSC?
     
  4. psikeyhackr

    psikeyhackr Well-Known Member

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    The north tower was hit at the 94th floor.

    The south tower was hit at the 81st floor.

    So the steel at the south tower impact had to support at least twice as much weight. When do we even hear how much thicker the steel was in the south tower impact zone? We should know the tons of steel and tons of concrete on every level.

    psik
     
  5. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    For one thing,the images are recorded magnecically on the tape

    And NTSC was the analog way television was broadcast,as opposed to the digital way it is now.
     
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    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    That's why one stood longer than the other.....duh
     
  7. genericBob

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    Something that has me very curious,
    in the case of any commercial structure,
    the builder takes the original drawings and makes
    notes so as to produce the "AS BUILT" set of prints,
    these are then stored so as to provide a reference for
    the time that things like major renovations or repairs have to be done.
    Where are the AS BUILT drawings for the WTC?
     
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    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Why do you need to know?
     
  9. genericBob

    genericBob New Member

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    It would provide valuable INFORMATION about the structure of the tower(s)
    so as to sort out the question of Controlled Demolition ( or not ) ...........

    Secrecy is the hiding place for tyrants!

    Publish ALL of the INFORMATION where everybody can see it!
     
  10. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    All that has been online for years now...just have to look
     
  11. genericBob

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    The recording method does NOT address the fact that its still measured in FRAMES
    be it analog or digital TV. Look up the specifications for either analog or digital TV and
    note that the timing is still measured in FRAMES. and it is relevant in that it defines a
    finite time when the Video is recording a very specific bit.

    So, 11 frames of video is a relevant quantity. do you have a rebuttal for that?
     
  12. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    sorry BOB,but videotape is measured by time markers,NOT frames....nice try though.
     
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    NTSC ( & other bits ) lists 30 frames per second as a frame rate, and as a frame rate
    it is possible to know the speed of moving objects recorded on video by the number of
    frames it takes to move a known distance.
    So, given 11 frames of video to travel its own length in air
    and 11 frames of video to travel its own length while penetrating a wall.
    do you not see the significance here?
     
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    psikeyhackr Well-Known Member

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    ROFLMAO

    But it is the one where the plane impacted what should have been the thicker steel that fell first.

    psik
     
  15. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    <sigh>I know that
     
  16. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nope. It's completely plausible the plane penetrated one structural curtain wall but not the other.

    I'm not going too argue your point for you.

    Show me why it can't happen.
     
  17. genericBob

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    you ask to be shown why it can't happen
    however, do think about this, the mainstream media & our "leaders"
    have proclaimed that the events happened just so, when in fact they
    have presented no proof whatsoever that it did, or for that matter
    even could have happened in the way described in the official story.
     
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    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    there IS NO 'frame rate' for videotape..it's one continuous recording of an image,and NTSC standards were written BEFORE videotape..
     
  19. genericBob

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    I challenge that, by what authority do you make the statement there isn't any frame rate for video tape?
    where did you get that bit of information?
     
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    Just to correct a misconception. It is more of a scan rate. Analog TV screens scans one picture and when it shows, it starts at the top of the TV screen and runs to the bottom then starts over so there is an effective frame rate. It records on tape in that manner.
     
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    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Well yeah,but I was trying to simple it down for the truther
     
  22. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    videotape isn't film...it doesn't have frames,so no frame rate.

    Duh.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They cannot comprehend what they do not understand so must make up something that their limited understanding accepts. Thinking a crush-able object with tons of mass cannot do damage is ignorance of physics. Thinking mass at that speed will just break apart and fall to the ground hitting a shredder like the towers is also complete ignorance of physics. Some of the non crush-able objects like the engine parts and some wheel parts ended up going through the building.
     
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    I dare you to ask the question of a licensed broadcast engineer.
    I'll give you MY answer on this and that is the recording media,
    whatever that happens to be, tape, DVD, or? has to recognize the
    fact that the video is divided into frames for recording & playback,
    because it has to interface with TV displays that handle the information
    in a frame by frame manner.

    Have you ever seen the high school science demo where a speeding car
    is recorded on video-tape and then the students can discern the speed of
    the car by examining the number of frames it takes for the car to travel a
    known distance. Very common stuff.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have already answered that and the post you are responding to has nothing to do with your answer.
     

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