Part 2 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

My comprehension skills are fine. You are the one claiming God using evil somehow isnt really evil.

 

Good now that you have accepted, let us move to the next question.
No, dogs and animals have no human soul, Heaven is only for human souls.

You should rephrase the question, will you go to heaven?

 

God's infinite wisdom is to end all the terrorism and wickedness before the earth and Heaven get taken over. I don't understand why you would like to live in a society or civilization where there is no law and order, where everyone can kill anyone, where rape, beastiality, theft, slavery all kinds of evilness exist
Genesis 6:5-7
5 Then the Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. 6 And the Lord was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. 7 So the Lord said, “I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth, both man and beast, creeping thing and birds of the air, for I am sorry that I have made them.”

The evilness of men where not isolated in action but in thoughts, mind and spirit. You have to remember God is the good guy here.

I guess base on your argument we in the West should not fight and kill the terrorist, or shoot down civilian aircraft with innocent civilians on it that terrorist has seize and is about to crash it on civilian population. Ok, now I know you are on the side of the bad guys I hope I am wrong.

 

Again, blame the scientist not me.

 

Okkkk, then you are lying again first you said you have no time to watch now you said you have already seen it all. Does not matter the bottom line is it is the scientist who have made the discoveries that the Noah flood did happen and it coincide with science, you best talk to those scientist first see if you can change their mind.

 

Only evil people will claim God is doing evil. There is no overall good purpose evilness is already existing and God step forward to help and secure the only good person that is Noah. God use goodness to destroy evil by killing all the evil people.

Genesis 6:5-7
5 Then the Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. 6 And the Lord was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. 7 So the Lord said, “I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth, both man and beast, creeping thing and birds of the air, for I am sorry that I have made them.”

 

OK, so God killed off humanity because he thought mankind was evil. So what? Are we less evil than people were before the flood? If that's so they they were some very bad people. The story is nonsense.

 

Sadly proving the Bible with itself does not prove anything.The Sumerians one of the oldest civilizations known had their flood myth and it eerily reads like the Genesis account:

http://library.thinkquest.org/C005854/text/mythfarworld_f.htm

So living before any christian or Jew the Sumerians had already created the fllood story. The very heart of this Bible rest in ancient Egypt.The Egyptians recorded all yearly floods and their records are still extant; dating from the 3rd reign 1st dynasty on the Palermo Stone concluding in the 3rd reign of the 5th dynasty records the yearly flooding (Wilkinson 2010: 45). Therefore, we know there could be no “worldwide flooding” after the reign of Aha (2nd king 1st Dynasty).

Wilkinson 2010: The Rise and Fall of the Egyptian Empire by Toby A.H. Wilkinson printed 2010 by Random House. Dr. Wilkinson is considered to be one of the foremost experts in Pre-Dynastic Egypt.

Greek mythology talks about three floods.

Post-Glacial Sea-levels:

http://www.ancient-wisdom.co.uk/underwater.htm

 

So heaven is only for humans? Thats strange because I thought it was supposed to be eternal happiness. Eternal happiness for me would be to be united with my pets who have passed away.
No I dont need to rephrase anything. Another reason why you lost the last argument is because you keep trying to change the question rather than answer the ones asked. From what you describe heaven is a stark place. No animals? No birds chirping, no dogs, no cats, just humans?!?!? oh my, that sounds like Hell not Heaven. Are you sure you got your bearings straight?

 

you shall not bear false witness against thy neighbor.
You are insulting me now instead of answering the question? Im on the side of terrorists because I asked you a question you couldnt answer? Thats a lie. How sinful of you. Im on the side of terrorists because I dont agree with you? Now I see why religious people start so may wars. You have no tolerance for those who disagree with you. How sinful. Based on your argument we should kill everyone in the world if a group of people are terrorists. And you once again have equated mans power to god. God could have waved his hand and only taken away the evil people. To kill them all isnt intelligent because why would you let man start over and expect different results? If you really wanted to eradicate evil, God should have killed ONLY the evil people and left the innocent, that way the innocent moral people would be left to breed and pass on their peaceful genes. God if all knowing should have known this.

 

Its that old cognitive dissonance that the fundy waves as his flag of identity.

 

Show us a fundy who does not rely on multiple falsehoods and false witnessing to advance his case. Its kind of eerie coming from the people who claim to believe in a god who disapproves such things.

 

oh dear, and you speak of someone else lying?

There was no world wide flood, anyone who says there was is lying, and any claim that science shows there was is a liar.

