If you're okay with homosexual marriage would you support..

And that right there is why, by your own admission you "just do not get it".

 

Whatever helps you sleep at night. You can go thru life getting huffy about the private lives of others, and the imaginary implications on your life while I'll go thru life going along to get along.

 

Again, your own admission of just "not getting it" goes on.

No matter.

There is no use my trying to explain to someone that has stated "Social implications be damned".

Waste of both our time that would be.

 

Yes it is a crime, that is a fact.

However, what is a crime today can be, by patience and stealth, decriminalised in time, even against the will of the people, if they are brow beaten or tricked into it (or simply not asked).

Is it a crime that meets with a fitting and just response? No.

I go into it all here...

http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=329385

The dangers of paedophiles hijacking the homosexual lobbies is real and has implications that I suggest everyone, including decent homosexuals wake up to.

 

It should be a crime to equate homosexuality with pedophilia , or to suggest that gay folks are prone to or condone the sexual abuse of children. It is profoundly ignorant to do so...or is it just that you homophobes will say anything to advance your agenda?

 

By the way Jack, I was a child abuse investigator for a state agency for 26 years. I investigated numerous cases of abuse including sexual abuse. NEVER did I come across a homosexual pedophile. In fact we placed abused child into foster care with gay people. Some were adopted by gay people. No problems at all. What do you have to say about that?

 

Don't be absurd, in which case that was neither my point nor my question.

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Then I suggest you don't look very hard.

 

Who is being absurd?? I don't have a reading comprehension problem. You suggested that pedophiles want to infiltrate the gay lobby to legalize pedophilia. You have no idea what your talking about and to suggest such a thing is opprobrious. Educate yourself ....http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joe-kort-phd/homosexuality-and-pedophi_b_1932622.html

 

Not just want. Have done previously, if they ever stopped doing so. And the dangers that go with it.

The reason you are being absurd is that you ignored that part and went straight to this invented part..

"It should be a crime to equate homosexuality with
pedophilia , or to suggest that gay folks are prone to or condone the sexual abuse of children. "



Do you understand the difference between the words "infiltrate" and "equate"..?

 

For me, it boils down to this:

If government is to extend benefits to couples, government must to extend those benefits to ALL couples, else government should abolish any benefits for couples. For purposes of answering the OP, substitute the word 'groups' for 'couples' in the previous sentence.

The church can still marry people in accordance with their individual beliefs, divine mandates, traditions, or whatever.

 

Now you're playing games with words

 

Trying to link Homosexual marriage and Pedophiles is moronic, Jack.

 

But it explains the government's only reason to become involved. As long as the contract is made by consenting adults, who are both benefiting from the arrangement, the government needs to mind it's own business. If the involved parties want to include religion into the contract that is strictly their choice, also nothing to do with government.

 

No.

You simply misunderstood what I wrote, hence why you went off on one.

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Are you sure it is the "only" reason?

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Read what I wrote, not what I did not write.

 

Spot on.

 

We all know what you wrote. I'm still waiting for the evidence that pedophiles have, or are trying to infiltrate the gay lobby. You presented that as fact and I say it's bunk. You need to back up what you say. There's a rule about that. I'm not taking about pedophilia any more . It's a waist of my time. State you position on gay marriage and make your case without dragging in this kind of extraneous claptrap to divert attention away from the real issue-equality.

 

He makes up Waco crap as he goes then can't back it up and claims that he meant something else.

 

Why not read the posts, and quote WHERE I said homosexuals are paedophiles?

If you cannot do that you are trolling and a waste of further discussion....

 

You said: "The dangers of paedophiles hijacking the homosexual lobbies is real and has implications that I suggest everyone, including decent homosexuals wake up to". If that's not to imply that there is a link between gays and pedophiles , than maybe I'm crazy. Pedophilia should not even be part of the discussion about marriage equality . Its a diversion, a smokescreen, its fear mongering at its worst and it's shameful. What I actually accused you of though is alleging that pedophiles have, or are trying to infiltrate the gay lobby. To say that is at the very least implying that homosexuality and pedophilia are related. Again show me the evidence. Yes, I know that there are pedophile groups that would like to see the law changed and there are a few that identify as gay, but they nothing to do with those lobbying for marriage equality.

 

The only link would be paedophiles infiltrating and hijacking something.

A concept you do not grasp and take to mean "the same as".

Maybe one day you will understand the difference.

 

Having two-person long-term couples implies a certain kind of societal relationship which mirrors the rough division of the sexes in our society. Homosexual couples do not really upset this applecart because the percentage of male homosexuals appears to be close to the percentage of female homosexuals (thus roughly balancing out the numbers). The forms of marriage JN are citing would actually be a larger disarrangement of Western societies, as groups like Mormon Orthodox polygamists demonstrate in their particular isolated communities.

 

I asked you for documentation to back up your assertion and obviously I'm not getting it. I give up. I can't help you . Nothing here to work with.

 

When you are prepared to apologise for your error, then we can talk.

 

I made no error....you're ducking the issue Good day sir!