Yehovah or Yahweh?

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    3068. Yhvh

    Original Word: יְהֹוָה
    Part of Speech: Proper Name
    Transliteration: Yhvh
    Phonetic Spelling: (yeh-ho-vaw')
    Short Definition: LORD


    Isaiah 26:4 "Trust ye in the LORD for ever: for in the LORD JEHOVAH is everlasting strength:"


    Waw/Vav (wāw "hook") is the sixth letter of the Semitic abjads, including Phoenician wāw [​IMG], Aramaic waw [​IMG], Hebrew vav ו‬, Syriac waw ܘ and Arabic wāw و (sixth in abjadi order; 27th in modern Arabic order).

    It represents the consonant [w] (in original Hebrew ), (and [v] in modern Hebrew)


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waw_(letter)


    It represents the consonant W in original Hebrew but V in modern Hebrew. Yet YHWH, or YHVH is pronounced with both W and V if Yehovaw is pronounced.

    Ye-ho-V-a-W.

    Both the V and W sounds are used for the single letter. Either pronounced as VAV or WAW.
     
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    What causes a person to curse or blaspheme the Name of God?

    Isaiah 52:5 "Now therefore, what have I here, saith the LORD, that my people is taken away for nought? they that rule over them make them to howl, saith the LORD; and my name continually every day is blasphemed."

    Romans 2:24 "For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you, as it is written."


    Matthew 12:31 "Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men."


    Why do many blaspheme the name of God, The Holy Spirit?

    Because of nothing getting done nor being done about the wrong doing or the wrong teachings regarding God.


    Do we really want to live among those that are seeking to cause others to blaspheme the Name of God, The Holy Spirit, in which there is no forgiveness, in this world or in the world to come?

    Matthew 12:32 "And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."
     
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    Regardless of when the non forgiveness is imputed, what sorts of persons are they that seek to provoke man against God to the point of risking their Eternal Lives by provoking them to blaspheming The Holy Spirit, God?


    How dangerous is it to risk another human being's life to the point of non forgiveness, in this world or in the world to come?

    But how do they provoke to this?

    Romans 2:17-24 "Behold, thou art called a Jew, and restest in the law, and makest thy boast of God, 18And knowest his will, and approvest the things that are more excellent, being instructed out of the law; 19And art confident that thou thyself art a guide of the blind, a light of them which are in darkness, 20An instructor of the foolish, a teacher of babes, which hast the form of knowledge and of the truth in the law. 21Thou therefore which teachest another, teachest thou not thyself? thou that preachest a man should not steal, dost thou steal? 22Thou that sayest a man should not commit adultery, dost thou commit adultery? thou that abhorrest idols, dost thou commit sacrilege? 23Thou that makest thy boast of the law, through breaking the law dishonourest thou God?24For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you, as it is written."



    Behold. You claim to be a Jew, or a special Inheritance of God, and you rest upon the law, the law of the land in Law keeping and you make your boast that God loves Law keepers but you yourself break the Law and dishonor God. For this cause the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of your false boast.


    What is the law of the land? Peace.. Road rules. Stop signs. Quiet hours... Work hours... etc...

    Trespassing rules... Traffic violation Laws... Breaking and Entering Laws... etc...

    Illicit drug usages Laws. Public Intoxication Laws. Reckless driving laws... Speed Limit Laws... Littering Laws... etc...

    Loitering Laws...


    City and County Ordinances Laws.

    Sound Laws. etc...



    Behold. You claim to be a Jew, or a special Inheritance of God, and you rest upon the law, the law of the land in Law keeping and you make your boast that God loves Law keepers but you yourself break the Law and dishonor God. For this cause the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of your false boast.


    How long can God allow for persons to possibly never receive any forgiveness, in this world or in the next?


    Rather.. How long can God allow for one who calls himself/herself a Jew who makes a boast in the law and in God to continue to provoke the Gentiles into possibly never receiving any forgiveness, in this world or in the next?


    Where is the correction, the reproving, the disciplining from God to this person who claims him/her self to be a Jew, who boasts of the law and boasts of God yet is a law breaker and one who dishonors The Name of God? Where is the correction from God to this person?
     
