Zimmerman Trial And Lessons Learned

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  1. stjames1_53

    stjames1_53 Banned

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    so, you favor criminal rights over anyone else's..gotcha
     
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    why? because Martin was black?
     
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    stjames1_53 Banned

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    All these eye witnesses and still no conviction. I wonder why they didn't show up in court to give their eye witness testimony..........
    and yet none of our shade tree prosecutors showed their faces in court......
    Funny how they know more than the FBI..............
     
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    Zimmerman claimed that the Retreat was a hotbed of burglaries.. Twin Lakes which included trailer parks, apartment complexes, other condo communities and single family dwellings had in fact suffered a rash of day time, week-day burglaries. George was caught up in acting out..
     
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    GZ didn't resort to deadly force until he was being assaulted. How does that threat not exist?
     
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    SiNNiK Well-Known Member

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    There are eye witnesses, as well as forensic evidence. Plenty of evidence to consider, and they found no cracks in GZ's testimony.
     
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    Show me where I said anything like that. I am in favor responsible gun ownership by owners who did not get all their training from John Wayne movies.
     
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    .......and most of us didn't get their training through the movies. Many of us were taught at home and/or military.
    Most of these "killers" were big fans of shoot 'em up's video games. You prefer to allow a video game to teach your kids about guns? Were everything is target? What know what else they have? Social media to make their brag and two days worth of national news.
    Libs just slay me :roflol:
     
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    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    I have had people follow me in sketchy ass neighborhoods up in Denver (a hint, don't take shortcuts through construction sites), I didn't beat their head into a sidewalk.

    See, most of us can act like humans, not like animals.
     
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    Then please provide proof that the 911 operator told Zimmerman to follow Martin.
     
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    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    Zimmerman had his head beat into a sidewalk, how did the threat not exist?

    Be explicit.
     
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    You just make up stuff. You brought up the Duke. I perfer to train my children responsible fire arm ownership and the high level of responsitlyty every gun owner has. One of which is to not intentionally put yourself in a situation you might have to kill someone, like Z did. I am not a lib, I think everyone should be armed, I just think this stupid gunslinger stuff hurts gun rights far more than helps us. Now make up more stuff I said or think. The Duke..:roll:.
     
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    There is plenty of evidence that George lived in a fantasy world of being a hero and desperately wanted to be a cop....I think he ignored the reality, failed to be prudent and speak to Trayvon Martin.
     
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    Zimmerman had his head beat into a sidewalk, how did the threat not exist?

    Be explicit.
     
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    Zimmerman was a full grown adult male, I really do have a hard time believing he was really in fear of his life from Martin.
     
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    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    You are saying you can be a full grown male, have your head beat in on a sidewalk, and you should not fear for your life?
     
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    I am saying every fist fight should not end in a shooting.
     
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    Who says it should? There is a difference between a fist fight and smashing someone's head into a sidewalk.

    If someone was smashing my head into concrete, I would most certainly shoot them.
     
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    Zimmerman should have had a harder time making that arguemnt. if Z was 80 and a kid attacked him great, fire away, a reasonable man would believe he was in fear of his life, at 80. At 35 or whatever the Z man was, and he was healthy and was truly capable of defending himself, not so much. Not to mention the fact that he intentionally put himself in that position by getting out of his SUV. Like I said, I just beleive he is lucky to not be in jail.
     
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    Age has little to do with it. It does not matter how old you are or how old they are if someone is smashing your head into concrete.
     
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    Dont twist, it is not age it is abilty. I even used 80 vs 35 to make that clear. If you are 80 and incapable of defending yourself, it is much eaiser to come to the conclusion you have to shoot the kid. If you are capable of defending yourself without killing the kid it is the gunowners repsonsiblity to do so. I never bought the fact Z was that beat up, Z had to shoot him, or Z should have ever gotten out of his SUV to start with. He is just lucky he is not in jail.
     
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    His head was being smashed into the sidewalk.

    It is obvious who had the advantage before the firearm leveled the playing field.
     
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    you actually put your nose in another conversation. So expect it to get bit.
    My mom used to call that being rude.
    For every one of those alleged gunslingers you rant about there are ten thousand who aren't. So don't go and carry on like you're so offended by a comment made to another poster that you have the urge to crawl over me.
    And the Duke would have that other guy's arse in hand...........
     
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    OR, Zimmerman could have spoken and diffused the situation.
     
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    Do you really think you have private conversations on internet forums?
     

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