White nationalists aim to take over tiny North Dakota town >>>MOD ALERT<<<

It'll keep slogging along until it doesn't.

I'm scurred. It'll be interesting to watch you try and defend the demographic transformation of America while not implicating progressive policies for the problems I listed above.

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Actually that is not true. Blacks are much more likely to commit murder than whites. Statistically blacks are over 6 times more likely to commit murder than every other race combined.

 

And that's why he went ahead and posted the pie charts of crime %s by race, which completely blew your white psycho images post to bits. >>>MOD EDIT: INSULT<<<

 

The Chicago crime rates are another matter entirely

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Not if we count lone psychos like the ones you picked on. The majority of those seem to be white. The white ones also tend to be more deadly.

 

They're really not. If my argument was that white people never committed crime, then your attempt at refutation would have had some teeth. However, I never said that, because that is obviously not true. The question isn't whether white people commit crime, it's if they commit a disproportionately high amount of crime, and they do not, unlike other groups.

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I'm fairly confident those are included in the crime statistics.

 

So you're saying that Black crime is not more prevalent as compared to other races, in other cities also ?

According to the United States Department of Justice: Blacks accounted for 52.5% of homicides, whites 45.3% and Native Americans and Asians 2.2%, throughout the USA, from 1980 to 2008,despite being a small fraction of the population of Whites. The offending rate for blacks was almost 8 times higher than whites.

Looks like the Chicago crime rates are THE SAME matter as elsewhere.

 

I know. This is what you harp on.

What is your solution? So far, it seems to be having a racist attitude and saying that we should live in a segregated society.

By the way, if that's what you want to do, why do you stay in "Mexifornia" of all places? Come on out to flyover country. You'll love it.

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Nope, I'm not commenting on that. I'm not here to deny reality. I do however take issue with dishonest debate tactics and racist attitudes.

 

On the brightside, at least they picked an area far away from the rest of us.

I figured 99.9% of North Dakota is completely white to begin with.

If they tried something like this in a major city, it would be a far bigger issue.

 

Speaking of racist attitudes, you then would "take issue" with affirmative action, right ?

 

The overwhelming majority of homicides committed by Hispanics are included in the "white" category. The FBI is going to start tracking Hispanic crimes separately starting next year. Should be very interesting to see just how disproportionate highly black homicides really are compared to whites.

 

Yes, I do take issue with affirmative action.

 

Ideally there would be areas where people could stay segregated if they wanted to. >>>MOD EDIT: INSULT<<< We know that society's pressure is enough to get groups to change in major ways. The first step in that process is to make people aware and willing to unshackle their PC chains on the issue. This thread clearly shows that we aren't there yet. There's too much political benefit in ignoring the problem and shielding blacks from criticism.

Can't help where I was born. I'm moving from here eventually.

 

With or without the Hispanic alterations, Black crime is already as obvious a train wreck in America as it could ever be. Anyone attempting to argue against that, is doing a fine job of publicly erasing their credibility.

 

Craig Paul Cobb has every right to buy up properties in a tiny rural town with only 19 residents if he has enough money available to create a retirement community for white citizens. The locals fear that he could get himself elected mayor to enact racist by-laws but Cobb is a wanted man and he could be extradited to Canada, which is a disqualifying factor to running for public office.

 

I think the most disturbing component of the white nationalists is the implied notion that black people, due to their obvious inferiority, are beyond hope. That's shoddy reasoning even IF blacks were beyond hope, which isn't an appropriate judgement.

One example is Margaret Meade's work with the Mundugumor and the Arapesh. These two tribes in I think in New Guinea are genetically identical, but the Mundugumor are like a bunch on 1%er biker gangs, and the Arapesh are as peaceful as sheep, and the developed using almost identical resources in similar environments, but the cultures are diametrically opposed.
http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/mead/field-sepik.html

 

Of whom I referred to in Post # 186. Those who have been "recklessly having kids, even when they can't afford them"

 

Bottom line is that in America, Blacks are the criminals, and Whites are the peaceful, law-abiding race. That is a fact and has been for a long time, whether one talks about with genetics and culture until they're blue in the face.

 

But that's not necessarily what white nationalists believe. White supremacists would be believe that. White separatists believe that races live in conflict with each other, for a variety of reasons, and that it would be better for everyone if all races were separated. A white nationalist simply believes that there should be some area where white European peoples can call home. An area where the unique genetic traits of whites can be preserved and not threatened by the dominant genes of other races. Leftists will do this for a threatened bird species, but they will never do it for white people.