 

There is zero evidence ever found by any scientist that the world was under water.

You are not to blame for lying? Are you that far gone??

 

'ahhhh grasshopper, you have learned'


'take the pebble from my hand'

 

Well, I couldnt even see what the videos were until i used my Kindle, but I digress. Apparently I'm a liar and you are still the guy who can't name one factual piece of evidence talked about in either of those videos that validates your claims of a worldwide flood. Seems like you haven't even watched them yourself.

 

Yep, your all knowing God somehow was surprised that he failed at making his creation work, therefore he decides to euthanize us. Instead of a quick and painless death, he decides to drown every person on the planet.

 

God didn't thought humanity was evil, humanity was evil. Humanity became evil and they were so evil worse than we can imagine, worse than the Taliban, worse than Pol Pot, worse than Idi Amin, Stalin, Mao or Hitler.
Genesis 6:5-7
5 Then the Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. 6 And the Lord was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. 7 So the Lord said, “I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth, both man and beast, creeping thing and birds of the air, for I am sorry that I have made them.”

Well, all I can say is you have the right to defend evil, justify evil, promote evil in fact all these about tough question for Christians is not about learning the truth it is about the justification, promoting and defence of evil. It is no none sense that up to this day evil still exist and good people continue to struggle and stay on guard in containing evil from taking over the whole world again.

 

Yes Heaven is for human souls only. If your happiness is to be with your pets than you have a wrong concept of eternal happiness.
The question is answered straight forward but because you can not accept you keep on twisting pretending that you are representing good and refuse to answer will you go to Heaven? Maybe we already know the answer?
You forgot the ants, spiders, lizards, crocodiles, dinosaurs, grizzlies, deer, shark, piranha, snakes, etc. etc. how about plants and trees you think they go to Heaven to after the trees have been chop down, oh I forgot in your mind set "murder"? Now you see whose bearings is off.

I am not insulting you, I am being truthful it is unfortunate that you can not see that. You ask question is not to learn about the truth you can't even accept your own science all you want to hear and promote is that it is okay to live in a wicked and evil world. Tolerance....we have so much tolerance that and evidence of that can be seen base on the FACT of REALITY that atheist, racist, homosexuals, anti Christ etc. co-live in our community even though how much they insult us, or disrespect us we tolerate and accept them into our community.

God did spare the innocent, He spare Noah, his family and anyone who would have listen and go with Noah. Remember, God said to Noah:
Genesis 6:8-9
8 But Noah found favor in the eyes of the Lord.
9 This is the account of Noah and his family. Noah was a righteous man, blameless among the people of his time, and he walked faithfully with God. 10 Noah had three sons: Shem, Ham and Japheth.


Genesis 6:11-13
11 Now the earth was corrupt in God’s sight and was full of violence.
12 God saw how corrupt the earth had become, for all the people on earth had corrupted their ways.
13 So God said to Noah, “I am going to put an end to all people, for the earth is filled with violence because of them. I am surely going to destroy both them and the earth.

It was very crystal clear that the wickedness, evilness and corruption was gigantic worse than we can imagine, but you refuse to see that instead you continue to insist that there was no evilness, no wickedness, no absolute corruption why? Why blame God why not men for being the cause of all the wickedness? I am sure atheist who do not believe in God will blame their fellow humans for any evil that is committed either against them or others. Who does atheist blame do they blame fellow atheist or do they blame only Christians for every bad things or short comings in their own lives?

 

You continue to deny the facts of reality the facts that your own science has proof that a great flood did happen and that such a flood is instrumental in shaping the earth's continent. Such extreme denial I thought are only reserve to the holocaust deniers but I guess I am wrong.

 

It was men who failed not God, again every person at that time except for Noah were extremely evil and wicked and they died the way they were design to be, death through natural causes through the great flooding.

First you should decide for yourself were they wicked and evil? If you say they are not then provide proof so far no proof that they were not wicked and evil. Do you consider spiders or rats as evil, eerie? If so what do those pest control people do, they exterminate them wholesale including the baby spiders, baby rats creatures that have not yet done anything evil to you but why would you have them exterminated their whole colony are those pest really that evil that you would destroy them?

You have that free will to disagree with the scientist but that does not change the facts of reality that a great flood did happen and was instrumental in shaping the world and that another great flood is in the forecast according to the scientist. I have presented to you including the most simplest one from Bill Nye (science guy) unfortunately you are not really interested in science or truth but it is about attacking good.

 

And God knew that it would happen, did he not?