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    Yes... I even blaspheme the Name of my God because of HIS lack of disciplining to HIS rebellious ones.

    The Head of a rebellious band is usually the more rebellious one. The Head is the Authority. I shall not ascribe any false associations. God is God and there is only One God. So to whom else can I ascribe Authority?

    If you take a look at all the rebellious factions in the world who use The Name of God or an Eternal One for their wrong doings and for their innocent blood shedding, to whom else can any person ascribe blame or Authority? Those that do not use The Name of God have better chances of being seeing in a light where God might not be in any Authority whatsoever.

    But these are often not the trouble makers. The trouble makers are usually the ones that feel confident enough that they are above the Law to cause trouble.

    The Law of the Land and the Law of God both say the same thing. Respect and Lawfulness.

    But when neither Law of the Land nor Law of God does anything to the wrong doings to the Laws, then to whom can any person ascribe responsibility?


    It would be as if thrown into a den of lions just to be entertainment.


    There is peace and Safety when there are Law enforcers. But when there is Law but no law enforcers, that causes the residents to place their hopes on a false thing.
     
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    6:19 Say, "What thing is greatest in testimony?" Say, " Allah is witness between me and you. And this Qur'an was revealed to me that I may warn you thereby and whomever it reaches. Do you [truly] testify that with Allah there are other deities?" Say, "I will not testify [with you]." Say, "Indeed, He is but one God, and indeed, I am free of what you associate [with Him]."


    6:1-5[All] praise is [due] to Allah, who created the heavens and the earth and made the darkness and the light. Then those who disbelieve equate [others] with their Lord.

    It is He who created you from clay and then decreed a term and a specified time [known] to Him; then [still] you are in dispute.

    And He is Allah, [the only deity] in the heavens and the earth. He knows your secret and what you make public, and He knows that which you earn.


    And no sign comes to them from the signs of their Lord except that they turn away therefrom.

    For they had denied the truth when it came to them, but there is going to reach them the news of what they used to ridicule.


    6:12-14
    Say, "To whom belongs whatever is in the heavens and earth?" Say, "To Allah ." He has decreed upon Himself mercy. He will surely assemble you for the Day of Resurrection, about which there is no doubt. Those who will lose themselves [that Day] do not believe.

    And to Him belongs that which reposes by night and by day, and He is the Hearing, the Knowing.


    Say, "Is it other than Allah I should take as a protector, Creator of the heavens and the earth, while it is He who feeds and is not fed?" Say, [O Muhammad], "Indeed, I have been commanded to be the first [among you] who submit [to Allah ] and [was commanded], 'Do not ever be of the polytheists.' "




    Even here, God shows Himself questionable. To Him belong whatever is in the Heavens and the Earth and there is no other Protector than He, yet there are many reposes of lives day and night.


    Say, "Is it other than Allah I should take as a protector, Creator of the heavens and the earth, while it is He who feeds and is not fed?" Say, [O Muhammad], "Indeed, I have been commanded to be the first [among you] who submit [to Allah ] and [was commanded], 'Do not ever be of the polytheists.' "



    It is He that feeds; both the believers and polytheists.



    How can I worship any who feeds the mouths and bellies of enemies towards the Good?

    I would be a curse to do such a thing. So for little whiles, He feeds His Own enemies to attack and kill His Own. Why? I don't know. But it happens and to deny that it does would be worse than speaking the truth about it.



    They say, 'I don't want to die', but they are daily out there attacking those others, in The Name of God, which they claim and try to persuade others into believing, that they are the reasons for their own personal 'pains' and 'struggles' they are having in life pertaining to God.


    To keep their own life, they destroy others while persuading others that to destroy others is the way to preserve their own life.



    And when one turns from their own wrong doing, the other 'friends' will not cease to seek to keep that one in chains or in constant belittlements.



     
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    6:12-14
    Say, "To whom belongs whatever is in the heavens and earth?" Say, "To Allah ." He has decreed upon Himself mercy. He will surely assemble you for the Day of Resurrection, about which there is no doubt. Those who will lose themselves [that Day] do not believe.

    And to Him belongs that which reposes by night and by day, and He is the Hearing, the Knowing.

