ZIONIST-JEWISH eugenics pre-dates Hitler's belief in a Master Race

( Not to disrupt the Poll re Jewish Master race any further, I thought I'd start a new thread , as a question was raised whether Jews are a race . Early Zionists apparently thought along those lines .)
its a long but I hope you find it as informative as I did )

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Jewish eugenics pre-dates Hitler's belief in a Master Race


*** According to the Israeli daily newspaper quoted below, before the Nazi Third Reich in Germany plotted to create a Master Race from the European gene pool, Zionists had already established a racial purification program to create the perfect Jewish bloodline. ***

A shocking new study reveals how key figures in the pre-state Zionist establishment proposed castrating the mentally ill, sterilizing the poor and doing everything possible to ensure reproduction only among the `best of people.'
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Castrating the mentally ill, encouraging reproduction among families "numbered among the intelligentsia" and limiting the size of "families of Eastern origin" and "preventing ... lives that are lacking in purpose" - these proposals are not from some program of the Third Reich but rather were brought up by key figures in the Zionist establishment of the Land of Israel during the period of the British Mandate. It turns out there was a great deal of enthusiasm here for the improvement of the hereditary characteristics of a particular race (eugenics). This support, which has been kept under wraps for many years, is revealed in a study that examines the ideological and intellectual roots at the basis of the establishment of the health system in Israel.

In the Yishuv (pre-state Jewish community) in the 1930s there were "consultation stations" operating on a Viennese model of advice centers for couples that wished to marry and become parents. In Austria, with the Nazis' rise to power, they served for forced treatment. Here the stations were aimed at "giving advice on matters of sex and marriage, especially in the matter of preventing pregnancy in certain cases." They distributed birth-control devices for free to the penniless and at reduced prices to those of limited means. In Tel Aviv the advice stations were opened in centers of immigrant populations: Ajami in Jaffa, the Hatikvah Quarter and Neveh Sha'anan.

These are some of the findings of a doctoral thesis written by Sachlav Stoler-Liss about the history of the health services in the 1950s, under the supervision of Prof. Shifra Shvarts, head of the department of health system management at Ben-Gurion University of the Negev. They were presented at the annual conference of the Israel Anthropological Association at Ben-Gurion College.

The father of the theory of eugenics was British scholar Francis Galton. It was he who coined the term - which literally means "well-born" - at the end of the 19th century. The aim of the eugenics movement was to better the human race. Galton proposed a plan to encourage reproduction among "the best people" in society and to prevent reproduction among "the worst elements."



Forced sterilization

Between the end of the 19th century and the beginning of the 20th, Galton drew many followers and his ideas spread rapidly to other countries in Europe (among them Germany, France, Italy, Denmark, Sweden and Belgium), to the United States and to some countries in South America. In various countries laws were passed that allowed for the forced sterilization of "hereditary paupers, criminals, the feeble-minded, tuberculous, shiftless and ne'er-do-wells." In the United States, up until 1935, about 20,000 people - "insane," "feeble-minded," immigrants, members of ethnic minorities and people with low IQs - were forcibly sterilized, most of them in California. The Californian law was revoked only in 1979. According to Dr. Philip Reilly, a doctor and executive director of the Shriver Center for Mental Retardation, in 1985 at least 19 states in the United States had laws that allowed the sterilization of people with mental retardation, (among them Arkansas, Colorado, Georgia, Minnesota, Mississippi, North and South Carolina, Vermont, Utah and Montana).

"Eugenics is considered to be something that only happened in Germany," says Stoler-Liss. "Germany was indeed the most murderous manifestation of eugenics, but in fact it was a movement that attracted many followers. In every place it took on a unique, local aspect. It is interesting to note that both in Germany and in Israel a link was made between eugenics, health and nationalism."

Stoler-Liss first encountered the eugenics texts of doctors from the Yishuv when looking for instruction books for parents for a research project for her master's degree. "I presented a text at a thesis seminar and then the instructor of the workshop said to me, `But why aren't you saying that this is a translated text?' I replied: `No, no, the text isn't translated.' `In Israel,' he said, `there are no such things.'"

She decided to look into whether there was only anecdotal and non- representative evidence, doctors and public figures here and there who supported eugenics - and she found many publications that promoted eugenics. Supporters of the idea were key figures in the emerging medical establishment in Palestine; the people who managed and created the Israeli health system.

