Tea Party is Ba-aaaack!

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  1. Willys

    Willys New Member Past Donor

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    Tea Party is Ba-aaaack!

    ...and gathering steam
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  2. GlobalCitizen

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    No, it is not dishonesty or ignorance. I am awaiting the IG's statement that says he was wrong. I do read your links. From what I read, it appears the IG acknowledged the existence of possible new evidence, then stated his report was incomplete. I assume he is reviewing the evidence. If he comes out and says he was wrong in his assessment that conservatives were being targeted, I will reassess my stance. Until then, I'm going with his report that said they were targeted combined with the many TP organizations I saw on TV, in interviews, as well as Congressional hearings I saw on TV.
     
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    The US, China, and Russia (formerly the USSR), has protected all nations since WWII to varying degrees. They have acted as deterrents to the military actions of the other 180'ish nations on the planet. The deterrence doesn't always prevent military action, but imo, the effects of the militaries of these 3 nations cannot be understated. This is because war tech has changed the nature of warfare. Without the deterrence of some superpower's (or ideally a UN force) military, there would be much instability and unpredictability in the world. Borders would be redrawn often. This is why I say the US in general, protects the world, since WWII.
     
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    Well,lets go back to the beginning then,for a bit-this whole IRS "so called scandal" came about because Issa" accused" our POTUS of having undue influence as to the outcome of the election by advising the IRS in slowing down the process of TEA Party applications for 501 c4s(got numbers mixed up on my last post)tax exempt status & quote "Issa said we are getting to proving it". It has all been explained that is "fact" the IRS Agents were confused with some applications & sent them to a more experienced agent for interpretation(which then that word "targeting")became the rallying cry because to be more effient the agents began looking for key words like political,tea-party,patriot,ect to sort through the applications that needed more experienced agents to handle-now if you were to go read the transcript of testimony that Elijah Cummings released(that Issa had,but wanted kept secret)you would find out that this big so called scandal was nothing but a "trumped" up witch hunt for GOPBAGGERS to use against our POTUS---Unless you can come up with evidence(because Issa certainly couldn't)despite the many Congressional hearings & Investigations on this issue-our POTUS is innocent of all the charges Issa made against him--so instead of the GOPBAGGERS moving on-the trumped up charges keep getting repeated OVER & OVER & OVER again like it is the truth---like I said it's ok to have your own opinion,but not your own facts--I was very interested in this issue & followed it very closely-There was "Nothing"-there is "nothing" & there won't be "nothing"---time to move on----
     
  5. GlobalCitizen

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    I acknowledge that I haven't heard anything from the IG report or witnesses who say they were targeted that would indicate Obama was responsible for the targeting, or knew about it. It could simply have been liberal leaning govt agents abusing their positions and a flaw in the law, or interpretation/implementation of that law by the IRS. But that doesn't mean I don't want to find out these employees whom the IG says targeted conservatives, or that I don't want accountability for their actions. I'm not willing to say, "Nothin to see here" just because Issa or whoever else took the IG report and went their own direction with it. I'm still going to wait until I hear the IG say, "I was mistaken on the targeting" or he is fired for being mistaken.
     
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    Many countries know they will be protected by the U.S. in a dire situation. Other countries know this.
     
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    And this is proof that someone else would protect us if we didn't have a military to protect ourselves.
     
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    Not true. Tell me who?
     
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    Any of our other allies.............France, UK, Canda, etc. etc.

    So yes it is true unless you can prove me wrong! TRY and once you realize that you can't..............will you be able to change your mind. We will see!
     
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    It was impressively stupid and now most thinking types believe that he's an idiot -- regardless of his education.
     
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    France? LOL!! Canada and the UK may have our back, but they could not cover their own ass and ours simultaneously. We need a strong military.
     
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    Nope, they could all combine their forces..............you know like we did with the UK, France, and Canada in Iraq and Afghanistan! LMAO!

    I wonder why you forgot about them combined? DOH!
     
  13. ProgressivePatriot

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    I'm enjoying the hell out of watching the Tea Party , Establishment Republicans , and the religious right wing nuts tearing each other limb from limb!! The party in fractured and, yes becoming more conservative and that can only be good for the country that is becoming more progressive.
     
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    Gotta break some eggs to make 'that' omelet!
     
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    It always amazes me that liberals think they are the only ones that are "thinking types". That is one of the liberals problems, hubris.
     
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    Conservative countries like Iran and Saudi Arabia are full of educated critical thinkers with lots of rights </sarcasm>
    Conservative southern states in the US are also full of educated critical thinkers with high incomes </sarcasm>
    Conservative groups just love science and never reject ideas that oppose their morality </sarcasm>
    Conservative people are open to new ideas, learning and listening to opposing ideas </sarcasm>

    Instead, conservatives tend to stand on their moral soapbox and dictate how the rest of us hedonists should behave.
     
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    Like I said, arrogance and hubris.
     
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    GOP= Humpty Dumpty
     
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    How about this: They can protect themselves, and we can protect ourselves like our Constitution mandates. Self-reliance - what a grand concept!

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    The RINO Republicans are in trouble. The Tea Party is here to stay. They are the only thing that can save us from a progressive nightmare.
     
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    Progressive nightmare?? I guess that would be me. Business Goes To War Against The Tea Party It Helped Finance http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/10/19/business-goes-war-tea-party/

    Tea Party's Popularity Reaches New Low, Poll Finds http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/16/tea-party-poll_n_4110559.html

    Tea Party’s Image Turns More Negative http://www.people-press.org/2013/10/16/tea-partys-image-turns-more-negative/

    Here to stay??? ROTF LMFAO Where do you get your news?? :wall:
     
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    I don't think any party is favorable with the American People. The Tea Party is for less government, lower taxes, less spending. I think most people agree with that.
     
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    Even if that's true, they don't want it accomplished using the tactics of the likes of Ted Cruz. They shut down the government costing the economy $24B. They pushed us to the brink of default making us look stupid in the eyes of the world and shaking confidence in the US. People are fed up with them and the pools bear that out. If the tea party got full control of the GOP, there will never be another Republican president. People are smarter than that
     
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    Negotiation is a two-way street. The Obama Admin and the Senate didn't budge either. They are to blame as well. We would not have been in a default position. There is enough monthly revenue to service our debt obligations.
     
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    You don't negotiate wit criminally insane terrorists. They were trying to circumvent the legislative process and the judicial system They were having a hissy fit because the lost the election and they lost in court

    QUOTE]There is enough monthly revenue to service our debt obligations.[/QUOTE] That's debatable
     
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    First of all, I didn't know that there were criminally insane terrorists in Congress. Also, who likes to circumnavigate the legislative process? Obama.

    It's a fact. There is enough monthly revenue to avoid a credit default.
     

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