    Say, "Is it other than Allah I should take as a protector, Creator of the heavens and the earth, while it is He who feeds and is not fed?" Say, [O Muhammad], "Indeed, I have been commanded to be the first [among you] who submit [to Allah ] and [was commanded], 'Do not ever be of the polytheists.' "



    And so what would foolishness be if not for God and His Kingdom to not provide Good to Their Earth?

    7:4 And how many cities have We destroyed, and Our punishment came to them at night or while they were sleeping at noon.


    7:8 And the weighing [of deeds] that Day will be the truth. So those whose scales are heavy - it is they who will be the successful.

    7:9 And those whose scales are light - they are the ones who will lose themselves for what injustice they were doing toward Our verses.

    7:10 And We have certainly established you upon the earth and made for you therein ways of livelihood. Little are you grateful.

    7:11 And We have certainly created you, [O Mankind], and given you [human] form. Then We said to the angels, "Prostrate to Adam"; so they prostrated, except for Iblees. He was not of those who prostrated.


    7:12 [ Allah ] said, "What prevented you from prostrating when I commanded you?" [Satan] said, "I am better than him. You created me from fire and created him from clay."

    7:13 [ Allah ] said, "Descend from Paradise, for it is not for you to be arrogant therein. So get out; indeed, you are of the debased.



    7:14 [Satan] said, "Reprieve me until the Day they are resurrected."

    7:15 [ Allah ] said, "Indeed, you are of those reprieved."

    7:16 [Satan] said, "Because You have put me in error, I will surely sit in wait for them on Your straight path.

    7:17 Then I will come to them from before them and from behind them and on their right and on their left, and You will not find most of them grateful [to You]."







     
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    7:11 And We have certainly created you, [O Mankind], and given you [human] form. Then We said to the angels, "Prostrate to Adam"; so they prostrated, except for Iblees. He was not of those who prostrated.


    7:12 [ Allah ] said, "What prevented you from prostrating when I commanded you?" [Satan] said, "I am better than him. You created me from fire and created him from clay."




    The poor obviously 'prostrates' to 'Adam'. So who does not prostrate to 'Adam', the first Created human of God?
     
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    7:12 [ Allah ] said, "What prevented you from prostrating when I commanded you?" [Satan] said, "I am better than him. You created me from fire and created him from clay."


    According to Zarathushtra, the world is a battleground between the forces of good and evil. Ultimately, good will prevail over evil. The mission in life is to conduct oneself in such a manner that this ultimate victory is achieved. He urged his followers to live a full and useful life in this world, to appreciate all things that are good and beautiful in creation, not only to do good and desist from evil but also to fight evil, and to make others happy. He assured his followers that the strength of God would be given to those who fought evil, and stressed that an evil deed could be offset by a good one. As for happiness, the way to seek happiness was by making others happy.

    He pointed out that in each of us there is a divine spark. It is up to us to recognize this divine spark or essence within us, to understand its capabilities and to try and so conduct ourselves that we reach the state of perfection in this world. As a practical guide for daily life, his prescription was simple:


    https://zamwi.org/zoroastrianism/


    Zarathushtra emphasized free choice.


    According to Zarathushtra, the world is a battleground between the forces of good and evil ... of free choices.


    The 'battle' of good and evil, or personal 'jihad', is not a Universal, Cosmic one. It only pertains to humans so far.



    The fire which Zoroastrianism uses could be in reference to the 'burning bush fire' which Moses encountered.
     
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    According to Zarathushtra, the world is a battleground between the forces of good and evil. Ultimately, good will prevail over evil. The mission in life is to conduct oneself in such a manner that this ultimate victory is achieved. He urged his followers to live a full and useful life in this world, to appreciate all things that are good and beautiful in creation, not only to do good and desist from evil but also to fight evil, and to make others happy. He assured his followers that the strength of God would be given to those who fought evil, and stressed that an evil deed could be offset by a good one. As for happiness, the way to seek happiness was by making others happy.

