Labor's Ruddy Quandary

It was always supposed to be a 3 year fixed priced period, with the price to be floated (yes, subject to review) in 2015. Rudd would simply be floating it a year early, very minor change to the policy.

 

It's irrelevant anyway because when the coalition win the next election their policy is to dump both the carbon tax and the mining tax.

 

Ziggy, how do you expect Lib supporters to understand something as complicated as that?

 

LOL... yet you claim to be the greatly informed...LOL

Your “Constructive criticism” only seems to come when you have nothing to support your ill-informed claims. Unfortunately for you that supposed claim is a clear demonstration of your inability to produce anything of substance.

Oh...so it is not true??? LOL unfortunately you either have no idea what the policy is (which is obvious) or you have not got the message your former PM told you... LOL

Talk about fools... Again it is obvious your entire knowledge of you government is from the media you proclaim to be shallow and bias. I wonder, how do you know it is bias if your only reference of the content of mainstream media comes from them? Because Gillard told you so through that Mainstream media??? LOL

 

Sorry About that I was believing the review was in 2014, I am not sure if I miss represented this, but I apologise if I did. As Gillard has stated on Hansard, This review is when the decision of transition will be made. Her inference of 2015 was not of any promise or deadline. It was simply a date Gillard stated would be the earliest.


As Rudd has made clear mention that he intends to change the ETS policy, I would suspect that it is not going to a minor change. However, we will have to wait and see with that, during the election campaign. At any case, Rudd has demonstrated clearly to be a far better leader than Gillard, Nothing to do with Gender.

 

True, he hasn`t been tested by the existing govt. All Abbott has had to do, has been to be seen not to get down into the gutter the way the ALP has. All he has had to do, has been to let the govt spew out their insane bile, and rise above it. Not hard really.

 

Let's stick on this point now Garry! Where did I say I never watch Question Time? This is a comprehension test! I'm happy to work through this with you! Just respond to this question....it's easy!

This is what i stated from comment #65: "never saw question time"! How on earth do you draw the conclusion about "never watching it.....LMAO!!

 

Abbott invented gutter politics! It is the reason why he was seen as one of the 2 evils! Not surprising that Rudd is smashing him in the preferred PM stakes, he will never be able to shake the gutter politics tag

 

Asked and answered.

Because you never saw it... LOL think hard about but don't have a stroke over it... LOL

 

I'm going to help you through this now, I just hope it's not too much for you to take in at one time!

(You) This was your statement, minus the other drivel: "It was interesting to hear parliament yesterday........"

(Me) This was my statement in response, minus the wisdom: "I never saw question time....."

(You) This was your response minus the drivel, in response to me further scrutinising your drivel: "You said, you "NEVER" watch question time......drivel, drivel, drivel..................."

Right.....now what I was saying is that I didn't see that particular segment of question time......yeah? I didn't say "I never watch question time" You with me?

I'm happy to work with you on your comprehension Garry, although I will really need to start charging you for the consultation!

Anyway, make sure you just read commentary really slowly, and grab the dictionary out if need be........more importantly don't respond if you don't understand...yeah? When structuring a response, make sure you read over it a few times and maybe get one of your room mates to read and recount if able to! Hey, we can accept some spelling and grammatical errors but we need to at least be able to make the link between grammatical errors!

Just let me know when you are ready, I'll forward on my account details. You can pay by PayPal, if this is an option!

It's raining today, I've got the day off..........

 

LOL... However, your comments condemn you.

So is it your point that you watch question time??? So far you claim that you did not say you never watch it, but fact is you never state you have watched it. So Do you watch it? Careful with that, it will demonstrate the stupidity of your last few responses.

Isn't it funny, when you have nothing you attempt to lower everything to your level. Unfortunately when you make comment on others you should insure that you are the consummate of perfection. You however fall short much the way your ALP does.

Maybe you could actually do some study and get a little more informed. But no we will only hear you ill-informed tripe and inability to support your claims.

 

What on earth does wanting to know whether i watch question time got to do with the price of eggs in china? The point being made is your lack of comprehension dude....you with me?? This in itself is another example....oh brother...

 

It is your claim that you watch it, pretence of you entire debate.

So your entire premise of your retorts are of simple derogatory claim. Interesting, however it is interesting your entire debate simply is based on your presumption of others assumptions. Nothing of substance (as per usual).

So perhaps you could enlighten us all on how you get your information from any other sources other than that shallow mainstream media you pretend is not your source? Again we will see nothing but your frivolous claims and assertions. And I thought you credited yourself as being informed… LOL

 

So what you are implying is that the only way to get facts is through question time....lol! Think about gazza, if you aren't getting information that is factual from question time or from the mouths of those who have a vested interest, where do you get it?........ I now understand the basis of your arguments!

 

No what I am implying is your full of BS and that your inabilty to find better sources is hypocrisy.

You proclaim to be informed from other forms and not from that shallow, bias mainstream media, yet you know nothing that does not come from it.

The fact that I demonstrated twice you have commented on points raised from two separate time frames from question time of which you denied but have actually not witnessed either. You had no idea that these incidents occurred, yet you can categorically denied they happened. I also raise a point of motion brought to the house over notice of Conroy’s avoidance of response, Should you have examined your entire sources of information pertaining to such, you would not have found comment on such.

This demonstrates the total lack of integrity of Conroy and his inability not only to answer a question but to do any work to at least provide a response (and that is to his own party supporters...LOL).

Your blind support of such demonstrates your hypocrisy and inability to find anything other than what is told to by that very source that you proclaim to be shallow and bias. Maybe your ALP handlers can repair the damage to your credit but I would suggest you sack them and wheel in some more.

 

Move on Garry, you've got yourself tangled in your own web of pedanticism and drivel and can't get yourself out!

 

LOL... Got nothing then??? LOL

OR do you finally see the futility of demonstrating that stupidity?

 

You do realise that changing quotes is against forum rules?

No ability to respond you attempt to mislead the forum? LOL

Further demonstrating your persona. After all who was playing pedantics??? lol

 

You just needed a hand with grammatics! No charge by the way!

 

So, you lie and mislead and have nothing to respond... LOL The very reason Gillard never got the message across... LOL

 

Nope, The absolute reverse!

 

Yes 2015 would be the earliest date, but also the date they were aiming for, they announced 3-5 years originally I think. No it wasn't a promise or a deadline, it was just an expected timeline for when they would be ready to float the price and link up with the European market.

Rudd said he would like to float it earlier, not that he definitely would, and he said he wouldn't do it without the approval of cabinet. It'll be complicated because of all the arrangements they've already made for joining the European market, and for businesses that have already made decisions based on the minimum 3 year fixed period.

Personally I don't know why they don't just lower the fixed price for the last year.

What I find really funny is Hunt coming out and saying that even after they float the price, it's still just a "tax". Gotta LoL.

 

Proven to be true by your previous responses.

 

Well that is a major point to the policy, price. But the issue of tax to ETS, no matter how anybody wants to spin it Gillard herself admitted she lied and was introducing a tax. No amount of spin could change that, thus public support was destroyed.

However, simply lowering the price would be great help to the economy. I find it funny that many do not consider this entire policy as an economic policy when it has direct effect on the economy.

Naturally I assume there will be a tax on the ETS, but hardly makes the ETS a tax. Maybe somebody will set hunt straight.