Dearborn, Michigan Arab Festival

Discussion in 'Ethnic & Religious Conflicts' started by Dusty Rhodes, Oct 28, 2012.

  1. Marlowe

    Marlowe New Member

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    Well, IMO - americans - in general - are'nt the brightest , go ask your nearest neighbours , in Canada what they think of you guys .

    Hahahaha .



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  2. Dusty Rhodes

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    Does anyone actually care what an anonymous muslim appeasing poster on an internet forum says about Americans? LOL.
     
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    upside-down cake Well-Known Member

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    You know, Dusty, there are actually other Americans who think differently than you, right? or did you think we were Venezuelan?
     
  4. Dusty Rhodes

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    What exactly is it about my thinking process that you object to?
     
  5. SFJEFF

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    Considering we are all anonymous posters, why should anyone care what you say about Americans?
     
  6. Dusty Rhodes

    Dusty Rhodes Banned

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    Exactly. Why?
     
  7. SFJEFF

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    I think you have proven my point.
     
  8. Dusty Rhodes

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    And you have proven mine. God bless America.
     
  9. protectionist

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    1. There is no such thing as a "Muslim religion". Islam is an ideology masquerading as a religion, as millions of people around the world believe. And if you Google Islam - not a religion, you will get millions of results agreeing with me.

    2. So what if it's an attack on the Muslim ideology (masquerading as a religion) ??? It SHOULD be attacked, and furthermore, it should be banned in America, because of its violation of the US Constitution (Article 6, Section 2, the Supremacy Clause) and the federal Sedition law (US Code 2384, Seditious Conspiracy).

    http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...-islam-banned-usa-asked-us-citizens-only.html

    http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...0-mosques-have-radical-imams-does-matter.html
     
  10. SFJEFF

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    Of course it is a religion- millions of results on the web just shows what a few thousand obsessed Islamophobic whacko's can accomplish.

    And i am not surprised that these far right bigots want to try to sidestep the Constitution by just saying "It ain't a religion because- well we say it ain't". The First Amendment exists just to protect minorities from people like you.
     
  11. Dusty Rhodes

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    Wrong. "Protection of minorities" does not mean they are allowed to break the law and commit violence in the name of their religion. Some people can't seem to comprehend that concept.
     
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    Whoa- reading comprehension could be your friend if you give it the opportunity.

    Our homophobic friend that I was responding to, opined that that Islam could just be declared not a religion and the First Amendment ignored- to which I responded:
    And i am not surprised that these far right bigots want to try to sidestep the Constitution by just saying "It ain't a religion because- well we say it ain't". The First Amendment exists just to protect minorities from people like you.

    I agree completely that the First Amendment does not mean anyone can break the law or commit violence. I am fine with anyone doing either thing be arrested.

    First Amendment protects not only our rights to Freedom of Speech, but also Freedom of Religion.

    Some people can't seem to comprehend that concept.
     
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    Dusty Rhodes Banned

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    Do you condemn the muslim violence at the Dearborn Arab Festival?
     
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    Of course it is NOT a religion. A religion is a system of worship of a superhuman power with a code of ethics. Unlike Christianity, which has a distinct code of ethics, Islam's philosophy is more like a code of UNethics, since so many of the things it espouses are just that > UNethical (genocide, wife-beating, rape, pedophilia, kidnapping/slavery, lying, stealing, animal cruelty/killing, killing gays, killing apostates, torture/mutilation, etc., ad infinitum, ad nauseum)

    And Islam is not a religion just because a few million wackos (ie. Muslims) say it is. It has to pass an ethics test to do that, and it FLUNKS that test with flying colors. Islam is just the opposite of a religion. And to say only "far right bigots" call Islam a non-religion is ridiculous. How can anybody, anywhere, ever call Islam a religion, when it advocates so much immorality ? It's impossible to classify Islam as a religion, and lots of people on the left have objected to Islam and its crazy ideas, not just people on the right. :no::no::no:

    And sure. Look at the Muslim Islamist hiding behind the first Amendment, as they typically do. Problem for him is the first amendment gives Islam no protection because it is not a religion, and because it violates the Constitution's Supremacy Clause and Sedition law.
     
