You claim that God does not exist.

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  1. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In order for something to be "Common"...it needs to be a regular and repeating experience, understood and accepted by a majority of those involved.
    In order for something to make sense, it needs to do much the same....but have a verifiable core to be evaluated.

    A God (any of them)....is not a common sense choice.

    in my opinion
     
  2. Durandal

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    Ah, true. Well, if he wants to define God as something real, then I suppose I would believe in God. However, God tends to be understood as an unseen force that thinks and speaks like a BCE-era Jewish male and created everything in some great creative act and likes to toy with the bipedal primates he created "in his own image" on planet Earth.
     
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    So in effect you are calling me a liar. LOL. Keep on being judgemental and making sheet up about people you know nothing about.
    And maybe look to professional guidance for the short comings.
     
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    Credit where it's due, you are right on the money with this one. Your posts show it quite consistently.
     
  5. Heretic

    Heretic Active Member

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    The only guidance worth seeking in life is that of God's Word. No human can cleanse my soul. Only God can forgive Sin.
     
  6. Incorporeal

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    Here is one of those definitions but this one gives the option of 'disbelieving' OR "denying the existence of God or gods".
    "a·the·ist (th-st)
    n.
    One who disbelieves or denies the existence of God or gods.

    The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition copyright ©2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Updated in 2009. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved."
     
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    How is this disagreeing with me in any way?
     
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    What are you basing this on?
     
  9. Incorporeal

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    Did I say it disagreed with you? No? Then quit imagining things. You see, the definition that is chosen is dependent upon the person reading the definition. On the one hand, someone (a theist) declaring that an atheist is one who denies the existence of God or gods is correct, while the Atheist would probably choose the other definition offered by the 'OR' option, and the Atheist would also be correct. The theist has the option of saying that an atheist denies the existence of God or gods while the atheist attempts to play the politically correct thing by saying that he/she does not believe. In either case either one can be correct depending on who is reading the definition and dependent upon which definition is selected.
     
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    Only your imaginary friend can forgive you for violating his imaginary laws? You don't say!
     
  11. Heretic

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    Atheists are still avoiding to define God, demonstrating that they don't even know what they claim to disbelieve or does not exist.

    Atheists are scared of God. If they define Him, then this demonstrates they know, and therefore believe, something about Him.
     
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    The same is true with their use of the word "is" when used in this manner "God is a murderer". The word "is" means "be" and the word "be" means "exist". So, in the example declaration "God is a murderer", what has actually been stated is "God exists as a murderer". Such a statement shows that one is professing to have positive knowledge about God.
     
  13. GraspingforPeace

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    Wow, you actually agree with Heretic on this matter?
     
  14. dairyair

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    Or what they read about God in the bible. Reading something doesn't mean one believe it to be factual, one can read it as fiction.
     
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    Haha, you're mad, neener neener.
     
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    I'm not mad, I've tried to correct you on this matter before and you simply ran away from the conversation. Would you like me to, once again, explain why you're wrong?
     
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    First, define God, then you can explain to me why I'm wrong all you like............
     
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    Define what God? I believe in no such entity with that title. Do you want me to define the Christian God? Zeus? Ahura Mazda? Brahman?
     
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    One can do whatever he/she pleases as long as what is done is within his/her capabilities and as long as he/she is willing to face the consequences for his/her actions.

    As for your opening sentence: You started the sentence with the word "or" which means that you are making a comparison with another option. What other option are you comparing to? Now are you suggesting that the Bible declares that God is a murderer? Please show the passage of scripture which makes that very declaration. Short of being able to make a showing of such a declaration in the Bible, then your statement can only be false... as it would indicate that the speaker who says that God is a murderer is speaking from his/her own perspective. Now show me precisely in the Bible where it states emphatically "God is a murderer".
     
  20. GraspingforPeace

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    Are you seriously dense enough to not know the answer to your question, even though he is QUOTING YOUR OPINION?

    I mean... Wow, guy.

    And now you are just putting words in his mouth, aka a strawman argument. This is the world's worst post, as judged by me, congratulations. Gold star.
     
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    I was.
    You stated because someone talks or posts about something, "Such a statement shows that one is professing to have positive knowledge about God."
    Their positive knowledge comes from a book. I gave another option.
    Fact or fiction? It is what makes this forum interesting.
    As for the rest of you rant, it is pure conjecture on your part. shame shame.
     
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    So God is an entity, according to you, GraspingforPeace???????????????

    Tell me more about this "entity". How do you have knowledge of God????????????????????

    WOW THIS IS AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!

    Atheists know that God is an "entity". Tell me more about your God, GraspingforPeace. I'm all ears and my mind is more open than yours will ever become.............

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    Atheists.................what or Who are you claiming, exactly, doesn't exist????????

    Tell me more about this God you claim to not believe in, and claim doesn't exist!

    Define Him, atheists. Define what you don't believe in................. tell me what doesn't exist.
     
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    God is an entity believed to exist by many people, yes. I personally don't believe in its existence.

    Dictionary, people that believe in its existence, and their stories of their religions. Is this a serious question? Are you trying to stump me or something? This is pitiful, Heretic. You're trying to hoodwink your way into showing that atheists believe in a God because we acknowledge that people believe such a thing exists, is that it? We disagree with people who have come up with the concept of some Supreme incorporeal, corporeal, benevolent, malevolent, peaceful, war-like (they can't decide which) entity that they call God. Is that so damn hard to understand for people?

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    It's shameful that you even had to explain that to him. Seriously.
     
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    GraspingforPeace is claiming that God is an entity, which demonstrates that he, an atheist, has knowledge of God.

    How did he come to this knowledge of God, I wonder???????????????????

    I thought Atheists didn't believe in God? I thought atheists claim that God does not exist? What or Who does not exist????

    Tell me more, atheists. Tell me about what SUPPOSEDLY does not exist.

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    So God exists but you don't want to believe in Him???

    Then you're not an atheist, correct? Atheists believe that He does not exist. While YOU, claim He DOES exist, but you choose not to believe in Him?
     
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