ZDF - Islam - Effects on Germany

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  1. Jim Rockford

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    Seems that assimilation is not in the social make up of the Muslim immigrants. Strait from the mouths of Germans, take your info, not from the talking heads.

    https://youtu.be/KVWAIKoatWM
     
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    There are plenty of videos out there of what's happening in Germany that'd make your blood run cold.
     
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    One minute and I switched off. Got as far as "Yes, women belong to men". Neanderthal retards.
     
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    If you want to see what the country will eventually turn into, just take a look at the countries where all these migrants are coming from.
     
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    This is part of a longer docu that aired on tv some time ago.
    I'm not quite sure what it is with you self proclaimed experts, strangely enough very often from yankeeland.
    Watching a YT video makes you an expert on _______________ (insert topic here) and you seriously think now you know what's going on in Germany or any other part of the world?
    Big mess in Germany (Quote D. Trump who was too stupid to realise that Paris is in France and not in Germany. You want to tell me a country that allows such a lunatic to be a presidental candidate doesn't have a problem or two), Europe's gonna collapse soon, riots everywhere, governments lie to the people 24/7, women can't go out at night alone anymore, etc. I live here, and my life hasn't changed a bit (but I'm probably brainwashed as one super expert from Texas once claimed).

    Sure there are problems and I don't agree with Merkel's politics at all. I don't know what she was thinking when she basically welcomed app. 1 mill people, refugees and many so-called refugees, with open arms.
    Nevertheless, it's still a lot safer than in probably every bigger US city. How many shootings does Chicago alone have every week or weekend? Eight, ten, twelve? I know this is likely to turn into one of those childish my-country-is-better-than-your-country debates.

    Unless you haven't been here or have close contact with European/German friends, colleagues and get your info from a lot of different sources (which excludes Fox btw), you get maybe 5% of the picture on the situation. And by that I don't mean that in real life it's 95% worse than depicted in the media. Watching a few clips here and there isn't going to inform you in any way (but that's only imo).
    I have read so much BS on these forums especially from folks across the pond that I have a hard time taking them seriously. I have been lectured on health care in Germany, on the school system here, on the tax system, on the political landscape, etc, and all that from idiots who had no idea what they were talking about. No idea as in zero! Some of these goofballs seriously thought that WW I and WW II were conflicts within the EU.

    How would you yankees feel if I started lecturing you on US gun laws, US social inequality, health care in yankeeland, US foreign politics and those almost countless military interventions causing chaos and destruction, all in the name of freedom and liberty of course?

    Btw, in the opening of that YT clip, it says "left leaning German tv station ZDF."
    What utter nonsense. The ZDF is well known for being conservative and anything but left.
    Looking for left tv? Try the WDR.
     
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    Objection. A TV station establishing a "Refugee Television Broadcasting Station" from mandatory payments German tax payers are obliged to pay to that station (ZDF News in German with Arabic and English subtitles, exclusively produced for cell phones of refugees, program at www.arabic.zdf.de ), even being praised by the heir of the former "flagship" of journalism SPIEGEL, which he himself had turned into an ultra left propaganda pamphlet, for being "left in any case of doubt" and having the world's most government submissive, chancellor's boots licking and meticulous servile "news anchorman" even as chief of the editorial office is not even close to be "conservative". ZDF was conservative 10 years ago, but after chancellor Merkel overtook the social democrats on their left side, voters now having the choice between "left", "ultra left" and "left extreme", their popaganda loudspeaker ZDF painted everything in red and now most probably has its greatest fans in North Korea. One commentator from the "Free World Website" (translation below): Es ist in Deutschland schon lange Usus, dass jene Medienvertreter aussortiert werden, die sich zu offensichtlich dagegen wehren, den Steigbügelhalter für die Politik zu spielen. Im Konzert der Berliner Berichterstatter dürfen sie dann nicht mehr mitspielen. Oder sie werden gleich ganz entsorgt, wie Nikolaus Brender. Der ehemalige Chefredakteur des ZDF wurde 2010 auf Druck der Politik aus dem Amt gejagt, weil er den Sender zu unabhängig führte. Dazu stellte das Bundesverfassungsgericht im März 2014 fest, dass die Regelungen des ZDF-Staatsvertrages einen übermäßig großen staatlichen Einfluss ermöglichen. Geändert hat das Urteil wenig.
    It is common practice in Germany since long, to sort out journalists refusing to be servants of the government. In the Berlin reporter's chorus their voices are not permiited to sing anymore thereafter. Alternatively they are just dumped like N. Brender, chief journalist of the ZDF, being chased out of office by politicians for having led the TV station "too independantly". The highest constitutional court in 2014 ruled that state regulations permitted over excessive influence of the state on the ZDF. That however changed nothing.

    http://www.zdf.de/zdf/zdfarabic-zdfenglish-mobiles-angebot-fuer-fluechtlinge-41314154.html
    http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/s-p-o-n-im-zweifel-links-rettet-ard-und-zdf-a-767446.html
    http://www.freiewelt.net/blog/der-r...as-scheinheiliger-angriff-auf-polen-10064928/
     
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    I'm aware of the Nikolaus Brender case and think it was absolutely wrong and the CDU had no right to put more and more "party soldiers" into the administration board; but that doesn't make ZDF a left wing tv station. On the contrary, more and more people close to the CDU makes ZDF more conservative, unless you think that Merkel herself is far left which I don't. If she were left, what would the party Die Linke be? Ultra communist?
    Top journalist Wolfgang Herles criticized that the ZDF is too close to the government in a recent interview, so you're absolutely right that there is a problem.

    I don't agree with your notion that Merkel has overtaken her coalition partner, the social democrats, on the left and that voters now can choose between left, far left and extreme left. It occurs to me for you the only non left would be a person like Bavarian prime minister Seehofer, but we probably have a different perception of the political landscape.
    To me, Merkel is an extremely opportunistic person with only very little political backbone, but not far left.

    If you watch the docu in the OP 'til the end, you can see that it definitely criticizes the non existing migration law in Germany, looks at the Canadian law for reference, and also openly adresses the unwillingness of many migrants to adapt to their new country. A left tv station should and would do the exact opposite (IMO).
    This is the lady who made that docu openly criticizing parallel societies and new migrants that are not willing to accept German laws and the way of live in the country.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bX0x-C_DuA
    German language skills needed.

    One major problem (IMO) is that Germany doesn't have a migration law that clearly definies who is migrant and who isn't, and who has the right to enter the country and who not. Right now, pretty much anybody can come, hand in their papers and wait up to 10 months until their case has been cleared. To me, it would make much more sense to learn from the Canadian system. Germany has a well documented history of migration from the 60s up to now and it has never really worked well, exception being Russian - Germans who came from former Soviet states in the early 90s.
     

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