WWE wrestler "smacked down" with heart attack after vaccine

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    14-TIME WORLD CHAMPION WRESTLER GETS SMACK DOWN BY VAXXX INDUCED HHHEART ATTACK

    Paul Levesque, who goes by the stage name of "Triple H" suffered a heart attack not too long after receiving the vaccine. Many people don't make the connection between their sudden, catastrophic illnesses, after getting injected vaccine. It doesn't appear that he has made that connection.

    He received the injection April 14th 2021. The heart attack occurred September 9th 2021.

    Most documented cases of vaccine reactions occur within 2 weeks after receiving the vaccine (or the second final dose of the vaccine). Not much is known about more delayed medical symptoms resulting from the vaccine.
    It is known that the vaccine can sometimes cause low level myocarditis (heart inflammation) that in rare instances could lead to a range of different types of heart problems.

    Let's remember that if it is not known the medical problem was caused by the vaccine, and there is a long enough delay, it's probably not going to be counted in the statistics concerning the vaccine complication rate.

    In Singapore the government is warning people about excessive physical exertion after taking the vaccine.

    "The Ministry of Health advised people to avoid strenuous physical activity for one week after receiving their first and second doses of the vaccine."
    "Swimming, cycling, lifting heavy weights, as well as ball and racket games are some of the activities individuals should avoid for seven days after receiving their first and second Covid-19 jabs, said the Ministry of Health"

    "The 16-year-old had collapsed at home following a gym weightlifting session on July 3, six days after receiving his first dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech/Comirnaty vaccine. He had developed acute severe myocarditis, or inflammation of the heart muscle, which led to the cardiac arrest. The Ministry said that the teen had trained with 'very heavy weights which were above his body weight'. The Ministry said the myocarditis was likely a serious adverse event caused by the vaccine, which may have been aggravated by the youth's strenuous lifting of weights and high consumption of caffeine."

    S'pore teen who suffered cardiac arrest after Covid-19 jab undergoing rehab, gets $225k in financial assistance, The Straits Times​

    Lifting heavy weights, that very likely would have been the case here with a WWE wrestler.
     
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    Melb_muser Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What exactly is the point of this thread?
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What do you think?
     
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    yes and people get blood clots from flying, even though risks are rare, they can happen, but we have no idea if the vaccine had anything to do with his heart attack or not, but yes, an immune response can have an effect, very rare, but it can
     
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    This hasn’t been studied enough to rule out long term effects. I totally agree
     
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    Your title implies causation, then you back track.

    By all means muse away, but it's odd that since you started the thread you don't seem have an opinion yourself.
     
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    There is a moderately high possibility of causation, yes.

    Should cases like these be counted in any statistics?
    I don't think they're being counted now.

    Are certain categories of people, like professional WWE wrestlers, at higher risk for vaccine complications?
    I don't think that's been well studied.
     
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    "He received the injection April 14th 2021. The heart attack occurred September 9th 2021."
    Its designed for us to infer a connection between a wrestler's heart attack and a shot he got 5 months earlier, without a shred of evidence whatsover. Its part of a smear campaign to foster fear . Its as desperate as it is cynical.
     
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    Which is in complete contradiction to your OP.

    You just wanted to get your conspiracy material into the discussion section didn't you?
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oooh, "fostering fear"...
    Your side wouldn't know anything about that, would they?
     
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    I agree that his tactics are getting more and more transparent.

    He has had the actual science explained many times, but it looks like he wants to go on his own path. Sadly, you simply cannot save a conspiracy theorist from themselves.
     
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    Oooh, "actual science". What exactly would that be?

    In other words you think we should completely ignore something if it hasn't been "proven by science" yet.
    Never mind whether any actual study has yet to be carried out that would answer the question.
     
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    I wonder how many God fearing Christians go to church one day, and get hit by a heart attack within the next 5 months? We can't prove definitively that church services are connected with increased risk..... but we sure can't rule it out either. I think its time for a serious look at the data.
     
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    Yeah, throw a little anti-religion in here for good measure.
     
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    "There's a moderately high possibility of causation" or in other words "I don't have any real proof of what I'm saying but I'm going to keep baiting people even though the science doesn't back up my claims".
     