I just find it odd that a merciful and loving God considers his creations, no matter how wicked, deserving of dying a slow and painful death.

HAHAHAH, you think Bill Nye thinks there was a Great Flood?! Hahahahah

 

LOL so now you know what my eternal happiness should be? You know what makes me happy more than I do? If there are no trees, no snakes, no bugs, no birds, no nothing other than human souls, that doesnt sound like eternal happiness to me at all. It sounds exactly like hell. I prefer trees, snakes, dogs, lizards, bugs, over spending eternity with souls that believe I need worship something and agree with their ideology or be outcast. My dog required nothing of me other than my friendship. You and people like you however require a long list of things I need to do in order to spend eternity....with you.
Secondly, you lied. You say you were being truthful when you said I am on the side of terrorists in a public forum? when I have done nothing other than disagree with you. You have soiled my name simply because I asked you a question and had the audacity to disagree with you. You are a sinner by your own definition.
The you say this"
"God did spare the innocent, He spare Noah, his family and anyone who would have listen and go with Noah. Remember, God said to Noah:"
So a 2 yr old in a remote village somewhere who did not have access to noah was a sinner and deserved to be drowned? Your ideology and mine are quite different. I believe in peace and letting creatures live out their natural lives in peace, your ideology is rife with murder, sacrafice, war, worship and slaughter of animals. You state heaven allows apparently nothing other than humans. What do we walk around in empty space for eternity interacting only with souls who believe in the above? Wow that sounds pretty awful. Just awful. My heaven is much different than yours and my god doesnt require anything other than to be a good person. Worship is mans process of brainwashing. I remember being forced as a child to make a confession and admit I did something wrong, when I hadnt done anything wrong. If that isnt brainwashing of a child I dont know what is. I view that in and of itself a sin.

 

There is so much evidence against the Biblical flood story and creation account .. It would take someone with the mind of a holocause denier to believe such an irrational story.

The flood supposedly happened around 2000 - 2400 BC wiping out all humanity.

The first problem with this story is that we have found numerous continuous civilizations throughout this period all over the world. Egypt, Sumeria, China, Africa, Europe, South America, India, Australia .. and so on.

If everyone on the Earth was dead in 2200 BC .. then why was there an entire civilization of people in South America in 2199 BC ?
At the same time we also have people in various other parts of the world of completely different races.

Are you suggesting Noah, his 3 sons and wives managed to generate entire civilizations of different races of people throughout the world in a year or two ? This is absurd.

1) There is no continuous flood layer dating 4-5000 years ago. This is a very short period on a geological time scale and would be very easy to detect if it were true. The claim that such a thing exists is utter nonsense to any geologist.

2) Ice cores are dated to "at least" over 700,000 years .. this is very accurate (like tree ring dating) ..the small error that does exist .. (some layers being merged together- resulting in 2 or more years being counted as only one) results in an lower estimation of the actual time .. hence the "at least"

3) How did Noah get collect all the animals (2 polar bear from the arctic, and a 2 Spectacled bears from South America for example)

It would have taken Noah and Sons years get just the 2 polar bear (walking to the Arctic and back) assuming such a thing was even possible, survival of harsh conditions, capturing the bear (its not like they had stun guns) .. and so forth.

Getting animals from places like South America was not even possible. This is rediculously absurd. It would have taken many centuries to collect all the animals required. Who feeds and cares for these animals while Noah and sons are away.

By time they collected about 50 different animals from far away lands .. the previous animals would be dying because of the length of time needed.

Then .. assuming Noah did do this .. How did these animals get back home ? A Kangaroo can not swim back to Australia.

I have only given a very small amount of the hard evidence against the Biblical Creation story .. there is much more, but might as well start with these examples and see what you come up with.

 

Quote Posted by mihapiha:

And if you're honest, nobody fully follows the bible. Whether it's something minor as lying or not turning the other cheek when being hit or not loving your enemies or something else. By the teachings of Christianity it's most likely that pretty much everyone ends up in hell after judgement day anyhow because we are all sinners...
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Well I wouldn't exactly say "pretty much everyone ends up in hell after judgment day" but according to Scripture more will be in hell than in heaven.

Jesus Christ said, "You can enter God's Kingdom only through the narrow gate. The highway to hell is broad, and its gate is wide for the many whose choose that way. But the gateway to life is very narrow and the road is difficult and only a few ever find it." Matt. 7:13-14 NLT

Jesus Christ also said, "For God loved the world so much that He gave His one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 NLT