Your Opinions on Dealing With Homosexual People

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  1. SpotsCat

    SpotsCat New Member Past Donor

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    How I handle it depends upon the other person and their attitude towards their sexuality.

    If I meet someone who is "closeted", I don't know about their sexual orientation, and it doesn't effect me.

    If I meet someone who is gay but doesn't make a big deal of it, I don't either.

    If I meet someone who is flamboyantly gay and open about their sexuality, I go along with it.
     
  2. submarinepainter

    submarinepainter Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I once was very anti homosexual until I was invited to my neighbors house for a party , these 2 wonderful people showed me that Homosexuals and Heterosexuals have the same outlook on life , they worry about the kids college , rush to get them to sporting events , attend teacher conferences and struggle to pay the bills!!
     
  3. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    Why would anyone treat them differently than anyone else? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. People are people regardless of race, ethnic origin, gender or sexual orientation,

    Do people really go out of their way to find an excuse for different forms of discrimination?
     
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    Unfortunately, I've known far too many well educated people who are ignorant enough on gay issues to accept it at face value. So no, I don't take that for granted.

    Fools have proven quite adept at 'educating' each other. Intelligence is no guarantee of wisdom.
     
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    Perriquine On hiatus Past Donor

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    Indeed they do, but no one said it was sensible.
     
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    I'm rude and surly with everyone, gays included.
     
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    submarinepainter Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    some folks like being roughed up lol+
     
  8. xsited1

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    Better tell the ACLU since they represented NAMBLA in Curley v. NAMBLA and were successful in getting the suit dismissed.
     
  9. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    Strange but I've never heard of any gays or lesbians demanding "special rights" but they do address rights that they are being denied based upon discriminatory laws.
     
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    submarinepainter Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    that has been my experience also
     
  11. dixon76710

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    Marriage for one. Matrimony, Latin root of the word mater, MOTHER. "matrimonium is an institution involving a mother, mater. The idea implicit in the word is that a man takes a woman in marriage, in matrimonium ducere, so that he may have children by her.". The gays want an exception made for them because they are gay. Special rules for special people.
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    No, they are demanding equal rights under the law related to a personal partnership. Since many government benefits, such as being able to file a joint tax return, Social Security benefits, and inheritance are tied to the legal institution of marriage they seek equality in treatment related to it. There is no demand for "special rights" but instead the demand is for "equal rights" under the law.

    If there were no laws that afforded special rights related to marriage that were not also granted to anyone involved in a personal partnership with another individual then there would be a valid case related to the word "marriage" but as it is with literally thousands of laws that restrict benefits to the legal institution of "marriage" to obtain those rights the simpliest option is to address the legal institution of marriage.

    Personally I'd rather see the legal institution of marriage abolished and all personal partnerships treated identically under contract law. Contract law is completely nondiscriminatory and then the issue of the legal institution of marriage, which is discriminatory, would never be an issue.
     
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    At least you're consistent... :D
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    No discrimination going on here. LOL
     
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    Here in America, the married and unmarried dont have "equal rights" but instead unequal rights by design. Equal rights would involve making marriage available to any two consenting adults, but that isnt what they advocate for, they want "gay marriage". Special rights for gays.
     
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    Why don't same-sex couples have the identical Rights and opposite-sex couples? They share incomes just like their opposite-sex counterparts. They raise children just like their opposite-sex counterparts. They jointly purchase homes just like their opposite-sex counterparts.

    In fact we have the California State Supreme Court and the 9th Curcuit Court that agree that same-sex couples are involved in virtually the identical personal relationships and that the laws do discriminate against them. Both courts have ruled that this discrimination violates the equal protection clause and that it is unjustifiable. The supporters of the ban on same-sex marriage in California, which is what both the California State Supreme Court and the 9th Curcuit Court have ruled on, offered no justification for why there should be legal discrimination against same-sex couples.

    So why are they discriminated against not only by many in society but also under the laws of the United States when the US Constitution prohibits it?
     
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    and why can't a single person add a brother or sister to their medical policy if they elect to pay for the family plan?

    Why does a single person lose all SS benefits if they die prior to ever collecting?

    Single people get the shaft all the time yet here we are asking about those who have gay sex but there are many more single people than gay people.

    Oh, nothing stops any 2 people from purchasing real estate together

    having gay sex does not eliminate the various ownership options that can be chosen with respect to legal contracts
     
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    Be careful when playing soccer with gay men. If you're tailing a player on another team trying to get the ball, then try to kick the ball and miss, you might get your foot stuck some place unpleasant for a very long time.
     
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    Biology and the constitution.





    Any two people could do these things. Why the special treatment for gays? Its not like gay parents are some kind of second best alternative to children being provided and cared for by their biological parents. Probably more children being raised right now by their single mother and widowed or divorced grandmother than have ever been raised by gay couples. But they arent gay, they dont rub genitals like a real mom and dad so no special rights reserved for the homosexuals for them.
     
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    I'm a homosexual, does dealing with myself count?

    Honestly over the years I have met a few gay people that I didn't like. They were the more stereotypical individuals who seemed to think that being flamboyant was just fabulously fun. I really couldn't stand that kind of behavior.
     
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    I would say wholeheartedly yes if you have a case of Dissociative identity disorder, unless your multiples were not gay.
     
  22. Johnny-C

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    Have you noticed that gay people are continually asking that very question? Sadly, the answers FOR people mistreating homosexuals are myriad... despite the lack of logic which accompanies them.

    There is nothing new about the horrible mindsets/attitudes which stem from ignorance, fear and hatred. It seldom makes real sense.

    (see the above)
     
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    No, you asked how they should be treated. Suggesting by your very question that you expect special treatment for special people.
     
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    1) I don't know who your "many others" are, but I appear to be the only one who has reacted to it in this thread. Your ad populum appeal is noted.
    2) I actually have a very wicked sense of humor. I just don't find jokes based on anti-gay stereotypes humorous, since they promote hate and distort reality.

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    Snipey. Whiney. Petty. Pot stirrers. Chip on a shoulder. Non stop squeaky wheels, etc. That is the males I have observed this behavior. Females no noticable difference in my relations with them, pretty much the same as heteros.

    I figure their struggle regarding societal pressures of being aggresive regarding their "being out and in your face about it" transcribed over into other areas of their life when dealing with people.

    No difference for me dealing with reality of gays. I shake hands, banter with them, tell them they are liberal leftist lunatics just like I tell a hetero liberal leftist lunatics.

    Rarely step into hardline discussions about their homosexuality, unless they bring it up, which they don't do because all my contacts regarding homosexuals is acquaintance/work based. No homosexuals in family or friends.
     

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