Zimmerman is not a white man he is a brown man

Discussion in 'Race Relations' started by WanRen, Jul 17, 2013.

  1. AKS

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    Ah, got it. You can only do your job as a neighborhood watch captain if the person acting suspiciously is not black. Makes perfect sense. BTW, how the hell can you be so sure that the ONLY reason Zimmerman was following Martin was because he was black? Zimmerman had black friends, a black grandparent, worked with black children. Not that that proves that he wasn't racist per se, but it's certainly not the profile of your typical d-bag supremacist.
     
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    These people saying these things are pot stirring racists. Ignore them, it's all they deserve.
     
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    Agreed, and I'm sure if he knew then what he knows now he would have stayed in his car. BUT the fact that he made a poor choice and got out of his car does not in any way give Martin license to beat him. That really is the bottom line here, and I don't understand what all of the fuss is about.
     
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    Any watchman, Cop, or what have you, if informed a certain group has been terrorizing a certain area would be viewed as suspicious. Is this prejudice?, racism? or common sense?

    I have been followed in a Gated community in Florida, I didn't punch the guy. Seemed pretty normal to me since I was visiting and did not look familiar., then again I did not look at the guy as a white ass Cracker, or a rapist...

    Should I have?, or would that have been prejudice?
     
  5. Nunya D.

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    That little dog you are holding looks damn suspicious, though. :mrgreen:
     
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    Yes it's prejudice. It may be racism if the group targeted is based on race. Yes, it's common sense.

    From the perspective of law enforcement, profiling makes sense, but that doesn't make it ok.

    Profiling violates the rights of the vast majority of people who fall within a group.
     
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    Why not? Following someone from a distance is not a crime, it is not against the law and if you are a concerned member of your community and perceive certain activity to be suspicious, following from a distance is actually a fairly responsible thing to do--so that in the event that your suspicions are confirmed and a crime is committed or someone begins to break the law, you can observe the perps behavior, description, etc. and report that information to the authorities. This is what Zimmerman was doing.

    Again, I re-iterate, it's not illegal, there's nothing wrong with it. If the person being followed feels unsafe or threatened, they have multiple options with which to act in terms of their suspicions that the person following them is up to no good. Those include calling the police, putting a lot of distance in between the person following them and themselves, finding a crowded or public place with other people around, finding the nearest friendly residence and knocking on the door/ringing the doorbell--or in Martin's case especially--simply going to his temporary place of residence, locking the door and determining from there on how to proceed.

    Someone truly "frightened" or "intimidated" by the person following would have done any of these things, especially considering that it is clear that Zimmerman lost sight of Martin and Martin could have easily been all the way home without Zimmerman even seeing which condo unit he entered. But he didn't. Somehow, despite him having more than enough time to get there without being seen, the confrontation happened further back than it should have, indicating that Martin did one of a few different things--waited in hiding for Zimmerman and confronted him, walked to where Zimmerman was and confronted him, etc. This negates the ridiculous concept that Martin was "fearful" of Zimmerman or truly "intimidated" by Zimmerman, it is atypical for someone who is fearing another individual to walk straight up to that individual or wait for that individual to reach a certain point and then confront them and end up "ground and pound"ing them, typical behavior associated with fear or intimidation of another individual involves getting other people--such as the authorities--involved, getting to a safe or public place, etc.
     
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    No the racist thing is to assume that someone named Zimmerman is white and therefore had to have been a racist, profiled and murdered a poor black kid. As you did.

    That is no different than some white guy hearing about an alleged rape and assuming assuming that the accused named Tyrone has to be black and therefor has to have raped that white woman.

    You are no different.
     
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    You do realize that there is a difference between "profiling" and "racial profiling", don't you?
     
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    There isn't really a difference. The only difference is the trait used to profile. Any profiling is wrong as it violates the rights of those being profiled.
     
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    Do you realize that you "profile" people every single day of your life?

    Do you automatically trust used car salesmen? Do you trust lawyers? Do you trust white guys that follow black kids?

    Everybody "profiles". It is a human trait that a person can not avoid. It is how we survive.
     
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    Boo hoo.

    Tell black males to stop doing the things that get their people profiled.

    If white folks profiled everyone who wasn't white, you'd have a point, but they profile the people most likely to commit crime.
     
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    I trust everyone i meet until their actions give me a reason to doubt them.
     
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    Yes,,I understand that, but not when you are looking [and are working] to stop a threat. It's common place and is acceptable in my opinion. It does not mean you are filled with hate.

    If Ducks keep crapping on your lawn, you do not check out the neighbors dog. These people are doing a job, that job happens to incur sizing up a threat. It has nothing to do with prejudice or hate. It would be wrong to assume such.
     
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    Empathy
     
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    That is incredibly stupid and many criminals look for people exactly like you

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    And peace and love and stolen property
     
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    Most serial murderers are white. I'm glad they were able to figure that out and profile them. Should they not do this?
    Ridiculous.
     
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    You may act in a trusting manner, but you do not automatically "trust" everyone you meet. If you did you would have a psychotic disorder. Humans are not wired that way.

    If I walked up to you (a complete unknown) and asked to borrow $10 to feed my starving children and I would gladly repay you next Tuesday, would you "loan" me the money? How about $1000?
     
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    Of course they should.

    But actually, that hasn't been true for 20 years
     
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    I should have profiled my wife........:sad:

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    That's the point, we agree. I'm trying to show others that whites are profiled as well.
     
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    Lol.....actually, you did. Your profiling skills were probably just compromised by "other" human urges.
     
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    "The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars,
    But in ourselves, that we are underlings."

    I'm a leg man,,how bout you?.........LOL
     
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    No - as has been pointed out all too frequently, the whole purpose of having a 'black' minority is that every third-rate bully can believe himself superior and insult or kill them. As you know. Stop pissing into the wind: gunscum and racists murder people, and always will.
     
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    Me? I'm only interested in their mind.....yes, their mind....that's the ticket. ;-)
     

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