One of the most prominent eugenicists of the Mandatory period was Dr. Joseph Meir, a well-known doctor who acquired his education in Vienna, served for about 30 years as the head of the Kupat Holim Clalit health maintenance organization, and after whom the Meir Hospital in Kfar Sava is named. "From his position at the very heart of the Zionist medical establishment in the land of Israel in the mid-1930s, he brought young mothers the gospel of eugenics, warned them about degeneracy and transmitted the message to them about their obligation and responsibility for bearing only healthy children," says Stoler-Liss.

Thus, for example, in 1934 Dr. Meir published the following text on the first page of "Mother and Child," a guide for parents that he edited for publication by Kupat Holim: "Who is entitled to give birth to children? The correct answer is sought by eugenics, the science of improving the race and preserving it from degeneration. This science is still young, but its positive results are already great and important - These cases [referring to marriages of people with hereditary disorders - T.T.] are not at all rare in all nations and in particular in the Hebrew nation that has lived a life of exile for 1,800 years. And now our nation has returned to be reborn, to a natural life in the land of the Patriarchs. Is it not our obligation to see to it that we have whole and healthy children in body and soul? For us, eugenics as a whole, and the prevention of the transmission of hereditary disorders in particular, even greater value than for all other nations! ... Doctors, people involved in sport and the national leaders must make broad propaganda for the idea: Do not have children if you are not certain that they will be healthy in body and soul!"



`Problematic and dangerous'



Part two follows ..

 

In its full version, the article, which was published in the "Health Guard" section of the now defunct labor Zionist newspaper Davar, the doctor proposed castrating the mentally ill. Stoler-Liss found many more examples in the "Mother and Child" books that were published in 1934 and 1935 and in journals like Eitanim, which was edited by Dr. Meir.

"The support of Dr. Meir and other senior people in the health system for these ideas has been kept under wraps for many years," claims Stoler-Liss. No one today talks about this chapter in the history of the Yishuv. In the mid-1950s Dr. Meir's articles were collected into a book that came out in his memory. The article mentioned above was not included in it. Stoler-Liss found a card file with notes scribbled by the editors of the volume. They defined the article as "problematic and dangerous." "Now, after Nazi eugenics," wrote one of the editors, "it is dangerous to publish this article."

During the latter part of the 1930s, adds Stoler-Liss, when word came out about the horrors that eugenics in its extreme form is likely to cause, they stopped using this word, which was attributed to the Nazis. Overnight eugenics organizations and journals changed their names and tried to shake off any signs of this theory. Dr. Meir, however, during all the years he was active, continued to promote the ideas of eugenics. At the beginning of the 1950s he published an article in which he harshly criticized the reproduction prize of 100 lirot that David Ben-Gurion promised to every mother who gave birth to 10 children. "We have no interest in the 10th child or even in the seventh in poor families from the East ... In today's reality we should pray frequently for a second child in a family that is a part of the intelligentsia. The poor classes of the population must not be instructed to have many children, but rather restricted."

"I'm not making a value judgment," says Stoler-Liss. "Zionism arose at a certain period, in a certain ideological atmosphere - there were all kinds of ideas in the air and there were also eugenicist Zionists. Some of the doctors were educated in Europe, and at that time the medical schools taught not only medicine but also the theory of eugenics."



Judaism of muscle


Dr. Meir was not the first Zionist leader who supported eugenics. According to studies by Dr. Rapahel Falk, a geneticist and historian of science and medicine at Hebrew University, other major Zionist thinkers - among them Dr. Max Nordau, Theodor Herzl's colleague, a doctor and a publicist, and Dr. Arthur Ruppin, the head of the World Zionist Organization office in the Land of Israel - presented the ideas of eugenics as one of the aims of the Jewish movement for national renewal and the settlement of the land.



Prof. Meira Weiss, an anthropologist of medicine at Hebrew University, describes in her book "The Chosen Body" how the settlement of the land and work on the land were perceived by these Zionist thinkers as the "cure" that would restore the health of the Jewish body that had degenerated in the Diaspora. In Nordau's terms, a "Judaism of muscle" would replace "the Jew of the coffee house: the pale, skinny, Diaspora Jew. "At a time when many Europeans are calling for a policy of eugenics, the Jews have never taken part in the `cleansing' of their race but rather allowed every child, be it the sickest, to grow up and marry and have children like himself. Even the mentally retarded, the blind and the deaf were allowed to marry," wrote Ruppin in his book "The Sociology of the Jews." "In order to preserve the purity of our race, such Jews [with signs of degeneracy - T.T.] must refrain from having children."

