Occasionally watch a gun review on youtube. Amazing what people know, and what can be learned. And some fun too. These folks will help in your efforts to control your guns. This fellow has been at it for some time. "Big ol' heavy gun...let's see if I can come up some excuses...for missing..."
Hickok has been reviewing firearms practically since the beginning of YT. At one point, YT was trying to ban his channel.
Yes, Hickock .45 is pretty nice, His Son is a bit....well.... I will be nice... This time, his Dad is a great shooter, and has a perfect range, and is really humble. He has lots of sponsers, Federal, sends him ammo, Bud's sends him guns, a few Class lll Dealers bring him great stuff to test, And some of his Guest shooters are of interest ! A must visit on anyone's list, call him if ypu are in Tennessee to make an appointment to see his great Range and woods ! You bring the cheap soda and Pot to smoke ! No, not M.M. ! Big Ugly Cheap Crocks to shoot at, The type Bowerbird tells you to throw at would be Assailants ! lol !
I've fired the M1-G in some shooting club contests. It is a heavy gun and the recoil does not feel great. But it is not as bad as my 300 RUM. However I don't fire my 300 more than a few times on the sighting-in range and probably only once or twice during hunting season. The purpose of the M1-G was for long range WW1 type combat, but used during WW2. During WW2 the Germans went to the STG which was a prototype AK-47 carbine. After WW1 long range rifle gunnery pretty much subsided until Afghanistan. For A-stan the USMC re-introduced their vintage M-14's which the U.S. Navy had been holding in storage for them.
The 30-06 of the M1-G is overpowered for normal infantry work. The 308 is more than sufficient to reach out to 1,000 yards if need be. The 308 is optimum at 250 to 750 yards. That's what A-stan needed/needs. Ergo the M-14 or the AR-10 is perfect for desert infantry ops.
I thought the 30-06 and 308 were pretty close as far as power and bullet drop. If so, the 308 being shorter has an advantage.
From my experience the .30-06 is typically 100 fps faster at the muzzle than the .308 for the same size bullet.
There isn’t much practical difference between the two calibers. .308 are boat tail and the m-2 ball we’re not.
Just for clarification, the ‘06 hunting ammo of today and the m-2 for use in the garand of years past are not the same. Without modifying a garand, you will damage the op-rod if you put modern ammo in it. Different pressure curves and all.
You are correct, I bent many an Op rod, finally I learned how to heat them up and optimize the bow, I still downloaded the ammo and used a recommended powder to avoid damage.
Precisely. My point is that the 308 is sufficient and the 30-06 is overpowered for everything except elk.
Wrong again, 30-06 is not over powered, it is just perfect for deer, and I like the 6.5-06 too. The advantage of the .308 is its shorter case and coal, so it can easily fit short actions, like small ring Mausers.
In theory, the -06 has more case capacity and can therefore load the same bullet to a higher velocity. In practice, the diversity of powders on the market mean you can pretty much duplicate any -06 load in a .308. The exception might be for the really heavy bullets, but when using for real, you'll use a 300 magnum of some sort, so it doesn't really matter.
I'm just going on basic comparative loads in my manuals. I'm pushing a 168 gr .308 to 2700 fps and in the .300 WSM it's up to 3220 fps.
For Palma/1000 in my M1A I use Lake City 173s or SMK 175s @ 2750. If I ever run out of these, I will try the Berger VLD 175s.
Yeah but no. What I am saying is there isn’t much power difference between the 7.62 X 51 used today and the 7.62 x 63 used in the garand of WWII. Going to the x51 wasn’t because of the need for reduced power, because the power really wasn’t reduced.
