Labor's Ruddy Quandary

I remember having this conversation about appropriate word usage a while back! Just double check your usage for clarity sake!

Now, as for the rest of your comments, I see it is speculative nonsense! The media and certain back benchers are working behind the scenes, while those with portfolio's are doing business as usual! Your just a mainstream news junky gazza, which isn't a demonstration of intelligence! Ill leave this with you - Einstein said: a man who reads too much and uses his own brain too little falls into lazy habits of thinking!

 

Yes and you were wrong then too... LOL

LOL... evidence of your claim? Unless you mean that running around yelling for people to put up or shut up and defending their own PM against a leadership spill without opponents... yes, if that is business as usual, who is running the country??? LOL

Mainstream media??? Talk about demonstrations of intelligence, I believe your current performance has demonstrated your own expectations.

Speculative??? LOL Apparently the premise of the OP is speculative... LOL. Your attempt at insult simply demonstrates you have nothing and would simply defend your own stupidity over the very subject you began.

As stated, as a strong ALP supporter (obviously without thought) Why would you proliferate one of the very issues that the ALP wish to put behind it??? LOL

I am guessing that you cannot answer the question you have squirmed about for several posts trying to say it is good for the ALP to be in the situation it is now and you simply want to propagate it.

 

Of course they can still be doing their job and try and help to settle things! It is all part and parcel of everyday life for individuals who work in teams, why any different for our government? You got to stop the hysteria gazza!

Sh!t happens in terms of internal squabbles, so what, just part of the hysteria the media are whipping up! Who cares if there is a change of leader as long as they continue to implement visionary and great policy!

 

Funny, division and derision is good for teams... LOL

Haven't answered the question yet... LOL

LOL... So your wish to perpetuate the issue, because you think a team in division is good and that is progresive to better govenance... LOL

Again, your foolishness is showing through... LOL

 

Rudd is a tool and a fool, but he is the least of the ALP`s problems. Krudd is nothing more than a diversion for this spent force. Why would Rudd want the captaincy of this sinking ship? Ego? His best ego trip is to take over this mess in opposition, if the union godfathers give him permission. Have we really forgotten the National embarrassment Ttool Rudd peopetually caused?

 

Yes, yes, yes and yes!.....you give me a team that never experiences difficulties, and I'll give you a team that lacks growth and productivity! It is all simply right wing hysteria supported by extreme right wing elitist media!

You'll grasp it one day gazza, but maybe it will be too late when you do!

 

Word out of Canberra is...... If Rudd challenged right now he would be re instated as PM. Word also has it that he would have to sack 80% of the front bench and so close to an election that would be catastrophic. The greens have told the ALP that if the PM changes they will seek a vote of no confidence and go to the polls early. This may just about put the leadership battle to bed. Rumour also has it that when it is all over and the ALP is in opposition that KRudd will not get the votes for leadership, as they will have time to groom someone else. Someone that most members respect.

 

Lindsay Tanner would be my pick. Rudd dosen`t do anything for me at all.

 

Yeah it certainly isn't a cut and dried process! Damnnned if they do, damnnned if they don't! Windsor and oakshott would also be a concern, due to opposing any change to leadership in the past! There is no doubt they will be posed questions about any approaches made by Rudd backers in coming days. I'm surprised there isn't any news forthcoming already!

 

The two dependants won't matter if the greens jump. Their curtain is about to fall. They are just lapping up the attention before they become nobody's again.

I must say that I thought Gillard would of stepped down for the good of the party and perhaps the country. I say the country because if the polls are solid and the last three have been, it would mean that we may have a Queensland style issue where there is very little voice in opposition. A democracy only works when there is robust debate on issues that require such. By Gillard staying until the death it seems that this may be what we might get. At the very least a new leader may garner more votes and save a few seats, making what seems the innevitable death a little less tragic.

However she seems human and has as strong a pride as any man. Most definitely stronger than the grub she replaced. Some may say Stubborn pride, others will see it as selfishness. In the end what it is, is lack of regard for the people of this country and the everyday realities that we common folk face while they play their little power games.

 

Well, the writing is on the wall clearly to see. I think if somebody else polled great as a potential leader as opposed to Rudd, then you would have to think he wouldn't be considered to this extent!

