Your political ideology

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  1. DZero

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    Ideology is a human term for algorithm , if A do B and else C then do D. I subscribe to practicality, adaptability, and flexibility. Thus ideology does not fit me.
     
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    I asked what ideology fits your views best. If you can't answer that, then give me a clue on how you think society should be organized.
    I honestly think your just trying to make yourself look greater than the rest by not subscribing to any ideology. I am sure there is one that is pretty close to your views.
     
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    If you subscribe to practicality, I would like to know how society should really be organized based on your practical views. The truth is, you don't know, you have your biased views like anyone else.
     
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    There is no formula, you take it as it comes. Society should be organized based on the tasks and challenges it faces, not by some philosophical drive toward the achievable utopia.
     
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    So, its that you support the current status quo, and don't have faith in other goals. You still have an ideology though(one similar/compatible with the current state of affairs).
     
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    I do not think I ever said I supported the status quo.
     
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    You don't have to. You said society should be organized based on the tasks and challenges it faces. So, you clearly reject ideologies like communism(since it would be radical change). You want a society similar to one now, right?
     
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    I think our current ideology is better then Communism, but still is defined by its Dogmatic ideology. I would prefer a system that is pragmatic not algorithmic.
     
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    Classical liberalism. Not the American perversion of it.
     
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    The perversion's not limited to the US, Gaius.
     
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    I like market economics. My socialist tendencies have been a reaction to capitalist distortions and outright destruction of markets. But that works both ways and I'm realistic enough to know that free markets have never come close to existing for more than an afternoon.
     
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    Gonna take a lot of explaining, but the best way I could describe it is libertarian (left non-market leaning, not the American kool-aid version). I am also minarchistic in my opinion on the government, so a propose more a more federational system. Anarchism is not possible to go to directly, since it would leave a proliterian (lol so old-fashioned) revolution open for invasion (as was the case with Catalonia and Ukraine). But I don't support Vanguardism or more authoritarian standpoints either.

    Marxism for me has become too dogmatic, and the labor theory of value is also a pretty

    I don't like capitalism, but I don't hate it. I merely see it as a part of our 500,000 years of history as the human race. It certainly has become softer in western countries, but the exploitation and other imbedded things still are going on. Something post-capitalistic with a fair opportunity for each individual would be best.

    I also really am getting into individualist philosophy as well, I particularly like the ideas of Max Stirner. He is a very good read, initially I was hostile to individualist thought. But now I see that it is also pretty cool, although a little self-centered.

    On to religion, I am an adherent of Bektashism. Which is a sect of Sufi Islam that is extremely liberal in its stances so no need for prayers, pork restrictions, even alchohol is permitted (although I don't eat pork because I don't like the taste and I don't drink because I don't like myself to be not in control of my own body). One of the things I like about it is that they are also quite rational and self-criticising, they make good jokes.

    I have to read more into morality though, that has really peaked my interest in it.

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    You should really look into Market socialism and Mutualism, left leaning markets is always something that has fascinated me. Although I don't subscribe to it.
     
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    So like Adam Smith and John Locke? What about Hayek and Friedman?

    What do you mean by American distortion?
     
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    What's algorithm a human term for?

    Interesting to see one subscribe to means. Not only that, but ill-defined generally useless means.

    I'm a libertarian.
     
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    Locke, Mill and Popper.
    Neoliberalism.
     
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    I believe in ziggyfishism.
     
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    I have an MBA but I don't consider myself an economist. I am of the opinion that we in the US like to conflate capitalism with market economics and I tend to think the two are almost mutually exclusive - to the point that good capitalists seek to destroy markets to the extent possible, even preventing entry into markets by new players. Reasonable?
     

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