Chickens are coming to Europe to roost: Europol chief warns of Jiahd threat

Flag, you are not making any sense at all.

I lost my patience in all of this "Arab Spring" mess.

Being underdeveloped, like Arabs, costs less effort than being developed and truely civilized, like us in the West.

That might have shocked you coming from me, but I've had quite enough of this...

Human rights are universal and absolute -- not some things on a piece of paper.

Your moral relativism comes accross as quite disturbing to me.

Meanwile,...

Egyptians are murdering eachother, Syrians are shooting themselves and their country to pieces, Libyans are torturing on an unseen scale,...

These people are underdeveloped -- not because they are inferior or something, but because they choose to act that way.

 

There was once a general consensus about what "American Freedom" was for white people. In order to extend the concept to all, the federal govt. was used as the tool for expansion.

The unforeseen consequence was that the growth in federal power insidiously reduced individual liberty gradually for everyone. The ideal of individual liberty diminishes with each passing year.

What is individual liberty. It is so a concept so exhaustive in nature that it deserves a thread all its own.

 

There are teachers and there are students in this case you are definitely student material. As for the American comment I sense envy and a feeling of inferiority, so in a way its a compliment and a direct gauge of your own inner preconceived shortcomings deserved or not. BTW, sometimes I am both a student and a teacher or either or.

Lastly, yes, Borat is a teacher in this instance, you should not be so closed minded and bigoted. You have attacked him personally but not contributed intellectually to this thread. Instead you make oblique insult and other flame bait. Attack the message not the messenger as per the rules of this forum. I can respect the message without respecting the messenger, for example I might dislike Hawkings atheism but I somewhat admire his intellect. What do you actually think about the news article in the OT ?

reva

 

I happen to agree. However I believe made possible the malignant growth of the federal government was the was the result of the outcome of the civil war. The union winning the civil war was a disaster for individual freedoms, it led to the enslavement of all of us by the unchecked growth of federal government power. We in the USA should restore the power to the states and reduce the federal government like a fat person on meth and a jenny Craig diet.

reva

 

Man you didn't EVEN catch Dutches niceties did you?

~ ha ha ahhhhh !

And GZ calls us morons....

reva

 

What a breath of fresh air for this forum. You speak the truth in a neutral non anti American way. I would be the first to admit that the USA has made mistakes on a huge scale in the past. However we do learn from those mistakes, and when our generals get too ambitious we the citizens reign them in. That was true in Nam and it was true in Iraq (two). Lastly on a personal level when I cite Muslims in a derogatory manner I ALWAYS use a prefix like RADICAL Muslims or explain why I my opinion is not favorable. That is unlike most of the usual suspects that insult in a blanket fashion, ie all ______ are dumb morons etc.

Anyway thanks again for a unbiased report janpor~

Reva

 

what powers do you want the states to have?

 

To answer that specifically would exceed the bandwidth of this domain ha ha! Right now the federal government can dictate to the states. It's not so much the specific issues but rather the balance of power I am concerned with. That and the unchecked growth of the federal government.

reva

 

We are all being 'nice'

and when i call americans ignorant morons, i do it in a 'nice' way.

 

How do you think the US got started ? In identical fashion .

It massacred the local tribes who were obviously inferior savages to their unsophisticated minds .
Decimated themselves in the Civil War and set up a system of new tribes which they politely refer to as States .
Did you expect the Egyptians , Iraqi and Libyans to be any different ?
They simply follow a clear development cycle .
So stop trying to feel superior and patronising .
It even happened in the Green and Pleasant Land , if you mug up on early History.
It just happened far longer ago here , than to the others mentioned --which neatly demonstrates why politically we are better developed than the fledgling States you refer to .
Plus the fact that as America knows --- quality always trumps sheer size

 

A Green and Pleasant Land...Hahaha.

 

So you are trying to lecture me but unfourantly you have not got the brains for it.

What are you really? A confused yank who displays such ignorance, i can't take you seriously.

Now, if you do want to lecture. First educate yourself to a higher level. Or i will mock your naive views. This topic for example. Either:

You are too stupid to realise, that Borat is trolling once again.

Or you agree with his bigoted views with muslims and his disrespect to europe. In which case i am fully justified in my continued statements such as this. Mentally damaged ignorant americans.

 

Here's a very simple clue Rev; don't give radical Muslims a reason to attack you and, guess what, they won't attack you...see how easy that can be?

 

I seem to recall underdeveloped Americans killing, maiming and torturing each other around the 1860s...and I daresay some of the idiot preppers living in their mountain enclaves getting ready for 'the day' would be quite happy to as well.

 

Pull yourself together .
Not a Green and Pleasant Land .
But
The Green and Pleasant Land .


