Part 2 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

And he left sinful man on earth to repopulate another sinful world

 

No, God didn't knew because He gave men the freedom and responsibility, God present the laws for men to follow and those laws are all about being good.



I just find it odd that a merciful and loving God considers his creations, no matter how wicked, deserving of dying a slow and painful death.

Yup, Bill explain it well that the great flood (not the Noah's flood) did affect the earth geographically and climatically, he also explain the process of rain, flood, and its effects.

 

So, you dont think your God is omniscient?

Well, you just made it easy to prove you're a liar, here is an interview with the man you just claimed supported Noah's Ark:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2012/08/28/bill-nye-creationism_n_1837505.html


" Did you ever believe in creationism? If so, what changed your mind?"

The biblical stories were presented to me, but they never seemed reasonable.

I remember asking about Noah's ark. Did he look after the invertebrates: the bees, for example? What about the yellow-jackets? And, the black wasps that stung me a few times? All those ants? There's no mention of the most numerous organisms in my world. As a kid, I remember imagining a series of barges full of soil to be pulled like trailers behind this big boat. Grownups explained that it was just a story (whatever that meant). I remember asking, what was the point of the story? What was this guy's idea to get animals two-by-two? What did he hope to accomplish, if all the bees, worms, oak trees, and rosebushes were gone? Let alone the question: why did he let the poison ivy come back? He missed a huge opportunity, etc. It was never satisfying to my mind."

 

Quote Posted by mihapiha:
Why is immortality of the soul a good thing?
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If there is no immortality of the soul then you are the accidental by-product of nature, a result of matter plus time plus chance. There is no reason for your existence. All you face is death. So why are you living? You have no purpose, your life is meaningless!

 

Whats wrong with facing death? Did you ever think the real gift is the gift of the life we are living right now?

 

Did you ever think maybe you should stop insulting others and trying to force your will on people? Then maybe they wont be so angry with you. If you have to force your ideolgy on people it doesnt say much for it now does it.

 

Do you believe in witches?

 

So you consider tolerance as being insulting, sorry you feel that way now I understand why you are so much against good things.

 

You said it not me, for you eternal happiness is to be with your pets and now bugs to. Of course your dog does not require anything from you as long you you don't kick him/her around that is how simple animals are they don't have the human intelligence to be greedy, sinful, evil or wicked or to be all good.

Again you claim that God kill all innocent people even though God was very clear everyone were wicked and evil, God did not just woke up one morning and decided to destroy humanity. You insist that all those people that God said were wicked and evil are not so what does that makes you? wicked supporter. Example: Al Qaeda, supporters of Al Qaeda are called what?.... terrorist supporters. You need to make up your mind are you on the side of evil or not? You did more than disagree you insist that I being a supporter of God whom you accuse of murdering what you term as innocent that I am a supporter of an evil God, now you see even though it is crystal clear that God is not evil but men were.

How did you know that there was or were 2 year old innocent? You use the Bible to claim that God committed murder contradicting what the Bible said read the Bible clearly if you want to use it to present your argument if you insist something different what the Bible does not say that is called lying.
Genesis 6:2-7
2 that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose.

3 And the Lord said, “My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, for he is indeed flesh; yet his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.”

4 There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.

5 Then the Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

6 And the Lord was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart.

7 So the Lord said, “I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth, both man and beast, creeping thing and birds of the air, for I am sorry that I have made them.”

Yes our ideology is totally different, you believe that all creatures must be allow to live in peace so do I and so does God but you blame God for being good and for making tough decisions for the sins, evilness of men, that men committed themselves. That is why God had to do the tough decision to stop the wickedness and evilness of men being inflicted in this planet their wickedness is so unimaginable much worse than Hitler, Stalin, Taliban, Pol Pot, Mao etc.

There maybe still a tiny room in your soul because God is totally against murder, sacrifices, war, slaughter, evil worshipping and chaos things that you have said you are against. You just have to put it in its proper spot prospectively.

Aren't you already trying to brainwash me? You claim you were sinned when you were a child, and you blame God for that? now you know what this world is.

 

Yes

Well there you again, I said Bill Nye supported the great flood, I didn't say he supported Noah's story. You keep on insisting truth is lie, do you now believe that Bill accept that flooding can cause or is instrumental in the shaping of the earth? Don't tell me you don't believe it is from your own source.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2012/08/28/bill-nye-creationism_n_1837505.html

Yes, I believe that every creatures were created according to their kind. If humans evolve from apes you should ask yourself how come apes have stop evolving to human now, which ape species did the Europeans, Chinese, Hindi, Arabs, Africans, Aztecs, etc. evolved from?

It require spiritual meditation and concentration just like Buddha was able to achieve total oneness with God.

If you ever do some serious soul searching and ask yourself why scientist make theories and people accept them as is, isn't it just a story as well? Is poison ivy an evil plant? Just look at all the check and balance of nature so well coordinating, now who is going to check humans definitely not the animals or insects or nature.....so who?...think about it...God.