"Many people dealt with eugenics as a theoretical issue," says Stoler-Liss. "They even set up a Nordau Club with the aim of researching the racial aspects of the Jewish people and ways of improving it. What was special about Dr. Meir and the group that joined him was that for them eugenics was a very practical matter." They wanted to pursue applied eugenics.

The main institution was the advice station. The first station was opened in 1931 in Beit Strauss on Balfour Street in Tel Aviv. The aim was to work in "pleasant ways," through persuasion and choice. As Stoler-Liss explains: "Why should people work against their personal interests? It is here that the connection to the national interest comes in. If I understand that by having a baby I will harm the national interest, the building of the land, the `new Jew,' I will refrain from giving birth. But just to make certain, Meir told the doctors, in the event that a woman comes to you who is `a risk' for giving birth to a sick baby, it is your obligation to make certain that she has an abortion."

"Gynecologist Miriam Aharonova also wrote extensively on the subject of eugenics," adds Stoler-Liss. "In articles for parents under headings such as `The Hygiene of Marriage' she gives a list of eugenic instructions for parents - from the recommended age for giving birth (between 20 and 25), to the recommended difference in age between the father and the mother (the reason for which is the betterment of the race) to a list of diseases that could infect the spouse or "be transmitted through heredity to their descendents after them." In the diseases, she mentions "syphilis, gonorrhea, tuberculosis, alcoholism, narcotics addiction (fondness for morphine, cocaine, etc.) and diseases of the mind and the nerves." In the volume of "Mother and Child" published in 1935, says Stoler-Liss, the publication and discussions by doctors who supported eugenics was greatly expanded. Why, in fact, did they not use force? The establishment had a great deal of power over immigrants and refugees.


"The medical establishment's power was limited at that time. This was an establishment that developed hand in hand with the system it was supposed to strengthen and suffered from constant shortages: a shortage of doctors, a shortage of nurses and a shortage of equipment. It had to examine, treat, inoculate and so on. We are talking about the period of the British Mandate. When at long last there was a state, eugenics theory declined. My explanation is the change of generations: that generation had come to an end professionally, and a new generation with more national motivation came along that was not educated at the European universities during that period. They had already seen what the Nazis had done with it and the ideological identification was lower. The ideas themselves seeped in but they're not using the same rhetoric."

Have eugenics really vanished?

The eugenic chapter in the history of Western culture has been closed, but have eugenics really disappeared?

"Eugenic thinking is alive and well today," asserts Stoler-Liss. "It is expressed mainly in the very high rate of pre-natal tests and genetic filtering [of genetically deviant fetuses]. Mothers are very highly motivated to give birth only to healthy children and the attitude toward the exceptional, the different and the handicapped in Israeli society is problematic."

At hospitals today future parents are offered a plethora of genetic tests that diagnose the fetus before birth. Some of them are aimed at identifying serious disorders, like Tay-Sachs disease, a degenerative disease that causes a painful death in infancy. Others, however, are aimed at screening fetuses with conditions like deafness and sterility, the bearers of which can lead full and satisfying lives.

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SOURCE :

http://www.haaretz.com/do-not-have-children-if-they-won-t-be-healthy-1.124913

 

jews always believed they were the master race.... according to their "god"

all the other races are nothing

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics
A lot of nations/people believed in this at the start of the 1900, no one took it as far as tha Nazis did.

 

Absolutley nothing.

 

so you are out of the closet racist now?

so u admit to being zionist?

 

Admit?
I don't remember ever hiding the fact that I am a proud zionist.

 

so for many years you have been calling people racist that criticize israel?.... even though you know they are not racist.

 

Never.
I call racists, racists.
I call anti semites, anti semites.
And i call nazis, nazis.

 

I've told you before , due to overuse , the term Anti-semite , (a tactic to silence Israel's critics) , it has lost its original meaning.

However , What do you call :

The Kahanists ?

What do you call Rabbis like Ovadia Josef + his followers , ? scoundrels like Netanyahu / Lieberman + the Likud gang. ?


What do you call Those Arab Hating Zionist - Settlers ? :

What do you call Gentile hating Jews ?

see : http://www.politicalforum.com/political-opinions-beliefs/258748-anti-gentilism.html

What do you call arrogant Jews who behave like Nazis ?

(Zio-Nazis ?)


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Well, for one thing, they are not a race(sic) of people.

