Obama decrees - Free Sterilizations Must be Offered to All College Women

Discussion in 'Health Care' started by Speeders R Murderers, Mar 18, 2012.

  1. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2010
    Messages:
    110,113
    Likes Received:
    37,849
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Im not sure how you think taking govt out of healthcare is going to reduce the power of insurace companies or drug companies....
     
  2. Consmike

    Consmike New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2009
    Messages:
    45,042
    Likes Received:
    487
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Again, what about men?
     
  3. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2010
    Messages:
    110,113
    Likes Received:
    37,849
    Trophy Points:
    113
    im not sure how often men die from childbirth
     
  4. EMTdaniel86

    EMTdaniel86 Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2011
    Messages:
    9,380
    Likes Received:
    4,403
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    You know how many women die from childbirth-about 1000. You know how many women go in to labor in a year.

    You know what this? It isn't for healthcare it is the gov't saying we know what is best for you.
     
  5. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2010
    Messages:
    48,288
    Likes Received:
    6,966
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I hope all the leftys follow Obama's recommendations.
     
  6. Speeders R Murderers

    Speeders R Murderers Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2010
    Messages:
    4,889
    Likes Received:
    69
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Sounds good but the problem is no where does the constitution give the federal govt the power to do such things. So by the tenth amendment, health care is a state issue. That's why so many states are nullifying obamacare.
     
  7. MisLed

    MisLed New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2011
    Messages:
    7,299
    Likes Received:
    329
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I am FINE with it. This is first i heard. FREE sterilization? astounding. the end of liberalism and they didn't even think that one thru.
     
  8. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2010
    Messages:
    110,113
    Likes Received:
    37,849
    Trophy Points:
    113
    and they are right, having more things covered by your health insurance IS good for you
     
  9. Speeders R Murderers

    Speeders R Murderers Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2010
    Messages:
    4,889
    Likes Received:
    69
    Trophy Points:
    0
    How is it good for me to pay for someone elses sterilization?
     
  10. Consmike

    Consmike New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2009
    Messages:
    45,042
    Likes Received:
    487
    Trophy Points:
    0
    sterilization does not help women survive childbirth. If they are sterile they won't have a child, if they are having a baby you can't post-sterilize

    I am just wondering why this is not about men being sterilized? men get a wide range of cancer and other disease in their reproductive organs as well.
     
  11. Jkirk3279

    Jkirk3279 New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2012
    Messages:
    9
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    "“The most common contraceptive methods used in the United States are the oral contraceptive pill and female sterilization,” said the report. “It is thought that greater use of long-acting, reversible contraceptive methods—including intrauterine devices and contraceptive implants that require less action by the woman and therefore have lower use failure rates—might help further reduce unintended pregnancy rates. Cost barriers to use of the most effective contraceptive methods are important because long-acting, reversible contraceptive methods and sterilization have high up-front costs.”

    SURPRISE ! It's about IUD's and implants.
     
  12. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2010
    Messages:
    110,113
    Likes Received:
    37,849
    Trophy Points:
    113
    are you asking me to explain the benefits of being insured?
     
  13. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2010
    Messages:
    110,113
    Likes Received:
    37,849
    Trophy Points:
    113
    thats brilliant.....and quitting smoking doesnt cure cancer either
    they also can get the clap, but none of that is prevented by getting sterilized
     
  14. Consmike

    Consmike New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2009
    Messages:
    45,042
    Likes Received:
    487
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Women can still get STD's and other diseases even if they are sterilized as well. Holy crap.

    Libs do you believe that once sterilized sex can no longer be performed? lmao, public education.
     
  15. TheHat

    TheHat Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2008
    Messages:
    20,931
    Likes Received:
    179
    Trophy Points:
    63
    WTF?

    Why would a college age girl sterilize herself?....lol.

    This is a joke right? It's got to be a joke.

    So it's now better to simply sterilize yourself and spend the rest of your days on hormone therapy?

    I am sure that will be cheaper right?....lmao.

    We are screwed folks! This idiots, how can people support such dumbassery?
     
  16. fiddlerdave

    fiddlerdave Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2010
    Messages:
    19,083
    Likes Received:
    2,706
    Trophy Points:
    113
    What does "hormone therapy" have to do with ANYTHING?

    I think someone should have attended sex ed classes.
     
  17. TheHat

    TheHat Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2008
    Messages:
    20,931
    Likes Received:
    179
    Trophy Points:
    63
    I am sorry, I am not a Neanderthal that needs my hand held on how to have sex like liberals who are to stupid to figure it out on their own.