Going back to your question about insects and bugs, God did said to Noah;
Genesis 6:20
20 Of the birds after their kind, of animals after their kind, and of every creeping thing of the earth after its kind, two of every kind will come to you to keep them alive.

Now, that is why the church fathers spend their entire adult life researching all these words and other documents including scientific discoveries and eventually understand that some creatures, bugs, insects and organism will survive for the sin and the destruction of the earth has to do with humans.

 

No you spoke of how tolerant you were of homosexuals and atheists. Im not against good things at all. Do you really believe your view of a good thing is better than my view? If so explain your derivation. So far all I have done is speak of peaceful kind things. You have spoke, first committing sin by lying and saying I am associated with terrorists (for no reason) when I have done nothing of the sort to even remotely show that, now you say I am against good things when clearly I am not. You have contradicted yourself on multiple occasions, then you take you anger out on me when I dare question you about it. You have said my view of my own eternal happiness is not correct. It goes on and on.
Lastly not once did I ever actually say I dont believe. The thread says post your tough question regarding christianity. I have, the OP has yet to respond (telling), you have responded but refuse to answer questions in a straight forward manner. And when I press you on answers you get angry and insult me.
So witches....true or false?

 

God is against murder, sacrafice, war, slaughter? History proves that is not true. Most of the wars and human atrocities have been committed over whos god is the right god. Christianity being the most violent by a mile.
Oh, and My heaven allows dogs, peaceful people, insects and trees and anything that makes me happy. I prefer that thought over the thought of spending eternity with "only" human souls. "Crusades" ring a bell?
I am curious to know how you know dogs dont have souls and only humans do. You do realize you only think this because another human wrote it down for you and told you it was true. What were the dinosaurs a billion year accident?

 

Wow, and now it becomes apparent that you have never read The Bible in its totality. God is against war? He told the Israelites to destroy multiple peoples in Canaan while enslaving their children and raping their wives. God is against sacrifices? He repeatedly calls the aroma of sacrifices pleasing. Against slaughter? He slaughters children to punish the parents.

 

So God is just as clueless to the future as the rest of humanity? And you explain prophesies and The Book of Revelation how?

Wow. Are you so dense as to not see the difference between 1) accepting water erodes rock and 2) accepting that thousands of years ago the entire Earth was flooded in an act of divine retribution?

/face palm

This paragraph pretty much solidifies that you don't even know what evolution is. There is no set path for evolution; we aren't the final product of some long chain of sequences. You imagine evolution as a ladder when in reality it unfolds like a family tree. I have cousins, sons and daughters of my father's brothers and sisters. All primates are our cousins, in a sense. They were born from the "uncle or aunt" species that came before them. We was born from our "father" species. But both my "father" and "uncle or aunt" species are related because before them there was a "grandfather" species who gave birth to them. Does that make sense?

No, and it's sad that you think that.

Or, you know, nobody. We have already destroyed thousands of species and continue to do so every year.

... Wow, those weren't my questions to you, that was Bill Nye responding to a question in an interview. If you had actually read my link you would have caught onto that quite quickly instead of sputtering.

What do you think a "kind" is? You keep mentioning kinds, which is a term from the Bible, but no Christian I have met is able to describe what it is.

 

If you speak that wickedness and evilness is good (which it really is not but because you are confuse), which that is what you are implying in accusing God of wiping out humanity because of humanity's wickedness and evilness for you that is not wicked and evil and that for God to do that is wrong then, yes my view is better than yours because I understand evil and good.

Uhm, interesting you have been accusing me of lying for answering your questions and for you that is speaking in peaceful kind? Who is angry, surely not me. There you go you yourself said that your eternal happiness is to be with your pet dog and then you added bugs and insects it is not me who said that but you.

Yes, post your tough questions and those questions were answered you didn't like them because I refuse to deny God and for that you insist that I am lying?

True.

 

You see your bias thoughts and opinion is very clear it is about hating Christianity it is not about seeking truthful answers. You said Christianity is the in terms of violent wars?? Maybe you should check out Islam up to this date Islam is still on the war rampage. History has proof one thing men will exploit God for their own personal and evil ambition to oppress, suppress and control others, not God.

Yes, the Crusades ring a very loud bell thanks to the Crusades modern civilization prosper to where it is now, if not for the Crusades you won't be here in this forum. See you said it again your eternal happiness is to be with your dogs for you humans are the most evil (for you humans will not bring you happiness why is it because they are evil?) then you should understand now why God had to destroy humanity at that time.

How do you know dogs have soul? I know dogs have no human soul ( notice I said human soul) you really think dogs have human soul? Then Houston we have a big problem!