There have been two prominent people who believed Jews were a 'race', one was their founder Hertzl, and the other, as you can see the Zionist is in good company, was Hitler.

So, they are definitely not a race.

A religion? Well, that's what they were, until reinvented as a race/ethnic group. The Zionist didn't care about the religous aspect, they most certainly were not Torah observant, if they were, they would know that the creation of a material state called 'israel', is forbidden.

So, while there will still be Jews who are Torah observant, and believe in god, Zionists did not and never have.

So far.

Not a race/ethnic group, and not a religion, that is Zionist Jews.

What are they then?

Simple.

They are people. They are historically terrorists(Lehi), and they have turned israel into a criminal cabal, as policy.

Then we have this...

[video=youtube;T6JRNewjrFk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=T6JRNewjrFk[/video]

[video=youtube;1yuavXoUliY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1yuavXoUliY[/video]

 

Yes, it's a trick.

Zionism IS racism, even though they are not a race, doesn't mean to say they don't see themselves as such.

And you know that being sneaky, and inverting everything, is what is drummed into them, yes?

Thus, when a Zionist calls someone a 'racist', then they are merely deflecting from their own racism.

When a Zionist calls someone a 'Nazi', they are merely deflecting from the fact that they behave as Nazi's.

And when one calls you an anti semite....see, you will not see this often...one of them being honest!

[video=youtube;WWhanbjt-f4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWhanbjt-f4[/video]

 

Yes, I would rather like an answer to that too.

Where does this guy get off anyway, calling non Jews on here, Nazi's and anti semites?

And racists.

I bet if I checked your post history, I would not find any racism, against true and distinct races, like blacks, or chinese.

Go check mine. Nothing. Not in my 12,000 posts, will you find racism.

They bleat on about 'Stormfront', ALL the time. Stormfront IS full of true racists.

Meantime, false semites like this, they don't care about true racism, they ignore it on here, each day.

ALL the care about is using their slander, to deflect from their own racism and arrogance.

But so ingrained is the slander, that even though it would be a personal attack for my to call you 'racist' on here, on a daily basis, he feels he can get away with it, even with no evidence of racism on our part.

It would be like us, with no evidence against him, saying that he was a paedophile every single day.

And it being accepted for us to be allowed to do so.

See what I mean...

 

Quite right Jack, True Torah Jews also say that - Israel (Zionism) should not exist


[video=youtube;ffUTRjQSihk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffUTRjQSihk[/video]



Unfortunately , closed -minded Zionist are not prepared to examine views contary to their Zionist indoctrination.


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Shame on you.


One the other hand, I'm sure during Adolf's reign , there were many Germans who also boasted in saying they were "proud" Nazis .


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It is a fact of history, that they do not teach in processed education systems, of 35 to a class, that contrary to the idea that the German people were somehow browbeaten by Hitler, that is not true, not at all.

Indeed, I would go as far as to say, that the loyalty and faith that Germans had in what he was trying to achieve, has never been rivalled, by ANY European leader, since then.

Look at today's leaders. For the love of god, no one in their right mind even trusts or respects them, let alone really supports them.

How many people do you speak to, who feel hope and pride, when you speak about David Cameron or Tony Blair?

If you got a response at all, it would be entirely negative, and that is reflected right across Europe, by people, towards today's 'modern leaders'.

It's because they are not leaders, in the true sense, and they do not give a crap about the country, 90% of people can rot in hell, as far they are concerned.

That is why there is a TOTAL disconnect between ordinary people, and our 'leaders', we feel nothing for them, except maybe contempt.

No one feels pride, or a sense of identity with mainstream politics, because, for one thing, the establishment parties no longer stand for anything of substance, they have become almost as one.

It used to be that someone would, right or wrong, feel a real affinity, and be a 'proud Labour man, or even a proud Tory.

No one takes that sort of pride anymore, for the reasons I have cited.

There are still men, of course there are, who could make great leaders, just as there must be men of that calibre in N America.

They system is not designed to facilitate good men, with good intent, it is absolutely designed to facilitate whoever those that operate outwith a democratic process wish to promote.

Don't forget, Germany did not declare war on Britain, no sir, it was the other way around.

It is a fact of history that Germany did not want a war, Hitler said as much, he said that for every day he had to engage in this war, it was a day wasted from his primary goal of making Germany great, for Germans.