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    I thought it was two weeks, wow, they're really reaching for a connection if that is true
     
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    That certainly doesn't mean we should just ignore it.

    Go show me where statistics on this type of thing are being compiled.
    You can't do that?
    Then I guess the official complication rate numbers are worthless.
     
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    1."Rev. Charles M. Franklin Jr of Ray of Hope Baptist Church in Baltimore, Maryland suffered a heart attack and died after communion service. According to the Christian Post the beloved pastor was 47 and leaves behind five children, a wife and a church that loved him".https://getuperica.com/114321/pastor-dies-from-heart-attack/

    2. "A longtime community leader from Columbus County passed away Sunday afternoon while giving a sermon in Wilmington.

    According to family members, Pastor Jessie Graham had a massive heart attack in the pulpit of Myrtle Grove First Born Church of the Living God Sunday. He was 78 years old" https://www.wect.com/story/15545660/columbus-county-man-dies-while-giving-church-sermon/

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    Texas pastor dies of heart attack hours after telling his church congregants he wanted to die
    https://www.facebook.com/ChristianT...his-church-congregants-he-/10158511739994916/

    4. "The Rev. Suzanne Marsh, a pastor who was a leader in the Coachella Valley’s interfaith community and a social justice activist, died from an apparent heart attack over the weekend. She was 55."
    https://www.desertsun.com/story/new...activist-dies-apparent-heart-attack/86451808/

    5. "The Rev. Dr. Britt Starghill, pastor of Kaighn Avenue Baptist Church, died unexpectedly Tuesday after suffering a heart attack. He was 46."https://www.courierpostonline.com/s...ersey/2015/06/04/camden-pastor-dies/28498135/

    He had led the historic church for 19 years, an unusually long tenure indicating a “special relationship” with his congregation, said the Rev. Dr. Elmo Familiaran,


    My last post is a quote of yours above "That certainly doesn't mean we should just ignore it.

    Go show me where statistics on this type of thing are being compiled.
    You can't do that?

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    "So anecdotal stories are only okay if they support what you think the science is.

    Double standards here"
     
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    Why would I bother sharing stats when you're entire thread relies on a "moderately high possibility of causation"? That's just code for BS.
     
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    It's 2 weeks because they are not looking at correlations that are longer.

    You can't see what you're not looking for.

    2 weeks is a short enough period of time that any medical issues are very suspicious.
     
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    I have to wonder why people are trying to scare Trump supporters into not getting the vaccine?
     
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    So anecdotal stories are only okay if they support what you think the science is.

    Double standards here.
     
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    someone having a heart attack 5 months after getting the vaccine, and trying to link it to the vaccine, is a bit much
     
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    See post #19 for rebuttal.
    Here is my assertion above thread.
    "I wonder how many God fearing Christians go to church one day, and get hit by a heart attack within the next 5 months? We can't prove definitively that church services are connected with increased risk..... but we sure can't rule it out either. I think its time for a serious look at the data."

    Hey here's more evidence based corrolation I found more my premise

    6. "The Rev. Charles M. Franklin Jr., pastor of Ray of Hope Baptist Church in Northeast Baltimore, died Sunday of an apparent heart attack at Union Memorial Hospital. He was 47.

    He officiated at Ray of Hope Church the day he died" https://www.baltimoresun.com/obituaries/bs-md-ob-charles-franklin-20190211-story.html

    7. "The Rev. Carlton Lee, 34, National Action Network’s Ferguson, Mo., chapter president, died Tuesday morning after suffering a heart attack, sources close to the family confirmed to The Root Tuesday afternoon after NAN’s founder and president, the Rev. Al Sharpton, shared the sad news on Twitter."https://www.theroot.com/carlton-lee-mike-brown-sr-s-pastor-dies-from-heart-at-1796072063
    8. "The Flint area lost one of its most influential pastors Monday when Christ Fellowship Baptist Church lead pastor Rev. Leroy Shelton died of a heart attack at his office. He was 65." https://www.mlive.com/news/flint/2009/05/influential_flint_pastor_dies.html

    I think we can pretty well close this thread down. Its been toasted, roasted and buried.
     
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