    He pointed out that in each of us there is a divine spark. It is up to us to recognize this divine spark or essence within us, to understand its capabilities and to try and so conduct ourselves that we reach the state of perfection in this world. As a practical guide for daily life, his prescription was simple:



    In the times of Zoroaster, between 1500 and 500 bce, how would these principles have been applicable? What was considered evil and good in those days? How could his followers have lived a full and useful life, to appreciate all things that are good and to desist from evil. How were they able to make others 'happy'?


    Besides... Wasn't the king of Babylon, King Nebuchadnezzar, of this religion?
     
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    Still. Isn't it strange how Ahura Mazda allows for others to have their eyes plucked out and to extinguish life all because he, Ahura Mazda, is not being bowed down to?

    Although the Sacred words probably speak against such practices in any and every Sacred Religion, why does God not stop wrong practices in each and every Sacred Religion?

    Why would HE want HIS Name ascribed to any Religion that practices such things?

    Then what about all the killings of Canaan? What about all the killings mentioned in The Holy Bible Old Testament?

    So, they are enslaved for 400 years. They are taken out into the desert to be met by the Amalekites who seek to destroy them in the desert. After this they sojourn in the desert. They ask permission to cross certain lands and are willing to pay/purchase even the water they will drink. They are refused permission and have to re sojourn in the desert. When they cross over into the Promised Land, they are met with more opposition. They didn't take spears or weapons out from Egypt when they left, so what were they defending themselves with? So to talk about killings might be talking of self defenses and not attacks.


    With Zoroastrianism and Christianity and Islam, why is it wrong to 'defend' against attacks? Why is it wrong to fight against 'evil' and against 'attacks'?

    These defenses today are known as National Security. What is wrong with upholding and defending National Security?
     
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    What kind of Security can any Nation have with many Ibleeses within them?

    7:12 [Satan] said, "I am better than him.


    Pranks. What is a prank? A joking?

    [Satan] said, "I am better than him".

    Had [Satan] said, "I'm better than him", would that have changed anything?

    Who IS I AM?

    Exodus 3:14 "And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you."



    Is [Satan] pulling a prank when he/she says, "I am better than him"? Because of course God is Greater than man.


    Unfortunately, these pranks has cost many their innocent lives. So why does the I AM, God, allow for such human pranks such as 'I am greater than him'

    And don't forget the [Satan] worshipers. They worship a prankster. They give up their own 'good' future in lieu for 'blood drinking', vampirism, living sexually immorally, engaging in criminalities, enticing others to join in, kidnapping, raping, murdering, to mention a few things they think/believe this [Satan] being is about.

    Number 1: There is NO fallen Real Holy Angel. [Satan] is a human being, the number of a 'man'. etc.... There is NO fallen Holy Angel.


    These days, any Female to Male person could be considered to be this 'man', [Satan].
     
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    It would seem to me that two vowels would equate to two syllables. I think it would sound something like Yehvah.. Hard to know for sure though, cause they didn't make recordings back then.
     
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    Daniel 11:36-39 "And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done. 37Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all. 38But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things. 39Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain."


    Neither shall 'he' regard his ancestors' God nor shall he regard the desire of women.

    Who is 'woman' but not his wife? He shall not even regard the desires of his own wife, if he has one.


    He will honour a God of forces with every gold and silver and precious stone which his very own heritage never knew.

    What is gold and silver and precious stones? Nuclear producers. God of forces = Nuclear Force.

    And with nuclear Force, he will divide the land for personal gain.

    His fathers never even heard of Nuclear Force. Nuclear Force was not engineered until 1932.

    The discovery of the neutron in 1932 revealed that atomic nuclei were made of protons and neutrons, held together by an attractive force. By 1935 the nuclear force was conceived to be transmitted by particles called mesons.

    The nuclear force has been at the heart of nuclear physics ever since the field was born in 1932 with the discovery of the neutron by James Chadwick. The traditional goal of nuclear physics is to understand the properties of atomic nuclei in terms of the 'bare' interaction between pairs of nucleons, or nucleon–nucleon forces (NN forces).