And Mark Well these Prophetic words

"And did those feet in ancient time" is a short poem by William Blake from the preface to his epic Milton a Poem, one of a collection of writings known as the Prophetic Books. The date on the title page of 1804 for Milton is probably when the plates were begun, but the poem was printed c. 1808. Today it is best known as the anthem "Jerusalem", with music written by Sir Hubert Parry in 1916.
The poem was inspired by the apocryphal story that a young Jesus, accompanied by his uncle Joseph of Arimathea, travelled to the area that is now England and visited Glastonbury during Jesus' lost years. The legend is linked to an idea in the Book of Revelation (3:12 and 21:2) describing a Second Coming, wherein Jesus establishes a new Jerusalem. The Christian Church in general, and the English Church in particular, used Jerusalem as a metaphor for Heaven, a place of universal love and peace.
In the most common interpretation of the poem, Blake implies that a visit of Jesus would briefly create heaven in England, in contrast to the "dark Satanic Mills" of the Industrial Revolution. Analysts note that Blake asks four questions rather than asserting the historical truth of Christ's visit; According to this view, the poem says that there may, or may not, have been a divine visit, when there was briefly heaven in England. But that was then and now we are faced with the challenge of creating such a country once again.

 

Rev, has not got a clue.

He is the type of american who tries to lecture everyone else while at his core, he is completly racist and bigoted.

His whole view is see through. His religion is a sham, his trolling uninspired and what he is. Is very easy to learn.

 

No, they are not.

Could you please state which academic theory on development is at play in Egypt?

Even look at the posters with Egyptian citizenship on this forum.

Their country is falling into pieces and they are to preoccupied with inane conspiracy theories on why the Israeli ambassador is at the aeroport with his luggage. Or,... they keep on mambling about Israel killing poor Arabs, whilst the Syrian regime has killed more Arabs in the last year alone than Israel did in the last 30 years.

 

I suspect your attention flagged .
You repeat the very point that I made --- which is all States have to solve their tribal and sect differences before there is any long term chance of successfully progressing toward State unity of purpose and action .
Libya was a wonderful example with almost 40 different tribes under our good friend Gadaffi .
What happens when there is a power vacuum ?
Boom .

 

What do you think of Omar Suleimans conversation with Gaddaffi before any revolutions?

Suleiman the Head of Egyptian intelligence who practically lived in Washington and Tel Aviv.

 

Yeah...

Americans were so underdeveloped in the 1860's. They fought about the evils of slavery, and about which path to set their country on: federalism or confederacism.

Meanwhile, Egyptians kill eachother because they belong to an other football club and put in vaginal probes to check if the women are "honorful", Syrians kill eachother because they belong to a different ethnic group, and Libyans feed cloth (old Libyan flag) to every Sub-Saharan man they find on the streets and seem to have organized themselves as a wannabe GESTAPO.

Yeah, Americans were so underdeveloped.

Come'on Snake! You know better.

​

 

Be realistic, the americans created their own 'evils' of slavery. It was a self made problem. And for decades they fought to keep it.

Even now this terrible history is the glue to the usa society. As see on this forum, If prepared to look.

 

I see the advanced Americans have just killed an Iraqi lady for daring to come to the Fatherland while Muslim.

 

And your PM, Mr. Cameron, is charging EUR 300.000 (or whas it £ 300.000?) to dine with'm. Not even the American president indulges in such clear vulgarity, he charges about ten times less.

Whilst I certainly have criticism on US endevours in the Middle East -- it is not the average American that is to blame. It used to be that when a country went to war, the entire population "felt" it. That isn't the case anymore, thanks to political decisions made in the last 30 years.

In the USA, the military is "a state within the state". Which is a dangerous situation. It isn't for nothing that the most greatest of leaders, the American president Wilson, advocated "self-determination" in the realization that elites go to war, not peoples.

Anyways, to return to the point you made. Despite the very severe and dramatic sitation the USA is in -- it isn't quite a secret that the USA takes in a lot of Iraqi immigrants. It is their way of seeking redemption for shooting up that country. Cynical, I know.

 

I'm all for cultural sensitivity, but it has to go both ways. If they get to demand that we bootie our dogs, we get to make equally strong demands that they respect our democracy and our way of life. It's disrespect to march into someone's house and then go about telling them how to live and where to put the furniture.

That's just how it is. Has nothing to do with whether or not having interest free options are good or bad, simply that Western Europeans nations and America are liberal constitutional democracies. Muslims don't get to touch the rights of other people, including natives.

 

What they know about Western Europe, Islam or democracy in Hoggs' Hollow is, let's face it, a bit limited, and their best bet would be to stop organising crusades to conquer Islamic countries they know nothing whatever about. It is grotesque to have American rednecks ranting about our countries as if they had ever been let out to experience any of them!