Part 5 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

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  1. WanRen

    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    Yes, we are all literate the difference is that I understand the Holy Bible and have not use my literacy to undermine, misread, distort or misinterpret the Holy Bible.

    Just like Bill Gates or Steve Jobs uses their literacy about computer technology to its fullest potential, we must do the same when it comes to reading and understanding the Bible for all its worth and not to try to use our literacy to invert what the Bible is not.

    It is good that you have highlighted those words and letters I hope that you will understand why the Holy Bible is the Word of God by now.
    Yes I have that is why we have this thread "Post your tough questions regarding Christianity" and thanks to this this thread I have discover just how many literate people have been undermining, misinterpreting, distorting and misreading the Holy Bible.
     
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    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    As I have said before, English may not be my first language but I understand the Bible more than you and it is very sad that English being your first language you can't understand or have use your English language abilities to distort and invert the Bible. That is why English people may claim English is their language but they hardly understand their own language. There is a reason why the Bible was translated to English and that is to cater to English people sadly, English people like you don't understand the English translated Bible.

    It really make me proud that I understand the English Bible better than English speaking people such as you. :pray:
     
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    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    It is good that you care, Noah live for 950 years.
    Genesis 9
    28 And Noah lived after the flood three hundred and fifty years.

    29 And all the days of Noah were nine hundred and fifty years: and he died.


    How did you know he can't swim? He survive the great flood and later live for another 350 years not only can he swim but he can fish as well.
     
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    Anybody can live through a flood floating in an over sized tree trunk.
     
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    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So how did he live for 950 years without his cell structure breaking down completely? Humans cant live that long. Period. How does the bible explain the physical process that enabled him to live past his bodies natural lifespan? I want the scientific reason the bible states this occurred. Thats good stuff, because we can use it to help others fight diseases like cancer. Why wouldnt god want us to do that?
     
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    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    Yes anybody can live through a flood floating in an oversize tree truck, unfortunately nobody heeded to Noah's warning and only Noah and his family survive by building an ark. I guess if the rest of the people had done the same more would have survive.
     
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    Should we have confidence in the sincerity of Jesus the Christ, regarding the wealthiest?
     
  8. WanRen

    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    Noah live up to 950 years because he was one of those special humans just like you have no explanation how can some people be smarter than the rest that these few individuals have the ability to invent and create new materials that majority of humans could not. Noah's natural life span is 950 years there is no explanation needed except that God allow him to live 950 years.

    Genesis 6
    1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,

    2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

    3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
    8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord.

    10 And Noah begat three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth.


    11 The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence.

    12 And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.

    13 And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.

    Modern science and medicine can only extend life to 120 maybe 130 years that's it, no amount of modern science and technology can extend human life beyond 130 years because God has put a limit to human life span because of the wickedness of humans. Noah found grace and he live for 950 years.
     
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    So the Bible has no explanation as to the process involved in keeping a human alive for 950 years? Also, so basically anyone who dies of cancer like a 7 yr old little girl is considered "wicked" by God? Seems rather selfish of god to enable only people who worship him to live for 950 yrs but randomly kill others for no reason. In fact a real god would not require worship at all.
     
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    It has, God made it to be Genesis 6
    1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
    2 That tht sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
    3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
    8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord.
    10 And Noah begat three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth.
    11 The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence.
    12 And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.
    13 And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.


    Just like human technology have no answer to cancer.

    Nope, only you would consider that to be wicked.

    Not at all, in fact it is humans who are selfish they will sacrifice everything for their own vanity and wickedness. God command is very simple by not doing evil or being wicked we are already worshipping Him.
     
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    Right.
    So this cluie for us, today, who realize what you say means the medieval interpretations were just guesses that were plausible in the paradigm of people who still understod the world as if magic and myths were possible.

    But in avoiding a more direct and clear statement about the ascent of modern man through a line of 22 different species that went extinct about 40,000 years ago, this idea of a species living 950 years, or more factualy, 950,000 years, makes sens as the proper way tio comprehend Genesis.
     
