Youth Who Think They're Too Young to Buy Guns....

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  1. Greataxe

    Greataxe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Recently, there has been a conversation about raising the legal age to buy any firearm in America to 21. Those under 21 are deemed too young, too ignorant, too under-developed mentally to drink, buy cigarettes, rent cars, gamble and now purchase or carry firearms. Many young political activists themselves are saying that they are too young to buy guns----however, how many of those same young activists would say they are likewise too young to vote? Does anyone in here support taking away firearms rights to those 18-20, yet keeping their right to vote?
     
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    ... and also to join the marines and fight and die for the country......
     
  3. Greataxe

    Greataxe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I joined the Army at 17. Wouldn't it be nice if they had an intelligence test to be allowed to vote? Those with Borderline intelligence below IQ of 80 are really too dumb to vote---however, that would deprive the Dem Party of at least 25% of it's core base.
     
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    Unfortunately, there are many adults stuck at age 17 until they’re about 50, so age might be a difficult yardstick.

    But we could extend waiting periods for those under 21, make some types of weapons illegal to buy, and limit ammunition.

    The Constitution guarantees the right to be armed, it doesn’t guarantee the right to every weapon that is ever built.
     
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    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

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    And disqualify 50% of the Republican base - so be careful what you wish for.
     
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    We need to stop focusing on guns. Guns have been in our hands for hundred of years. School shootings just started. We need to be honest if we are looking for a solution -- ie, what has changed? And what would have stopped/prevented each and every school shooting. Logical problem solving is in order by those who can reason and do not have a political agenda.
     
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    Greataxe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well the guns we have now are really no better than the guns one could buy without restriction before 1968. Only ammo is vastly superior to what it was back then. The guns have hardly changed. There were hardly any mass shootings before the last 20 years here. So what's changed?

    ---the guns? No

    ---ammo? Yes. However, I'd rather be shot with a full metal jacket round than a modern hollow point with the same firearm.

    ---the people and culture? Yes, Multicultural, paganized, liberalized America does not have the unifying culture it once had.

    ---the law and mental health? Yes, the liberalization of the criminal justice system and depletion of mental health hospitals has allowed dangerous nuts to be able to roam the streets.

    My solution: preserve Western culture, punish the felons, and lock up the dangerous nuts. Gun control is a failure.
     
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    I feel bad for those under 21 (often poor, not living in the best neighborhoods) who won't be able to purchase a gun for protection.
     
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    Voting is supporting what benefits you. And it doesn't pose a danger to the public.

    The military takes advantage of the underdeveloped brains of young men. Young, dumb and full of cum - that's why they take children to do the fighting. I don't support that either. If the nation was under attack, that's different. But unless a draft is required, you should have to be 21 to join the military. What the military does amounts to murder. And they brainwash children to do it. That is what boot camp is all about. It is a standard technique used by cults. Break them down and then build them up with the proper brainwashing.

    How many young men and women died for Bush's inane blunder? How many lives torn apart? Over 4000 dead, tens of thousands injured and permanently damaged; from lost limbs and brain injuries, to PTSD.
     
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    The Congress gave kids the right to vote at 18 because they were being drafted at 18 as well.

    Has nothing to do with guns.

    Kids under 25 should not own guns.
     
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    Your causation argument is pretty thin. The number of violent crimes during the "liberal" era of Obama was less than that of the Reagan era. Police fatalities have dropped since the 1970's and are much lower than in the 1920's and 30's. In fact - violent crime rates today are about the same as they were in 1915.

    So I think you have your rose-colored glasses strapped a little too tight when you start talking about the "good old days,".
     
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    See post #3
     
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    It's a culture problem. Guns just don't walk around and kill indiscriminately. I've never seen a gun load itself before and start discharging projectiles. It's a people problem. Furthermore the media is responsible for glorifying murderers with non-stop, 24/7 around the clock reporting these incidences and rehashing it for weeks on end. It's like pouring gasoline on a smoldering brush fire with these whacked out pathological misfits that Darwin somehow missed culling at birth.
     
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    That's a roll of the dice I'd be willing to take.
     
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    I had my first gun lisence at 14. I wasn't old enough to buy one for myself but adults were allowed to buy them for me at that age.
     
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    So, from I'm seeing from your response, those under 21 are "useful idiots" that are okay to vote, as long as most of them vote for liberals?

    Also, the number of dead & wounded fighting since 9-11 in just a tiny fraction of those who died fighting in WW 2 and Vietnam. Wars that Democrats were itching to get into.
     
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    Dangerous people should not be allowed to wander around free to harm others, young or not. Repeat violent felons convicted of their 3rd + violent felony (armed robbery, predatory rape, violent gang activity, assault, murder, etc.) should all be executed within months of their judgment.

    Mental hospitals need to be reactivated and those who are a danger, and not responding to treatment, committed. Bad kids with discipline issues should be sent to alternative schools or boot camps work programs.
     
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    This isn't the most accurate graph, because there wasn't the same ability of gather data before the 1960's. However, the big increase in crime happened from after the early 1960's with the liberalization of America. Gun control laws have never proven to be effective in America.
     
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    That's funny considering it's pretty much accepted as common knowledge that the more educated a person is the more they're likely to be Democrats.
     
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    Its just a way to try and take a mile. We are supposed to listen to 15 year olds talk about gun control.
     
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    1990 ???

    That's an easy one.

    Ecstasy.



    Sucked all the violence right out of them.
     
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    And white, oh and European.
     
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    Wrong again. You have a wealth of information at your finger tips. Google is your friend.
     
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    Yup, Americans have low education.
    It's common knowledge.

    I've been looking for the study I read in the newspaper the other week.
    Same crap different country.

    A load of people had been claiming Brexit supporters = thick and under educated compared to EU supporters.
    Cambridge University study concluded that was a load of bollocks. And yet, lefty after lefty has been proposing it.

    And that's what it is to be a superior lefty being.
    Like Hitler and the Germans were. You remember that part of your education I suppose?
     
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    I do believe that demographics tell the tale, with Blacks and Hispanics with the lowest scores being far and away the largest core groups of Dems.
     

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