In all sincerity slippery, if people can't see past the good work this government has done under a Gillard leadership then we do deserve a Qld style election outcome! Retrospective views are too late! Maybe rudd has learnt from his mistakes in terms of his leadership approaches, his ego is still fully on display! If he somehow wins the election, which would be likely considering no one really likes Abbott but the welded on liberal supporters (he is just seen as the better of both evils between him and Gillard), he will either remove most of the caucus "after" the election, if they haven't stepped down themselves before hand and still able to win the election of course(unlikely in this scenario IMO anyway!) He would need a drastic leadership style change, because it would be starkly obvious if the new crew did the very same thing the old caucus did to him, his game would be up! He should go hide under a rock for the rest of his life in terms of politics!

In all honesty I hope abbott proves us wrong "if elected" and ends up being one of our most productive visionary PM's ever! Ultimately I hope Rudd is a changed man, I don't think we can take the risk with conservative policy on the economy as it is! Seriously, Christopher Skase couldn't have stuffed up the economy during Howard's tenure and needs to be taken well and truly out of the equation in terms of economic management!

 

Julia Gillard, has for quite some time, demonstrated obsessive insularism. Going (partly) on her established pattern of answering an uncomfortable question, with a completely unrelated rant, it could well be possible that she isn`t even aware of the polls etc. Julia Gillard gives multible indications of an extremely fragile mental state, she dosen`t face reality.

As for Kevin Rudd. Have we really forgotten the cringing embarrassment of every time he opened his silly mouth? Another egotistical high roller. Lindsay Tanner, on the other hand, can at least speak to people as if they are human, and not something stuck on the sole of his shoe.

 

Re : " I don't think we can take the risk with conservative policy on the economy as it is! "
What a dumb statement! Who delivers surplus, who delivers deficit?

 

LOL... difficulties... LOL

No I think you might get it one day. As stated why would such a staunch ALP supporter continue to create "difficulties" For the time by contributing to the divide?

 

Getting a little tired of your silly little games to be frank! Either have something of substance or don't expect a response with your cheap little one liners!

From 1976 - 1983 the liberals only oversaw "one" budget surplus, that's right "ONE" budget surplus and left Hawke with a $40 billion debt. This was after inheriting "zero" government debt from Whitlam, that's right "0" government debt from Whitlam!
Gee, all this time I thought that the coalition were the economic managers, I hear you say! You've either been hoodwinked or just one of those rusted on conservative supporters who thinks the sun shines out your proverbial!

Again, Howard presided over a purple patch in terms of world economics, and wasted our money, taxed us through the roof and sold our assets like they were lollies!!! No one really realised how much better things could have been because they weren't concerned about this grub spending billions on campaigning that was full of deceitful lies!

 

How can I contribute to the difficulties? Anyway, your grammatics are little difficult again Garry, please take your time typing/or think about what you want to say and state it clearly!

They'll sort out their differences as they invariably do, just glad they are able to still govern effectively while there are indifferences!

 

I haven`t got much time for you TV to be honest. I just feed you a little bit of rope, and watch you hang yourself. You even go back 47 years to find something to twist your way. Speeking of "deceitful lies", did you watch Question time today? There isn`t a single ALP member who could lie straight in bed..

 

Garry`s post isn`t hard to understand. Very clear in fact. One of the ALP`s major problems, is that a party that is built on envy, consists of a membership who are envious of each other.

 

There you have again, just empty cheap statements! As for the rope, you tend to tangle yourself every single time.....I think you're a little delusional about this, which isn't surprising!

 

Why don`t you go & help Dame Edna knit you a straight jacket.

 

When you're ready, just give us the cue to laugh....

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When you're ready, just give us the cue to laugh....

 

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Unable to answer so the usual BS about Gramma, I thought people had finally understood that these comments only demonstrate the stupidity of the poster complaining, not where the complaint is pointed.

LOL... So the rest of Australia suffers the childish rants of supposed adults while they destroy their parties credibility and you believe (obviously without support of the people you support) they are doing a good job. Obviously you have never been in charge of anything in your life, just a drone worker told what to do.

 

Common Garry, here is a great example.....I mean this in the nicest way!

Australia doesn't have to suffer this issues associated with the difficulties.......just turn off the TV come political programs! As long as they are still running the country efficiently like they have it is all good! They will work things out! This hysteria is created for the drama queens! Not sure if you're one of them, but you could say it is guilt by association!

It should come to a head tonight and then we will ask, what was all the hysteria about? It always occurs in politics and labor follow a democratically robust system that ensures growth and productivity! Howard achieved very little, because everyone was gaged under their authoritarian and growth destroying system of internal governance that they choose to abide by!

 

Hey slippery, quick prediction for treasure if Rudd gets in, which is likely!

Swan will be gone, Garrett will go, conroy has mentioned he won't be sticking around......who else is likely to either be forced out forcingly or voluntarily! Shorten seems likely to stay!