And why did Britain delcare war on Germany? Because they rejected the TOV, and invaded Poland. But there is obviously a history as to why they did that, as well. Had Britain not declared war, I truly believe that Germany and Britain would have co existed, because, a great deal of Europe was under German occupation, but, contrary to popular belief, there was not the resistance to it, that one may think.

Take France. Yes, Germany occupied it, but the so called French resistance is really an over talked fable, in a way. It existed, but it was small, and no real threat. The rest of France, they had actually accepted the new way.

Without a WW2, there would have been nothing for the US to even consider getting into.

As you look around today, how israel are, how things have played out with the Neo Cons that are a Jewish construct, and who are powerful in the US, the many wars, that have all really been either made up reasons, or distortions, all the millions that have died in those, human beings, innocent people, the rampant usury, materialsim, the decay of our inner cities, the way that mainstream politicians, once in office, form policy that hurts most people - what really did we achieve in fighting Germany?

Apart from both countries being bombed to bits, what actually did we, as a country, gain?

Don't also forget, that this idea that Jews were just suddenly ill treated in Germany, and by Germans, happened for no reason at all.

It's a lie.

A misrepresentation of fact.

You would have to go back to WW1.

The Jews in Germany at that time, were treated v well indeed.

Germany and their allies of the day, they had pretty much won that war, however, what many do not know is that Germany offered a deal to Britain, that we could just end it now, and things could go back to how they were, before the outbreak of war. There was an actual term for it, but it slips my mind.

And Britain were considering it, after all, if you are losing a war, and are technically beaten, of course you are going to accept such an offer, indeed, there is an arguement for saying that it would be a rare thing for a nation to make that offer, today.

The Zionist Jews though, they had different ideas.

They said they could bring America in, which would mean that Germany would be utterly defeated, however, in return, they wanted a promise of something, that was really not the place for those that made that promise, to commit to.

The Zionist Jews did what they said they would do, they brought America into it, and Germany were crushed.

During it, the Zionist Jews came back and asked for something in writing, that would mean their part of the bargain was kept.

That 'something' was the Balfour Declaration, as you may know.

Now, here was Germany, utterly ruined, utterly destroyed.

And they knew who had made this possible.

So, I ask you, what should their feelings had been towards the Jews that they had previously treated v well?

Imagine if America and Russia were having a war, and America were winning.

However, America suggested to Russia, rather than prolong it, they could both stop, and return to the pre war conditions, as much as possible.

And Russia were considering that with a view to taking it.

But the Jews went to the Russians, and said, no no, don't accept that, keep going, with the war, and we will bring China in, to tilt it back in your favour, and, as a result, the US were utterly beaten, citiies in ruins, starvation among Americans, etc, etc.

How would one expect Americans to feel toward the Jews in America, after that?

Jack

 

He sounds like a good man.

Anyone can make the distinction.

It's in his voice, his manner, his 'eyes', you can tell that this Jew is ten times the Jew or man, that this one is....

[video=youtube;YtuKO06RAqo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtuKO06RAqo[/video]


Ironically, israel did once have a leader who, imo, was probably their last hope, before the cancer of radical Zionism took over.

And what do you think a state founded on terror acts did, or rather a spawn of radical Zionism..

Well, history tells us..

'Prime minister Yitzhak Rabin in 1995, they killed him just because he wanted a real peace with the Palestinians, he signed the Oslo Accords, he wanted to give the Palestinians some of their rights !

In October 1995, the opposition Likud party was silent as right-wing religious nationalists denounced Prime Minister Rabin as a traitor in front of an angry demonstration in Jerusalem. A month later, Rabin was assassinated by a young religious zealot, Yigal Amir. The first killing of an Israeli leader since the founding of the state of Israel.

The assassination achieved its political objective. It brought Binyamin Netanyahus Likud right-wing government to power in 1996, and the peace talks came to a virtual standstill.

The assassination of Yitzhak Rabin took place on November 4, 1995, at 21:30, at the end of a rally in support of the Oslo Accords at the Kings of Israel Square in Tel Aviv.'

 

its Absolutely disgraceful - however , One shouldnt be surprised why the pro-Israel/Pro-Israel posters on this forum have not commented or distanced themselves from this ,morally repugnant infanticide this lady has exposed.

They'red rather choose to remain silent . Bloody hypocrits ,


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Yes.

Ordinarily, the Khazar will just not shut up.

How to shut a Khazar up?

Show them uncomfortable truths, from out of the mouths of Jews.

It puts them in an impossible situation.

You see, the Jew is brought up never to criticise another Jew, no matter what. Not publicly.

