Alan Dershowitz: Drop George Zimmerman’s murder charge

This is ghost tail for Z supporters because no jury is going to accept the claim T double backed to confront Z without evidence and there is absolutely no evidence this happened.

 

Timing in relationship to distances are still not precisely known. Anyone who states that knew exactly where each party was at times were there were no eyewitness accounts is merely using speculation.

What?

 

Its an irrational claim.. George probably realized he should have stayed in his truck to begin with so he concoted the lie that he was going BACK to his truck on the pot.. and now he's stuck with it.

 

There are three cut throughs to the broad grassy alley .. Every rowhouse on each side overlooks it with a kitchen window, a sliding glass door, and upstairs windows that look down on the alley.. which is like a common backyeard.

Its a lousy place for an ambush ..

George is lying about how it went down.

He wasn't returning to his truck.. and Trayvon didn't follow him.

 

You don't even know what happened yet you call people dishonest because they don't buy your fantasy. You are a sad person.

 

Of course, because you have already made up your mind and think you can read others.

 

What was Trayvon's motive for following GZ when he'd just run away from him?

Can you think of one?

Why would Trayvon still have been talking with Dee on the phone if he was following GZ to ambush him?

 

Y'all post about the shooting and NOT EACH OTHER. Don't make me get another mod in here to clean up this thread.

 

Ha.. I didn't realize you were a mod until just now.

 

I've never claimed to know 100% of what happened but we all know it is a fact Dee never said T doubled back to chase Z and that is what you are trying to say she said. I looked at a couple of far right sites and they are doing the same thing. One even claimed D said T was IN his dad's house.

The reason you make the false claim T doubled back is because yo know the shooting was not justified and Z has not been honest about what happened.

 

Youthful stupidity, machismo, any number of things can motivate a young man. Who is to say that T wasn't casing apartments and that is why DeeDee never came forward in the first place?

 

Why not say T was meeting with al qaeda? It's no less freaking dumb than what you are trying to claim.

 

There's no evidence he was casing apartments.

Why would you be on the phone with a friend if you were following someone to ambush them?

Dee lives in Broward county.. 250 miles away.. Her parent called and offered to drive her to SPD.. they weren't interested..

The person who insisted she be heard was Crump.. So she was interviewed by the FBI and FDLE weeks later.

 

Even if D was on the news five days after the shooting they would still accuse her of lying.

 

Yes they're like a lynch mob. Fortunately, they're a minority in general. And I suspect the jury will reflect the same as the general public.

 

They couldn't let the press go after her.. She's a young girl and she was devastated by what happened.

She and Trayvon were friends since kindergarten.

Her parents were smart to protect her from a media feeding frenzy.

 

Oh cow pies.... You have no idea what a lynch mob is.......

 

From the Rasmussen Reports website, dated May 22nd, 2012 --

I wonder if some people who so adamantly proclaim George Zimmerman's guilt feel like the Juror #3 (Lee J. Cobb) character in the film 12 Angry Men?

 

Of course there were. http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/trayvon-martin/martin-zimmerman-witness-758903

Are you kidding me?! Clearly you are not privy to the facts that are available to everyone (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...tin-killing-Teenager-drugs-autopsy-finds.html, http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/law/jan-june12/trayvonmartin_05-18.html. Forensic evidence demonstrates that Trevon's knuckles were bruised consistent with a fistfight.

We don't know that yet since there is much evidence that has not yet been released. We do know that his knuckles were broken/bruised and Zimmerman's blood was on Trevon's shirt.

So what? This has nothing to do with anything.

How are the distances inconsistent? All accounts I've seen state that the shooting occurred within a few feet at the most, which goes along with Zimmerman's account of the event.

And?

We don't know that yet now do we? There is undoubtedly much evidence that has not yet been released. Perhaps you should have learned a lesson and wait until all the facts are out before jumping to a conclusion.

 

Like I said, all you have is pure speculation and conjucture without substance. You still have yet to support your stance that Zimmerman, a Hispanic man with no history of a violent crime or racism, singled out Treyvon due to his skin color and attacked him first. THAT seems very far-fetched to me. Thus, I believe that it is still very plausible that Trayvon was the first aggressor and that Zimmerman acted in self defense.

 

There are a few questions additional here.

1) It seems, from the phone call between Treyvon and his girlfriend, that Zimmerman had lost sight of Treyvon. If true, then why didn't Treyvon, an athletically-built 17-year-old, either stay hidden or sprint back to his home?
2) How did Zimmerman, an obese 28-year-old, catch up with the slimmer, more athletic Treyvon while on foot. It seems that if Treyvon wanted to get away from Zimmerman, it would have been quite easy for him.
3) If your speculation is true and Zimmerman stalked and (somehow) caught up with Treyvon, then what was his motive for attacking first?
4) Why did the obese Zimmerman, who was about 5'8", physically attack Treyvon Martin, who, standing at 6'+, was a much more imposing figure?
5) Why did Zimmerman attack Treyvon first, especially since he knew that the police were already called and only minutes away?
6) If Zimmerman's initial goal was to murder Treyvon as soon as he left his car, then why didn't he just pull out his gun and shoot him without getting into a physical altercation first?

 

So you buy the BS story Crump made up and went to the media with? LOL Daisha broke the law by withholding information of a crime.

 

Here we go again. The media seems bent on continuing this lie even though every one of them has the autopsy. http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2012/images/05/17/trayvon.martin.autopsy.pdf?hpt=hp_t2 There were no injuries to Trayvon's knuckles.

There is a lot of evidence available. http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/sections/news/Zimmerman_Discovery.pdf

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Maybe because he thought he lost him and he wanted to talk to his friend on the phone in private.

Zimmerman is not obese.

My opinion is that Zimmerman was trying to prevent another "(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) from getting away".

Zimmerman was not obese. Trayvon was 5'11" and 158 lbs.

POssibly to keep him from getting away.

If anyone though his initial goal was to murder Trayvon, they would be saying Z is guilty of first degree premeditated murder. I don't remember anyone saying that.

 

GZ was arrested in 2005 for assaulting a DEA officer.. and had the charges dismissed because he did an alcohol program and an anger mgmt program.. That's why there a fatso mugshot from 2005.

 

Broke the law by witholding evidence? Don't make me laugh.. The SPD failed to interview several witnesses or even check the cell phone records..

Talk about sloppy!