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    I condemn the violence at the Dearborn Arab Festival.

    The religion of who committed the crime is not only immaterial, we are assuming that all of them are Muslims.

    But absolutely I condemn the violence- absolutely- and we should all condemn those who commit violent crimes.

    Do you condemn the posters claim that the First Amendment can be ignored by just claiming that Islam is not a religion?
     
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    Of course it is a religion- millions of results on the web just shows what a few thousand obsessed Islamophobic whacko's can accomplish. Over a billion people around the world worship the God that Mohammed claimed to be the prophet of.

    And i am not surprised that these far right bigots want to try to sidestep the Constitution by just saying "It ain't a religion because- well we say it ain't". The First Amendment exists just to protect minorities from people like you.

    First they came for the Communists....and I said nothing because I wasn't a communist...

    Then they came for the jews.....and I said nothing because I wasn't a jew....

    ....
     
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    Of course. All the violence was done by muslims in that video. This is not about the constitutional right to religious freedom. This is about Islamist control. No religion is allowed to control other Americans in this country.
     
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    But that's irrelevant to Islam because it's not a religion, and even if it was a religion, itwould still have to be in harmony with the US Constitution and US laws. Islam violates them (Article 6, section 2), US Code 2384, and lots of US laws like those mentioned on Post # 114.
     
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    Islamist thugs want to use our laws to control others and then claim bigotry when they are told to obey our laws. The naive on the left can't see it. The moonbat left honestly believes Chrisitan conservatives are a bigger threat than Islamist gangsters. Ignorance.
     
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    The first amendment is not being ignored. It simply has no connection to Islam (a non-religion). What is being ignored by the US government is the US Constitution's supremacy clause, and US Code 2384, which declare Islam to be illegal, and so it should be banned in America. The government is not doing its job..

    http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...-islam-banned-usa-asked-us-citizens-only.html
     
  21. SFJEFF

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    According to our founding fathers, the religion of the Muslims- and somehow I think they count more than your bizarre theories.

    From the Treaty of Tripoli:
    As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion,—as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen [Muslims],—

    And like every other religion in the United States, its followers must follow the Constitution and laws of the United States. Just as Christians cannot choose to stone to death an adulterer because someone decides that is what the Old Testament says, no Muslim can choose to break the law without legal consequences.

    That is what the First Amendment is all about. And protecting all of us from the dictates of those who would deny any of us our relgious freedoms.
     
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    How do you know that each of them were 'muslims'? Seriously- I agree they probably were- but you are speculating.

    No religion is allowed to control other Americans in this country. And that is how it should be.

    This is about you wanting to make this about all Muslims when by all accounts we are talking about a few individuals responding to the legitimate freedom of expression of Christians who were there to antagonize them.

    The day Westboro Church members get beaten up, I expect you to be here condemning the violence there also. I am against violence but I really detest people like the Westboro Church and these 'Christians' who act like this.
     
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    I think the extreme Christians like these people and the Westboro Church to name others are deliberately provocative.

    I think that there are real Muslim terrorists.

    And I think there are bigots who just want Americans to be scared of other Americans.

    Not so long ago it was the Jews. Before that the Catholics. Right now its the Muslims.
     
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    They could say what you quoted 200 years ago, and we can say what we say now. What we say NOW is what counts. We can make laws, amend the Constitution, whatever. I know of no one suggesting that we should however, change the Supremacy clause. As such Islam is illegal and should be banned. Islamic teaching should be stopped, those engaging in it should be arrested, and all Korans should be eliminated. Mosques should be converted into churches, homeless shelters, animal shelters, or something for good purposes.
     
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    The muslims were the only ones stoning people. Christians don't stone people, muslims do.
     

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