So, if one were to listen to this women, they would either have to say she ls lying (but she is Jewish, so they cannot do that), or they ignore it.

It was the same with that thread on the HUGE cover up, and persecution of victims, by Hassidic Jewish Rabbi's, in Brooklyn.

And the way that the DA gave them special protections, and a different reaction to when there were abuses among RC Priests.

Jews on here would not comment on that thread, nor the abuses, because they were done by Jews.

Had it been ANYONE else, they would be all over it.

Shows how truly dishonest they are.

 

Get this :


"'Gentile sperm leads to barbaric offspring'

Rabbi Dov Lior says Jewish Law prohibits sterile couples from conceiving using non-Jew's sperm, as it causes adverse traits. On subject of single mothers he says, 'Child cannot be 100% normal'

Rabbi Dov Lior, a senior authority on Jewish law in the Religious Zionism movement, asserted recently that a Jewish woman should never get pregnant using sperm donated by a non-Jewish man – even if it is the last option available.

According to Lior, a baby born through such an insemination will have the "negative genetic traits that characterize non-Jews." Instead, he advised sterile couples to adopt.


http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4006385,00.html


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Well you should know about all three, shouldn't you? Aren't you a racist nazi who hates all Semites and supports the descendants of Khazar and other converts?

 

Exactly right, as my posting history clearly demonstrates.

 

Do you have proof of this?

 

Yes in his small movement Dov Lior is a leader. Making him still a minority among Jews. He is a horrible human being and I would argue much of what he says violates the laws of Torah. He is an idiot and has been arrested for some of his statements and actions so.................

 

The fact that people like you consider him " a horrible human being " IMO - speaks in his favour.

Its a pity that you've not learn to respect to views of more learned Rabbis like Dov Lior / Rabbi Yisroel Dovid Weiss and many others :


Rabbi Dovid Baharan of Jerusalem
Rabbi Ahron Roth
Rabbi Ben Zion Chazan
Rabbi Avraham Mordechai Alter
Rabbi Yosef Tzvi Dushinky
Rabbi Yosef Yitzchok Schneersohn
Rabbi Yaakov Yechezkel Greenwald
Rabbi Zelig Reuven Bengis
Rabbi Avraham Yishaya Karelitz
Rabbi Mordechai Chaim Slonimer
Rabbi Yosef Shmuel Rabinow
Rabbi Eliyahu Meir Bloch
Rabbi Michoel Ber Weissmandl
Rabbi Yitzchok Zev Soloveitchik
Rabbi Shimon Yisroel Posen
Rabbi Yishaya Asher Zelig Margolios
Rabbi Chaim Yosef Dinkels
Rabbi Avraham Kalmanovitz
Rabbi Pinchas Epstein
Rabbi Yaakov Yosef Twersky
Rabbi Yechezkel Mertz
Rabbi Dovid Jungreis
Rabbi Amram Blau
Rabbi Moshe Yitzchok "Itzikel" Gewirtzman
Rabbi Yoel Teitelbaum
Rabbi Hillel Lichtenstein
Rabbi Levi Yitzchok Greenwald
Rabbi Eliezer Zusya Portugal
Rabbi Yosef Greenwald
Rabbi Boruch Kaplan
Rabbi Dovid Smith
Rabbi Chaim Zanvil Abramamowitz
Rabbi Avraham Yitzchok Kahn
Rabbi Moshe Aryeh Freund
Rabbi Avigdor Miller
Rabbi Refoel Blum
Rabbi Avrohom Leitner
Rabbi Yitzchok Dov Koppelman
Rabbi Israel Domb
Rabbi Meir Weberman
Rabbi Moshe Hirsch
Rabbi Moshe Ber Beck
Rabbi Ahron Cohen
Rabbi Eleizer Hochouzer
Rabbi Mordechai Weberman
Rabbi Yosef Goldstein
Rabbi Yisroel Dovid Weiss
Rabbi Yisroel P. Feldman

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All of the and many more are anti-zionists and have attempted to warn observent Jews against the godless path or Zionist ideology. Or are you one of those so-call Christian Zionists who pray for all - ALL Jews to be gathered in th Holy Land so that the Messiah can ZAP 2/3rds of them along with the Ant-Christ. ?? + forced the Jewish remnants to finally accept Jesus as their saviour. Which is it ?


LOL

I presume you're one of those who are not religious but still claim that the Dd of the Jews promised the land to the Zionist s.