Xi Jinping Playing Chess, Trump Playing Checkers

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  1. precision

    precision Well-Known Member

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    Trump's weakness as a strategic thinker has been made glaringly apparent in this trade war with China. Xi Jinping has anticipated Trump's every move from the beginning of Trump's presidency. As such he, unlike Trump, has thoroughly and correctly thought the matter through and will watch as a shallow Trump and his elite enablers who have gone along with his nonsense concedes in the current trade war.

    To see what has taken place, consider this incident which took place after Trump was elected BUT before he took office

    What we can gather from this is that Xi knows exactly what he is dealing with when it comes to Trump. Therefore he has prepared accordingly. What Xi understands, that Trump does not, is that the strong leader who is able to create a broad consensus across society will come out victorious in this type of struggle.

    Therefore, although people did not realize it, Xi actually started preparing for this confrontation with Trump back in 2017. Consider this:

    https://www.rand.org/blog/2017/12/xis-consolidation-of-power-at-the-19th-party-congress.html

    Although it may have been perceived by some as just a typical ambitious power grab, what Xi was actually doing was getting China ready for the coming confrontation with an immature leader, Donald Trump.

    This was the next step

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-43361276

    Since Trump, in his typical, unrefined, un-subtle, glaring style has openly attacked China, Xi Jinping from his position, will be able to create consensus in the Chinese on the malicious nature of the US position. This will cause the Chinese people to rally around the flag and they will endure the pain inflicted as a result of the trade war.

    In contrast, here's what will happen on the US side

    https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/443175-unlike-chinas-xi-trump-is-not-president-for-life

    Checkmate!

    Xi Jinping is playing chess while Trump is playing checkers.
     
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  2. PrincipleInvestment

    PrincipleInvestment Well-Known Member

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    Xi Ping isn't remarkable in any way. The Chinese politburo bureaucracy plays the "long game". Xi Ping is waiting on a democratic president to lift tariffs. It's not a brilliant new strategy. Chinese expansionism isn't either.
     
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    He doesn't have to be against a president who appears to be on the level of trailer trash.
     
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    It seems odd, that if Trump is such a rube why would Xi want to replace him with a Democrat?

    China Covertly Subverting Trump Reelection

    China is conducting an aggressive disinformation and influence campaign designed to block the re-election of President Trump in 2020, according to a dissident Chinese billionaire who until recently was close to senior Beijing leaders.

    Guo Wengui, an exiled Chinese real estate tycoon-turned-anti-communist critic, said in an interview that details of the influence operation were disclosed recently by Chinese Vice President Wang Qishan in Beijing.

    The campaign has been underway since the 2018 mid-term election and involves enlisting pro-China elements inside the United States to end the Trump administration after four years.

    "China has been protesting western powers trying to interfere in the domestic politics of China but in fact China is not only trying interfere in the domestic politics of the United States, they are interfering publicly with U.S. elections," Guo told the Washington Free Beacon.

    According to Guo, who has known current Chinese President Xi Jinping for more than 10 years, the anti-Trump influence operation is being directed by Xi and Wang through the Communist Party of China (CCP) National Security Commission, a high-level body created in 2013 that since then has tightened control over all other security organs.
     
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    I agree Xi knows trump won’t sit back and do nothing and be played like he did Obama. He clearly was very worried before the president even took office. Leadership always makes the dictators fearful.
     
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    Xi Ping's strategy was laid out for him a decade before he assumed power. Trump had to formulate his own strategy. Tariffs and tax incentives are strengthening US mfg. and corporations are leaving China to avoid US tariffs. Democrats will do away with corporate tax incentives, and tariffs on Chinese goods. Xi Ping's course is clearly laid out ... wait. Communists sacrifice human pawns to advance their agendas, so naturally corporate entities are treated the same way. All Xi Ping has to do is ignore the problems the trade war creates for his people for a few more years, and communists thrive on human suffering, so it isn't a strategy at all ... it's a century old dogma.
     
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    Its very, very simple

    He would prefer to not have the confrontation, but if he is forced to, he will deal with it.

