Shellie Zimmerman ~ *Doubtful of his Innocence*

I fear some in life have yet to get that ultimate reality check.

 

Yes. . .absolutely!
But, contrary to what you are trying to imply. . .it isn't me!

I was molested 3 times before the age of 11. . .twice by family members, once by a priest.

NEVER by a teenager walking home from a convenience store!

 

The point is you never know what can happen. You do not know what causes one to snap and do terrible things. Just because this stuff is random, does not mean it didn't happen. I cant remember the girls name, but she went missing and was found in a drainage ditch in a suitcase, and I was reading the article when someone was arrested, it started out saying she had been sexually assulted and then goes on to name the perp and it was a woman, a mother of her childhood friend. I just could not comprehend that this could really happen, but it does.

 

You mean you don't know the difference between a 6 year old and a 17 year old either?

 

Hmm you and Pardy seem to unable to make the distinction when you them both children. Care to square that up for me.

 

Margot, I am not sure where you jumped to that from my post. I expect better comprehension from a Valedictorian.

 

That's right. . .you never know what can happen. You can suddenly find out that your 17 year old child got shot to death while coming home from the convenience store!

But statistics are here to give us a general framework of where the greatest problems lie. . .and "6 year old getting raped by a stranger" is NOT LIKELY!

 

You have a right to an opinion of course. Yet you do not include what the actions were by zimmerman as to warrant the accusation. But I agree, some guy walking around with a bullet in his pocket with an excuse to play cop is a recipe for needless confrontations. Yet there is no basis for believing that this was the case here.

 

Well, when the 17 year old, who btw, was retweeting ways to have sex doggy style better no matter the size of the weiner, to me thats just not a child anymore. We can sit and pretend Trayvon was a virgin and really into swap meets, but thats not how it was. If your son was on his third suspension, you would just let him run wild? Why wouldn't you drive him to the store in the rain? I just dont believe you would be so nonchalant with stuff like that, but I could be wrong. If my son was on any suspension he would not be having a real fun time.

 

I guess its changed since I watched it. Nonetheless, the point is that in fact there are adults that watch children box each other in the face. Which was the point. My slip about "Golden Gloves" vs. other boxing leagues doesn't render my point non effect.

Respectfully,

 

I only remember Golden Gloves over the past 40 years.

 

World English Dictionary
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[TD="class: td1, colspan: 2"]child (tʃaɪld) [/TD]
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[TD="class: td2, colspan: 2"]— n , pl children [/TD]
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[TD="class: td3n1, width: 1%, align: right"]1. [/TD]
[TD="class: td3n2"]a. a boy or girl between birth and puberty [/TD]
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[TD="class: td3n1, width: 1%, align: right"] [/TD]
[TD="class: td3n2"]b. ( as modifier ): child labour [/TD]
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[TD="class: td3n1, width: 1%, align: right"]2. [/TD]
[TD="class: td3n2"]a baby or infant [/TD]
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[TD="class: td3n1, width: 1%, align: right"]3. [/TD]
[TD="class: td3n2"]an unborn babyRelated: paedo- [/TD]
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[TD="class: td3n1, width: 1%, align: right"]4. [/TD]
[TD="class: td3n2"]with child another term for pregnant [/TD]
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[TD="class: td3n1, width: 1%, align: right"]5. [/TD]
[TD="class: td3n2"]a human offspring; a son or daughterRelated: filial [/TD]
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[TD="class: td3n1, width: 1%, align: right"]6. [/TD]
[TD="class: td3n2"]a childish or immature person [/TD]
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[TD="class: td3n2"]a member of a family or tribe; descendant: a child of Israel [/TD]
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[TD="class: td3n2"]a person or thing regarded as the product of an influence or environment: a child of nature [/TD]
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[TD="class: td3n1, width: 1%, align: right"]9. [/TD]
[TD="class: td3n2"]dialect ( Midland English ), ( Western English ) a female infant


Medical Dictionary
child (chīld)
n.

1. A person between birth and puberty.
   
2. An unborn infant; a fetus.
   
3. An infant; a baby.
   
4. One who is childish or immature.
   
5. A son or daughter; an offspring.
   
   
   
   Your usage of the term was to impart childlike innocence as to remove any adult stigmas or characteristics. You want to validate this usage due to a legal definition that SOMETIMES applies to 17 year olds.
   
   Respectfully,
   

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You are simply refuting by example here. You believe that if you can find an exception that it invalidates the rule. So, have you ever seen a gang member? What do they look like? LOl, oops! Now you have to list a set of traits and dress that typifies gangs. Of course I then proceed to cite examples where those things are common across the populace. One thing I do know, is that you wont cite anything.

Respectfully,

 

Yes they keep using the term child but refuse to say in what respect. According to the legal definition in some jurisdiction it means anyone under the age of majority which is 21. So a twenty year old is a child in that context. If that is the context they are using then what is their point?

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Yes I have asked several times now which definition they are using in this context and they get obtuse.

 

Trying to be too literal is a sign you're losing the argument. You know the point being made, try addressing it.

 

And then using the logic that anyone 21 and under is a child, when George "assaulted" the plain clothes cop, he was 21, so therefore, technically a child.

 

18 is the legal age in the eyes of the courts in Florida..

 

Wait a few years. . .you are talking like a very young mom, who believes that her "little angel" will never stray!

I hope for you that it could be true. . .but if your child is normal, he/she will not be an angel 24/7. . .
The good news is that you will still love him/her, and that you can hope what happened to Trayvon will never happen to him/her!

 

NOPE! A child is someone UNDER 18. . .NOT up to 21!

By the way, Zimmerman was 20 when he assaulted the cop. . .and I believe alcohol was involved (his friend, whom the cop was questioning when Zimmerman assaulted him, was drunk and underage. . .as was Zimmerman).

Keep your stories straight, please. NO ONE ever pretended that a person age 21 was legally a "child!"

 

The child Trayvon was old enough to join the Army, smoke dope and beat up adults. I would like to think you would reconcile your definitions to the truth here. How about 'young man'?

 

Yup, 17 yrs old, at least 6' tall, old enuf to legally drive a vehicle, 1 yr away from joining the military, capable of holding down a job, capable of painting a house, doing repair work, doing many things, actually..... but in your world, he's a 'child'.......

In my world, he's one short step away from legally becoming an adult.

If you treat the 17 yr old 'child' like a child, he certainly will act like a one.....

 

It's funny how they think they can get away with changing long-standing definitions and concepts.

They are also inconsistent: they state that Martin should have been "grounded" and stayed home, but in the same thread they say that Martin was an adult.

It's clear that Martin and all over 17-year-olds are children.

 

Maybe you should change Florida law.. Trayvon was a minor.

 

The trial process also found that legally he was shot in an act of self-defense while trying to murder a man. So it goes.

 

So the verdict is in.. I didn't start this thread.. but its very offensive continuing to trash the dead and mock the grief of TM's parents.

We haven't heard the last of George.