    Within months after the discovery of the neutron, Werner Heisenberg[8][9][10] and Dmitri Ivanenko[11] had proposed proton–neutron models for the nucleus.[12] Heisenberg approached the description of protons and neutrons in the nucleus through quantum mechanics, an approach that was not at all obvious at the time. Heisenberg's theory for protons and neutrons in the nucleus was a "major step toward understanding the nucleus as a quantum mechanical system."[13] Heisenberg introduced the first theory of nuclear exchange forces that bind the nucleons. He considered protons and neutrons to be different quantum states of the same particle, i.e., nucleons distinguished by the value of their nuclear isospin quantum numbers.

    One of the earliest models for the nucleus was the liquid drop model developed in the 1930s. One property of nuclei is that the average binding energy per nucleon is approximately the same for all stable nuclei, which is similar to a liquid drop. The liquid drop model treated the nucleus as a drop of incompressible nuclear fluid, with nucleons behaving like molecules in a liquid. The model was first proposed by George Gamow and then developed by Niels Bohr, Werner Heisenberg and Carl Friedrich von Weizsäcker. This crude model did not explain all the properties of the nucleus, but it did explain the spherical shape of most nuclei. The model also gave good predictions for the nuclear binding energy of nuclei.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_force



    Those alive before the year 1932 would not have heard of any such Nuclear Force... And so noone before the year 1932 would have 'worshiped', in any sense of idolatry, any such Force.
     
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    How else is Nuclear Force/Energy supposed to be created if not for God's provisions and permissions to use His gold, silver and precious stones and pleasant things?

    Even The Messiah, (J)esus, The son of Mary, needed permission to create 'forces'.

    3:49 And [make him] a messenger to the Children of Israel, [who will say], 'Indeed I have come to you with a sign from your Lord in that I design for you from clay [that which is] like the form of a bird, then I breathe into it and it becomes a bird by permission of Allah . And I cure the blind and the leper, and I give life to the dead - by permission of Allah . And I inform you of what you eat and what you store in your houses. Indeed in that is a sign for you, if you are believers.
     
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    Ibleeses.. 'I need nothing more then just myselfs'...


    Why are there those that rely on Nuclear Energy more than God?

    Because the Earth has over 7.6 billion individual lives on it. Without mankind using their intelligence to provide for the 7.6 billion persons, all might become extinct. So the real matter is not on if you serve God or some self exalted King but the matter is how to tend to life; all life.

    One suggestion?

    Grains in place of animal flesh.

    It takes 2,500 gallons of water, 12 pounds of grain, 35 pounds of topsoil and the energy equivalent of one gallon of gasoline to produce one pound of feedlot beef.

    http://www.earthsave.org/environment.htm


    Each year an estimated 41 million tons of plant protein is fed to U.S. livestock to produce an estimated 7 million tons of animal protein for human consumption.

    41 million tons = 41,000,000 x 2 per each million pound = 82,000,000,000 (billion) pounds.
    7 million tons = 7,000,000 x 2 per each million pound = 14,000,000,000 (billion) pounds

    There are 7 billion livestock animals in the United States.

    "If all the grain currently fed to livestock in the United States were consumed directly by people, the number of people who could be fed would be nearly 800 million," David Pimentel, professor of ecology in Cornell University's College of Agriculture and Life Sciences, reported at the July 24-26 meeting of the Canadian Society of Animal Science in Montreal. Or, if those grains were exported, it would boost the U.S. trade balance by $80 billion a year, Pimentel estimated.

    http://news.cornell.edu/stories/1997/08/us-could-feed-800-million-people-grain-livestock-eat


    14 billion pounds of beef being produced each year? 14 billion ? That's 38,356,164.38 (million) pounds being produced each day.
     
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    In 2013, the meat and poultry industry processed:
    8.6 billion chickens
    33.2 million cattle

    239.4 million turkeys
    2.3 million sheep and lambs
    112 million hogs


    In 2013, American meat companies produced:
    25.8 billion pounds of beef
    23.2 billion pounds of pork
    5.8 billion pounds of turkey
    286 million pounds of veal, lamb and mutton
    38.4 billion pounds of chicken


    Is this saying that 33.2 million cattle produced 25.8 billion pounds of beef in 2013?