 

That is very strange coming from a person who is so much against God to claim that he / she is more knowledgeable of the Bible? What Bible are you reading? The Canaanit were at war with the Hebrews they were to destroy the Hebrews their army were greater and the Hebrews didn't know what to do they felt they are no match. The Cannaaites were anti God and God made the tough decision for the Hebrews as the way wars were fought at that time which is very brutal, I assume you prefer the Hebrews just to let the Canaanite destroy them. Human sacrifice, modern science have reveal that ancient civilization in Central America and other parts of the world have been practising human sacrifice that include babies, head hunting, ethnic cleansing of other tribes. God is against human sacrifice that is why lambs were use instead of humans. Aroma of sacrifices none human sacrifices. Slaughter the children that were taught by their parents to do evil and wicked things in today's term those are child suicide bombers, child soldiers....according to Spartan tradition their children are train to be mean killing warriors and any weak children are expendable.

 

You are twisting the facts. Again. You said I am associated with terrorists. That is not answering a question. You are a liar as pure fact. And you still wont retract or apologize.
So Witches are True? Do you believe in drowning witches?
Secondly, I never asked you to deny you God. I asked you to explain it. You and the OP cannot. You are making contradicting statements. Insults. Lies, (see above), say I dont know what happiness is, but you do, say your view is better than mine because you understand good and evil.
So Witches are True? Do you believe in drowning witches since they are evil? How do you know a Witch is really a Witch? Is there a test?

 

Don't know about drowning but they believed in BURNING the HELL out of them....(i.e. Salem Witchcraft Trials).

 

A) Never said I hated Christianity, just asking you to explain it. Its very contracting. (Professes peace yet has been the most violent in history as a pure fact) Islam is also violent (right now) no argument there. But History proves it less violent than Christianity. Again thats a Fact not open to conjecture.
Also never said God started the wars. Its the crazy fundamentals who kill in the name of God that do. Like I dunno....people who get angry when you question their religion.
B) Never said I didnt want to be with humans. I do not want to be with humans who force their will upon me. People like you. Many many Humans bring me great joy. They are the ones that are peaceful and kind. I have my own will and vision of heaven and the fact is your version is no more correct than mine. Since you said it is, how about you prove it. I use my own brain to comprehend why we are here based on the things. Your brain uses the story telling of radical fundamentalists from thousands of years ago. You keep saying you know evil and good and that I am aligned with terrorists yet out of the two of us you are the one aligned with a philosophy that has killed more people in history. Mine has killed none. Using logical thinking, that demonstrates, clearly, that you are the one that doesnt understand good and evil.
C) read this sentence you wrote very carefully:
"How do you know dogs have soul? I know dogs have no human soul ( notice I said human soul) you really think dogs have human soul? Then Houston we have a big problem"
Clearly I asked how do you know dogs dont have souls. I never said human soul. You acknowledge this at the beginning of your sentence, then by the end of your sentence change it to state I believe dogs have "human" souls. Dont you ever ask yourself why you have to change other peoples words to fit your argument? Religious people often twist others words and I am wondering why they need to do this. Why cant you simply answer the question directly as asked?
Ill ask it an easier way. I have to assume you believe there is only a human soul, nothing else, therefore only humans are found in heaven? Is this True?

 

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Uh, no they weren't. Moses and the future Israelites had just been wandering the deserts for 40 years before setting foot in Canaan. Do you not know your own theology? How did the Israelites come into contact with the Canaanites, let alone be at war with them if they hadn't even set foot into the holy land?

They weren't anti-God, they were following a different God, which was Yahwew's excuse to destroy them.

So... God's plan to stop genocide and child sacrifice... Is to genocide them and enslave their children. And he is supposed to be benevolent?

God is against human sacrifice... But sacrifices his own son in the most brutal fashion. He is against human sacrifice... But barely stops Abraham from sacrificing Isaac. Gotcha.

So your God is too feeble to change the mind of a child? Glorious God is he, huh?

 

Yes, being from Massachusetts, I know of the trials very well. Every time I drive through there I think about the atrocities the religious fanatics did to innocent people who had done nothing other than exist. But actually in the salem witch trials, they didnt burn them. They hanged them using a method called the short drop method. It is a extremely excrutiating painful way to die. You simply hang by the neck until you die slowly of strangulation. This was what they did in Salem. With the exception of one man whowas gradually crushed to death by adding stone upon stone on him.
In other areas of the globe they did burn and they also drowned them. Basically, they dunked them with weights. If they floated to the surface, they were witches, if the sank and died they were actually innocent. How peaceful.

 

Thanks for reminding me of this. I remember this from Genesis. I had a huge argument with my sunday school teacher over this. I could not accept the fact that a pure god would go through the motions of asking a man to sacrafice his only son just to see if he believes in him. Think of the mental torture Abraham was put through as well as his son. I bet his son was sleeping with one eye open after that. Its one of the many striking hypocrisy found in the bible. No true god would need to do this. God needed to push a man to almost murder his son just to see if he is loyal. The test to me ended backwards for this reason. To pass a peaceful gods test, Abraham should have said I will not murder my son nor anyone for no reason. Thats should have been the asnwer God was looking for, but in this case God was happy that Abraham was willing to murder for him if asked to.
That was striking for me even as a second grader.

 

Always wanted to visit there but cash is a problem.

 

You did not respond to the questions in my post to you.