    Sterilization is referring to a hysterectomy. In other words pulling out a woman's reproductive system. Do that, and you will be on hormones the rest of your natural born life b/c you just yanked out the organs that produce estrogen. Ya know, the hormones that keep females female?????

    Perhaps you should read a physiology & anatomy book while your hand is being held in sex ed class.
     
  18. EMTdaniel86

    EMTdaniel86 Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2011
    Messages:
    9,380
    Likes Received:
    4,403
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    You didn't get the point. This is case of the federal gov't overstepping its authority saying it must have, and 2) saying we know what is best for you, you don't know what is best for you. Biology 101 and common sense 101, if women doesn’t have sex, she doesn’t need to worry about STD and pregnancy or anything like that.
     
  19. fiddlerdave

    fiddlerdave Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2010
    Messages:
    19,083
    Likes Received:
    2,706
    Trophy Points:
    113
    :lol:

    A "hysterectomy" is a "hysterectomy"! :roll: The only time it is used for "sterilization" is among Catholic women who are absurdly sometimes getting this MAJOR surgery for "medical reasons" to get around the Church ban on "sterilizations" if a woman would be harmed or killed by more pregnancies.

    "Sterilization" refers to tying the fallopian tubes that bring the egg down to the woman's uterous.

    It is relatively minor outpatient surgery, with very low risk (VERY VERY low risk compared to a hysterectomy) for the woman and NO effects on hormones, cycles or anything else for women.

    ONLY the deadly evil of the Catholic Church forces hysterectomy on women for "birth control" when a tubal ligation sterilization is perfectly adequate if pregnancy need be avoided.

    BTW, I have committed a mortal sin and am condemned to hell for getting a vasectomy to avoid having children with massive birth defects for taxpayers to pay for and for you all to give lifelong care to my children.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tubal_ligation
     
  20. Never Left

    Never Left Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2009
    Messages:
    30,220
    Likes Received:
    410
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Is there anyone who still believes this progressive neo-communit leftist loser is not a complete imbecile? Anyone?
     
  21. fiddlerdave

    fiddlerdave Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2010
    Messages:
    19,083
    Likes Received:
    2,706
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The government does NOT say "we know what is best for you, you don't know what is best for you."

    YOU are saying what is "best" for women! YOU are the one telling women they CAN'T HAVE the option!

    The government is giving women the OPTION of having birth control if they want it. In NO WAY is it REQUIRING women to take it!
     
  22. snowisfun

    snowisfun Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2012
    Messages:
    115
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    0
    They should abolish sterilization (sterilisation spelling in U.K. & English Commonwealth) surgeries. I'm pro-choice on abortion & I agree with birth control such as pill, condoms, Rhythm & no sex. But sterlizations are mutilations & unless it's a hysterectomy to save a life, abolish these surgeries. All things =, if a woman has not been spayed vs. if untouched, it's more attractive to go for the woman who is untouched. Unsure why a woman would want to have sex with a man who has had a vasectomy. Also there are many women & men who did not have kids when they were young & then they regret later in life that they did not have kids & sterilizations which are permanent worsen this.

    A woman has around 20 or so good fertile years in her life to get pregnant & have kids (18 to 39 years old). After a woman turns 40, her fertility levels go down & after she hits menopause, she can't have kids. They must also abolish sex change mutilations-against a Dr. surgically maiming a man or woman to make them fake opposite sex members just as opposed to a Dr. trying to make a man a dog by surgically altering his voice, etc. because he thinks he is a dog instead of a man. Sex change mutilations are even worse than homosexual/lesbian activities. They must cure GID, not surgically maim a person to make them fake members of opposite sex, but sex changes sadly happen because science knows how to do this. If a Black person believed he or she was White, it would be wrong for a Dr. to try to change their skin color. Man is man, woman is woman, dog is dog & cat is cat. My view is not based on any religion, it's based on seeing something wrong with these maimings. Here's an article by a woman on the harms of sex change maimings http://www.missionamerica.com/agenda.php?articlenum=4
     
  23. Robodoon

    Robodoon Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2010
    Messages:
    4,906
    Likes Received:
    182
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Golly, Eugenics Health Care, well thats Obama Care, is Based on the ideas of the UN Egenics nuts [​IMG]
     
  24. AnnaK

    AnnaK New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2009
    Messages:
    8,893
    Likes Received:
    83
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Is that what you would advise for a married couple as a way of maintaining a healthy relationship?
     
  25. AnnaK

    AnnaK New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2009
    Messages:
    8,893
    Likes Received:
    83
    Trophy Points:
    0

    I'd say very few. Those with serious medical conditions or those that carry genetic traits that would cause traumatic physical or mental defects in their children would be advised to consider it but even that doesn't mean they would.
     

Share This Page