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    No, it doesn't make sense. You're just making up things that you want the Bible to say even though it doesn't say those things.
     
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    Another good ppoint...
    The Skull of these newly evolved Homo sapiens would have been the ONLY "ark" that qualifies for carrying all the names and visions of the animals which the previously dominant Neanderthal man had envisioned and named millennia before modern Homo sapiens appeared.



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    Noah was a species that "flooded" out-of-Africa carryimng all the knowledge of mankind with him, reaching to the tops of the mountains and around the entire world.
     
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    Why did the fishermen die in the Flood? Such men would have great experience in storms, as well as....having their own boat?!?!?
     
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    So basically the bible does not state the physical process that allows a human to live for 950 years or someone more knowledgeable of the bible would have answered. If it doesnt say anything on the physical mechanism that allows extended life then please just say it doesnt explain it.
     
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    It does I just gave you Genesis 6 it even say why human life was reduce to just 120 years. The function to live up to 950, 2000 or 120 years is the same as any human body no special mechanism the only difference is it is up to the grace of God. Noah was the chosen one so he get to live 950 years. The world need to be repopulated and Noah found grace with God. "Nothing is impossible with God" only men have limitations that is why up to now in spite of human technology we still can not extend fruitful life beyond 120 years.
     
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    Because those fishermen were wicked they did not listen to Noah, if they had they would have build an ark of their own and survive instead they relay own their poor boats that are not design to withstand the great flood.
     
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    No sorry I am looking for the physical process God did to the human body that enabled it to live that long. The above is not an explanation of the process. For example were the cells restructered?, did cell division stop? If god did it then did god ever tell anyone exactly what the process was? As I said I am perfectly ok with the answer "we dont know" I am just merely curious if the Bible states the process anywhere. This time im not looking to argue Im just looking to see if the bible covers this as many characters in the bible live well past human lifespan but also some live centuries more than others. I dont see that exaplained anywhere.
    Also, as a side note, are you christians irritated by Googles snub of Easter yesterday? From a political standpoint it irritated me but I was curious what the talk was in the religious circles.
     
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    So you agree with the atheists. The entire faith is a taking place between the ears of humans.
     
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    So who are noah's other children. I don't remember reading or hearing about any more than the 3 on the ark.
     
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    God left those specificity to humans to discover, you need to go back to Genesis 1:So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them. If God is going to do and say everything to its last cell then we don't need doctors, researchers, scientist or education in fact you will have no need for intellect.

    And I accept your answer that you don't know, but I know because I understand the Holy Bible and the Almighty power of God.

    Nope, I am surprise that you be irritated, but as you said your irritation is all about the politics.
     
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    It does I just gave you Genesis 6 it even say why human life was reduce to just 120 years. The function to live up to 950, 2000 or 120 years is the same as any human body no special mechanism the only difference is it is up to the grace of God. Noah was the chosen one so he get to live 950 years. The world need to be repopulated and Noah found grace with God. "Nothing is impossible with God" only men have limitations that is why up to now in spite of human technology we still can not extend fruitful life beyond 120 years.

    Who said that Noah has more than 3 sons? you? well this is why we need to read and understand the Holy Bible very carefully or else you will come up with all kinds of inverted interpretations. Noah has only three sons and many great, great, great, great grand children.
     
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    Quote Posted by Woody:

    Not! The Sun was created Day4 you better look at your Bible agian.
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    No, as I've said earlier the sun was created on Day 1, refer to my post #7 on pg. 1 of Part 3. I have thoroughly explained it very clearly.
     
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    I never said he did. Did I? Where?
    I'm just wondering why he needed to live 950 yrs if he never had any other children.
    Someone made the comment, it was to repopulate the earth. He did no more repopulating.
     
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    You keep saying you know the answer but then never post it. Saying god did it.....welll ok....how did he do it? You are referring the answer to the very document that causes the question. You responded but didnt answer. We keep going through this.
     
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