    Good try tho, my friend.
     
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    Link please.
     
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    Please. Give me a break. Damn!!! That's a manufactured response that is used for everything: "Trump won't be like Obama."

    Damn!!!
     
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    It seems quite clear from the quote above that’s what Xi was thinking and was correct. Obama would never question China’s trade policies nor their militarization and aggression.
     
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    Good Lord!!! What do you think the whole pivot to Asia was about? What do you think the TPP was about?

    Damn!!!
     
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    The TPP was a horrible trade deal...heck even his own party campaigned against it. I tell ya, id that’s the best Obama had, no wonder the DNC nominees are bashing Biden at the debates for his role in the admin
     
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    Link please? If you're that oblivious to Chinese political history I'm wasting my time, just as you've wasted yours by putting up thread.
     
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    Then open his country up to foreign ownership of companies, and prosecute companies that steal international patents
     
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    :applause::applause::applause::applause:

    In other words, I win!!! :banana::banana::banana::banana:
     
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    Yes ... you are a winner. :sleepy:
     
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    That ain't what's holding things up. China simply is not going to let the US dictate the level of power that its judicial system will have. Its that plain and simple. The US can't attack China with its military and force the issue so it ain't gonna happen.
     
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    Thanks! Glad you agree!!! Told you so folks!!! :roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    Oh! you're a gracious winner too! :roll:
     
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    Like I said here, it reminds me of Queen's Gambit vs Hypermodenism chess

    Like I Predicted Trade War Lasts For Months

    BTW here's some background on Hypermodernism chess

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypermodernism_(chess)
     
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    Asian culture and its commitment to long term results is far beyond the intellectual abilities of Trump or his followers. Theirs is a non-strategy of immediate action/reaction aimed at producing the desired outcome in weeks or months. Asians will inevitably grind Trump down using its most valued ally -- time. In the long run, even the very long run, China will win.

    China, and other Asian nations, think as a nation with national goals and aspirations. Americans think in terms of election cycles which only guarantees division. Obama knew this and that's his reasoning behind TPP. Trump, the moron, never gave it a though beyond what he could do to bust up another Obama initiative and make a "deal." Now he wants back in ON OUR TERMS. Are you kidding? All of Asia is laughing at Trump behind his back.

    America, you were in the driver's seat now you're not even in the trunk. Now that the "table genius" has declared war on China with his trade war, what do you think will be the reaction of TPP signers now in China's pocket? Looking to their new leader for direction.
     
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    Then they put at risk 550 bill of exports to the US
     
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    Obviously he would prefer to not have confrontation, and having a dim bulb Democrat like Biden as President, who is already China friendly, would be very very good for China.

    However my interests are not to prevent discomfort to Xi, but to have our country act in it's own best interests; interests that my not align with those of the Chinese Communist Party.

    You apparently feel differently on the matter.
     
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    Trump wanted to give farmers, who have been hit hard by the trade war, guarantees that China was boosting its U.S. purchases as he prepared for a rally in Ohio. But Lighthizer and Mnuchin conveyed to the president in an Oval Office meeting that the Shanghai talks did not have the results that he wanted, according to the Journal’s sources.

    Trump ordered new tariffs in response. Virtually everyone present at the Oval Office meeting – including national security advisor John Bolton, economic advisor Larry Kudlow and acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney – objected to his decision, according to the Journal. Only Peter Navarro, a China hawk, did not object.
    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/04/tru...lap-tariffs-on-remaining-chinese-imports.html

    Baby Donald realizes the importance of the farm belt vote. He knows his use of taxpayer money to keep those voters in his camp is of tenuous efficacy. So in letting his temper get the better of him he's rolling the dice farmers can be somewhat appeased. He will no doubt keep stealing taxpayer money for what is essentially a bride to farmers to keep supporting him.
     
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    Yep, the real problem here is that we have a president who cannot think. He typically starts stuff that he can't end. To bad many innocent people will suffer as a result of this foolishness before Trump will be forced to stop.
     

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