    You'll only get two tri-tip roasts, each weighing about 1 ½ pounds from that 750 pound carcass. So, to summarize: A 1200 steer, ½ inch fat, average muscling, yields a 750 pound carcass. The 750 pound carcass yields approximately: 490 pounds boneless trimmed beef.


    This along with the fat and bone removed during the cutting account for an additional 18% loss. In summary, a steer weighing 1,000 pounds on the hoof will average around 430 pounds of retail cuts (steaks, roasts, ground beef, stew beef, etc.).



    http://igrow.org/livestock/beef/how-much-meat-can-you-expect-from-a-fed-steer/

    https://www.oda.state.ok.us/food/fs-cowweight.pdf

    https://www.meatinstitute.org/index.php?ht=d/sp/i/47465/pid/47465



    In 2013, the meat and poultry industry processed: 33.2 million cattle
    In 2013, American meat companies produced: 25.8 billion pounds of beef

    Does this require mental astuteness or is this part of NAMI?



    Each year an estimated 41 million tons of plant protein is fed to U.S. livestock to produce an estimated 7 million tons of animal protein for human consumption.


    7 million tons = 7,000,000 x 2 per each million pound = 14,000,000,000 (billion) pounds
     
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    NAMI Websites


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    https://www.meatinstitute.org/index.php?ht=d/sp/i/47465/pid/47465



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    https://www.nami.org/namiwalks


    Am I proud to be an American? Should I be?


    "Proud To Be An American"

    If tomorrow all the things were gone I'd worked for all my life,
    And I had to start again with just my children and my wife.
    I'd thank my lucky stars to be living here today,
    'Cause the flag still stands for freedom and they can't take that away.

    And I'm proud to be an American where at least I know I'm free.
    And I won't forget the men who died, who gave that right to me.
    And I'd gladly stand up next to you and defend her still today.
    'Cause there ain't no doubt I love this land God bless the U.S.A.

    From the lakes of Minnesota, to the hills of Tennessee,
    Across the plains of Texas, from sea to shining sea,

    From Detroit down to Houston and New York to LA,
    Well, there's pride in every American heart,
    And it's time we stand and say:

    I'm proud to be an American where at least I know I'm free.
    And I won't forget the men who died, who gave that right to me.
    And I'd gladly stand up next to you and defend her still today.
    'Cause there ain't no doubt I love this land! God bless the U.S.A.

    And I'm proud to be an American where at least I know I'm free.
    And I won't forget the men who died, who gave that right to me.
    And I'd gladly stand up... next to you and defend her still today.
    'Cause there ain't no doubt I love this land God bless the U.S.A.


    https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/leegreenwood/proudtobeanamerican.html
     
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    There are 6,278 federally inspected meat and poultry slaughtering and processing plants in the U.S.
     
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    Why could there be such high numbers of mental numbness in The U.S and what could some of the causes be?

    #1: Too many off shoot pranksters dealing with important information to need to deal with on a daily basis. The hiring managers should be the ones in charge of correcting wrong information before posting it up for general viewages, right?


    Let's take a look at a basic easy to read 'misprint' or something like that that is often overlooked, swept away as if a reliable person agreed to its safeness but which causes mental numbness.

    Acts 1:13 "And when they were come in, they went up into an upper room, where abode both Peter, and James, and John, and Andrew, Philip, and Thomas, Bartholomew, and Matthew, James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon Zelotes, and Judas the brother of James." -KJV

    Luke 6:16 "And Judas the brother of James, and Judas Iscariot, which also was the traitor." -KJV


    Acts 1:13 "When they arrived, they went upstairs to the room where they were staying. Those present were Peter, John, James and Andrew; Philip and Thomas, Bartholomew and Matthew; James son of Alphaeus and Simon the Zealot, and Judas son of James." -NIV

    Luke 6:16 "Judas son of James, and Judas Iscariot, who became a traitor." -NIV


    John 6:71 "He spake of Judas Iscariot the son of Simon: for he it was that should betray him, being one of the twelve." -KJV

    (He meant Judas, the son of Simon Iscariot, who, though one of the Twelve, was later to betray him.) -NIV


    Luke 6:13-16 "And when it was day, he called unto him his disciples: and of them he chose twelve, whom also he named apostles; 1 Simon, (whom he also named Peter,) and 2 Andrew his brother, 3 James and 4 John, 5 Philip and 6 Bartholomew, 15 7 Matthew and 8 Thomas, 9 James the son of Alphaeus, and 10 Simon called Zelotes, 16 And 11 Judas the brother of James, and 12 Judas Iscariot, which also was the traitor."


