The more Godless America becomes, the more 'uncivil' it also becomes

For that matter, what right does clay have to question its fellow clay?

Though I find it a little demeaning to refer to humans as clay..

 

Well of course I am right, and subsequently you have been wrong.

Yeppir: as it should be.

Centuries of scholarship. Show me a building constructed with modern techniques that has outlived the pyramids of Gaza. So much for your advanced scholarship.

Yeppir: Again, that explains a great deal about your inability to compare that apple flavor to the flavor of an orange, and not arrive at the same determination of flavor.

 

The Egyptians built such a big pile of rocks that it is still there! THAT is advanced scholarship for darn sure.

However, they never did figure out how to make an arch, let alone a dome.

(something that your common stone age eskimo figured out)

 

Its an example of how being "religious" doesnt reliably change people for the better.

 

Explain "it"? What is "it"?

And no,not correct. I already gave you examples of how there is far more than just the lack of evidence.

Tho that is a might big "just" A bit like "just" no evidenced that tank battles took place in your neighbourhood yesterday.

Direct evidence to disprove it includes the 100,000 plus years of polar ice.

How many different ways does common sense, and science have to disprove something? With four legged grasshoppers, one quick look at a real grasshopper should suffice.

 

Then there is the 'you reap what you sow' principle,' of which is said "God is not mocked." If you sow to the flesh, you will reap from the flesh; if you sow to the Spirit, you will reap from the Spirit. Both a 'physical law' and a 'spiritual law,' as some refer to as 'Karma.' And some 'reaping' is immediate, while other reaping is at a later time (in 'its season')..

If you sow 'good' seed, you will reap a 'good' crop (in 'due' season), w/o tares or weeds.

You said that you believe in 'luck,' but is luck part of the sowing/reaping 'law?' Or is it just random and uncontrollable? Doing superstitious routines is placing 'hope' or a 'faith' in those routines to gain luck. As NT scripture states, "Faith is the substance of things hoped for; the evidence of things not seen.' Faith is tangible and it's opposite, 'fear,' both produce 'like' fruit or results. As the 'righteous' Job said, "The thing I feared most has come upon me."

 

Another, the things of the physical are 'temporal' (being temporary and are subject to change); where the things of the spirit are 'eternal' (as in will never 'die'). And therefore, the things of the spirit supersede the things of the physical....

 

You recognize, do you, that teaching that "god" actually did send a flood that killed everything and everyone but a boatload is mocking god? Worse, it is attributing to him the characteristics and behaviour or a psycho monster of the worst sort? Does it bother you when you witness people thus debasing the god you worship? Nothing atheists can be heard to say is any worse than that.

 

If ancient men purposely wrote falsehoods to deceive other men, and not because of their understanding that they felt 'inspired' to record, than that would be violating the truths of God.

I believe that there are 'truths' in the stories of the OT as written of men, but the fullness and explanations were given as having 'spiritual meaning' of their revealed knowledge of God.

I.e. there most probably was a Noah who was considered 'righteous' of his time, and a Job who was also considered as being 'righteous' who suffered many things w/o explanation, and there is a recorded prophet Jonah of Nineveh where his story takes place, as his tomb is still honored w/o excavation in 'old' Nineveh:

example: http://www.goldenageproject.org.uk/460.php



"Jonah's" Tomb at Ninevah wallows Older Assyrian Remains" aka, "The Mound of Jonah" containing his tomb

And so, to accurately interpret what the Spirit of God is saying in the writings of men, one must look for the consistency of the 'spiritual message' within the writings to gain their value..

 

I would like to be more holy and more moral by praying for true love and performing true love rituals at a temple dedicated to a goddess of Love, but the Right doesn't like my idea.

 

So hard to just give a direct anwer? And from a oil field worker, at that!
(I've seen the Permian Basin, tough place, that!)

But lets try again. IF someone, today, teaches little kids that "god" really did send a flood to kill everyone and everything but the boatload, are they teaching about god really-really doing something that really-really didnt happen?

Its one of the other! It happened, of it didnt.

IF it didnt, they are teaching their kids a horrendous falsehood.

What do you asy to that?

 

all i know is that i really would like to get really, really good at full body massage with happy ending, and still be moral, at the same time.

 

Science talks about the melting of the ice age as being responsible for the cascades at Gibraltar filling the Mediterranean sea, and subsequently at the latter point, flowing over the Bosphorus and mixing/filling the Black sea which was glacier sculpted as was the fresh waster Caspian Sea close to it. And discoveries of ancient ruins under the Black Sea indicate a flooded civilization at some time, which by the way are near Turkey & Mt. Ararat. So there are truths but as to what extent they are 100% accurate & valid may be up for discussion---just as at least one massive flood of the Fertile Crescent/Babylon valley has been documented.

And to answer your 'nagging' question: When parents teach their children their heritage and what they believe, is that credited as 'dishonesty?' I taught my children scripture and science while they were growing up---and as a result, they didnt 'throw the baby out with the bath water' but reasoned them with their faith, and did not reject the whole of the writings. The basic Gospel of Jesus Christ as the savior of fallen man is still valid in their sight!

 

In my opinion, alleged conservatives are not doing the religious any favors by denying and disparaging Intelligent Design "theory" by prosecuting a War on Drugs that includes seed bearing plants. Why is it that only original sinners are willing to jump on the Reefer Madness propaganda and rhetoric of last millennium?

 

That's what educated folks call "allegorical". You're not a religious person?