I'll agree that most of this is cultural differences, but there are genetic differences, as well as millions of years of evolutionary differences, that may explain in part why the cultures are so different.

 

The fact that 3% of the population is committing 50% of the murders, 40% of the rapes, and 55% of the robberies, and the majority is not willing to talk about it, is unacceptable. It's funny that the left likes to talk about how much crime and murder takes place in our society when they're pushing for gun control, but when we point out that the lion's share of our crime is due to one small segment of their most loyal voting bloc, suddenly the topic is off limits.

 

That's not true. It's been increasingly the case since the Great Society reforms.

 

I say let them have the town, so we don't have to constantly hear so much complaining from the "white nationalist community".

I wonder if someone like Marco Rubio or Ben Jealous (president of the Naacp) would be welcomed in that town. After all, they both have white skin. Is that not enough to be considered white in the mind of white nationalists?

 

And that changes what exactly? Not what I said of our forefathers, that is for sure. This country isn't a "white country" it didn't start that way... it didn't get built that way... it wont fall apart that way.

 

It most certainly IS true, and I am old enough (67) to KNOW it, as I've been around for a "long time."

 

I do not support the idea of some area within the borders of the US where white European peoples can prohibit other races from living within it. It's contrary to how the current majority of Americans feel about race, and if that majority doesn't want to give you parts of America that allow this to happen, it'll never happen. I'm positive we're not on the cusp of any type of movement of the type that will gain any traction. In spite of the isolated examples of people dissatisfied with "multi-culturalism"...the trend is towards the obscolescence of the very concept of race. [/QUOTE]

 

What is more interesting that such a tiny little non story suddenly got the attention of the SPLC, CNN, the NYT, etc, etc.

But what did this story really consist of, and why did it merit such OTT attention?

Okay, let's first deal with the headline it ran with....

White nationalists aim to take over tiny North Dakota town

We can see right away that the tone is set. Emotional hyperbole. Always a red flag. 'Take over' clearly implies some sort of force, and possible criminal behaviour.

Moving on...

Paul Craig Cobb wants to transform the town 70 miles southwest of Bismarck into a community that mirrors his white supremacist views. He did so quietly at first, asking residents whether their land was for sale

All we know here is that there is a man called Paul, he is white, and he has a desire to transform something. No mention here of anything sinister, until, as if my magic, CNN have called him a 'white supremacist'. Naturally they add no definition to this.

However..

But recent reports from The New York Times and the Southern Poverty Law Center exposed his mission and turned it into a national story.

Yes. I bet they did.

In an interview with The New York Times, Cobb said he hoped his plans in Leith would "excite" white people and "give them confidence because we're being deracinated in our own country."

Well. They are.

"We've been very, very tolerant about these major sociological changes," he said, according to the paper.

Again. No argument there. No other race have been as accommodating as the white race.

Probably we need an emotional Anne Frank type figure at this point...

Enter......Stuck in the middle is Leith's lone black resident, Bobby Harper. He's known Leith as a nice, peaceful place where "everybody got along, we basically could leave our doors unlocked, and there was no fear that nobody wanting to harm us."

As expected.


Thanks to Cobb, Harper now feels under threat, and he said his townsfolk do, too.

"If he can't love his fellow man, then we ask God to help him with something," Harper said Friday about Cobb. "Because I'm not very happy, and the people in this town aren't very happy."


And yet, unless there are words that are invisible to me, I see no threat. Not feeling 'happy' is not a threat.

Leith is part of Grant County, which according to its official website is North Dakota's third largest county by land mass at more than 1 million acres. While the communities once buzzed with activity from nearby railroads, nowadays it's decidedly more quiet.

That certainly was true of Leith. The U.S. Census bureau says it has a population of 16 people, though other estimates run higher -- though not beyond 25 residents.

25 residents? Only the NYT and SPLC would make such a fuss about such a thing. Amazing.

How successful was Cobb, who is wanted in Canada on hate speech charges, in buying up the town? The Harpers say that residents have been overwhelmingly supportive of them.

I would urge all free speaking Americans to learn what hate speech laws in Canada are like. Why? Because they are coming to you next. They are actually a code for truth speech laws.

But the Southern Poverty Law Center notes that white nationalist April Gaede and her husband claimed, on an online message board, to have property in the town. So, too, has Jeff Schoep -- commander of the Nationalist Socialist Movement, which he describes as the "largest pro-white organization" in the United States "involved in the struggle for white civil rights."

So you can only strive for civil rights if you are black, gay or a Jew.

What a farce of a story, what a farce that the SPLC think that civil rights do not include whites.