    But if Judas is the brother of James, why does the NIV call Judas the son of James?
     
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    The numbing of the brain and mind and its senses and keen-ess. And how many Church Congregations have discarded their more Established KJV Holy Bibles they were using and replaced them with the current NIV?

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    Could the KJV have been more Lawful towards God when it came to certain kinds of 'foods' which they ate?

    Even the Holy Qur'an has certain things on Lawful food(s).

    3:49 And [make him] a messenger to the Children of Israel, [who will say], 'Indeed I have come to you with a sign from your Lord in that I design for you from clay [that which is] like the form of a bird, then I breathe into it and it becomes a bird by permission of Allah. And I cure the blind and the leper, and I give life to the dead - by permission of Allah. And I inform you of what you eat and what you store in your houses. Indeed in that is a sign for you, if you are believers.
     
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    1 Corinthians 10:23-25 "All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not. 24Let no man seek his own, but every man another's wealth. 25Whatsoever is sold in the shambles, that eat, asking no question for conscience sake: "


    Okay.. All things are lawful.. Okay.. and? Does the law prohibit me from drinking 12 percent alcohol? Does the Law prevent me from sleeping in? Am I living under some tyrannical rule? Does the law prohibit me from wearing almost nothing in public? What does the Law forbid? Even certain sexual crimes are excusable by law. And in some States, police discretion is given to enforce or excuse 'law stops'.


    All things are lawful for me. But what aren't lawful? What are some things that are not lawful?

    it might be Lawful in some countries to buy human flesh from the shambles.


    1 Corinthians 14:36 "What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?"


    Are you, or he or she or we or they the ONLY ones the word of God came unto and for?
     
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    Do these lacks, in supposedly Proper Teaching places, have any effect on Domestic Violence in any way?

    • On average, nearly 20 people per minute are physically abused by an intimate partner in the United States. During one year, this equates to more than 10 million women and men.1
    https://ncadv.org/statistics

    Example: A women ought not speak in Church. And if they want to learn, they should ask their husbands at home.

    1 Corinthians 14:34-35 "Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. 35And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church."



    Okay.. so a woman remains quiet in Church and when she gets home inquires as to why The Holy Bible recommends her to be silent in the Church? But because the husband does not have an answer but is trying to make it through a difficult situation himself, and because of her possible complaints on how she is not allowed to speak in Church, the husband might act out in some kind of physical violence.

    Why? There are no answers being given. Only opinions and interpretations and ideas.
     
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    And so the news gets back to the Pastor or Preacher and he responds by teaching the congregation that 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 is outdated and that each husband and wife couple should feel free to do as they like in a respectable manner in Church. Now the Pastor or Preacher is found to have broken 1 Corinthians 14:34-35. And this gets to the Heads of Diocese and Conferences and soon the entire Denomination has changed 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 to a man made commandment.

    Matthew 15:9 "But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men."


    And so the desire to know 'why' a woman should not speak in Church is still unanswered. Besides it being the Law of God, why would it be harmful or bad for a woman to speak in Church? Each Commandment of God is given because it is healthy for the person to follow. It is not harmful nor difficult but helpful and beneficial.

    So why is 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 there in the first place. How many female Christians might there have been in Corinth when The Apostle Paul wrote this Epistle?
     
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    Ephesians 4:11-12
    "And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
    For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:"

    1 Timothy 3:1 "This is a true saying, if a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work."

    1 Timothy 3:8 "Likewise must the deacons be grave,"


    Some apostles. some prophets. some evangelists. some pastors.. some teachers. some bishops. some deacons.

    James 3:1 "My brethren, be not many masters, knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation."

    1 Corinthians 14:34-35 "Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. 35And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church."


    Would a wife of a husband have a desire to lord it over him from within an office of higher authority?


    for it is a shame for woman to have authority over her husband.
     
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