You claim that God does not exist, part 2.

OK - I'm a little hazy on how old testament worshipers earned eternal life.

Islam has its 7 levels of soul that defines progress by works. God informs of a cut-off point in his revelation to Muhammad.

The old testament has plenty of descriptions of those who would likely be excluded, but I don't remember reading of a similar clear definition of what was required for eternal life in the OT era.

 

The only problem with that notion is the fact (which has been seen with the wild conclusions drawn by various posters when they attempt to make conclusions based on what I say) that wrong/incorrect/false conclusions can be made.

Wow! That is a cool quote.

Both are valid words. It would be presumptive of me to assume that you meant to use another word.

Well, to be honest with you again, I don't know too many non-adults who use the level of language used here, or even discussing some of the topics discussed here. Therefore, I am going to have to assume that you are just throwing another tantrum and have nothing that is intellectually honest to say.

Are you suggesting that an explanation is not a 'reason' or an indication of using a reasoning ability?

No! If I wanted to say substantially nothing I would print it like this "substantially nothing".

My goodness. That sounds like pretty clear English to me. What part of it did you not comprehend? Did you even look up the definition of 'compel'?
Here it is:

"com·pel (km-pl)
tr.v. com·pelled, com·pel·ling, com·pels
1. To force, drive, or constrain: Duty compelled the soldiers to volunteer for the mission.
2. To necessitate or pressure by force; exact: An energy crisis compels fuel conservation. See Synonyms at force.
3. To exert a strong, irresistible force on; sway: "The land, in a certain, very real way, compels the minds of the people" (Barry Lopez)." Now do you understand? Your arguments present none of those qualities to my mind. The reason why they did not present any of those qualities is because I my mind is not affected by any of those qualities.

Yes! Your argument is useless when you apply your argument to me.

Another tangential maneuver being presented by GraspingforPeace.
it depends on what the mathematics are expressing. Einstein proclaimed that the laws of mathematics have nothing to do with reality.,,, so what about the mathematics is your concern?

Who really knows? I can only guess on that one, and my best guess would be that "you are gullible enough to believe what others have told you?"

Yes your analogy was rather absurd because it has nothing to do with the subject matter we were discussing.

Yes I can, but we are not allowed to talk about other members and what has been communicated on the private side.

 

So math is not valid because someone else told us about that.
How do you count your change, check your bank account?
This must be so hard for you.

Was the person that supported you in private to embarrassed to admit it publicly? What was the big secret?

 

in the old testament in the beginning it was grace. You can choose to eat the apple or not god knows the future.. so he knew they would eat it. Adam and Eve's had children one offered god veggies the other meat. God enjoyed the meat.. so then we can conclude after the garden it was more works based. Also evident by the fact that the people had did evil, and thus God told Noah to go into the ark. It was works based until during exodus when the people complained when God was giving them everything while leading them to safety. So he gave us commandments.. and Moses was not permitted to immediately go into the promise land because instead of speaking to the rock to bring water to his people, he hit it remember? So it was commandment based with the exception of the grace that God always hold. After Jesus of course we have to put our faith in him and it is faith in what he did for us.

 

I don't think you understand. Its not that I think "if I dont believe, I wont suffer in hell." Its that I think "there is no hell, so I wont suffer there, regardless of whether I believe or not."

 

Well as long as you believe in Jesus, I reckon you don't have to believe in it because you are saved. But it is in the bible PEOPLE HAVE WITNESSED it, me being one who has been shown and converted. It also says in the bible. We sent our witnesses and you did not believe! God knows the future if he is telling it to you years before it happens believe in him.

 

Witnessed what?

 

The Bible. People have witnessed the Bible, and in witnessing the Bible, they have also witnessed what is in the Bible.

 

Only if they open it.
You can't see the inside unless you do.

 

Gee,,, did you learn that in seminary or in grade school?

 

Can't remember, but I had to teach it to you and you are almost 65.
So there's that.

 

The only thing you have taught me and others on this forum is the fact that you are an admitted liar. So there's that.

 

cool yet another fundie-lie.

 

LOLOL!

 

Laughing but no way to make an effective rebuttal. How pitiful.

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Then maybe you are one of those who were gullible enough to believe his lies.

 

Let he who has never lied cast the first stone.
LOL!

 

There is no stone needed to be cast, it was your admission that told the world you are a liar.

 

Is there a human who can't say the same?
You, for instance?

 

I have never accused the Bible of being lies.

 

Your accusation in post 742 is not that specific.
Have you ever lied?
Just kidding.
I know the answer.

 

Good nite BB. Make sure that you STUDY.

 

Sorry. As a Christian I thought you would understand the reference.
You see, the woman wasn't denying anything. Jesus was condemning the accusers. That's your role in the story. Whether I am guilty or not isn't relevant in the story. What is relevant is if you are free from this "sin".
Your bluster about something I did and had a conscience over and quit doing (I know you don't want to talk about that part of the story and how you agreed I had been lying) doesn't change you being just as guilty.

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Goodnight sweety.
Put some bandages on those wounds before bedtime.

 

Oh, OK. I thought he was trying to post something non-trivial, but if you think he's only basically saying that the bible exists and contains words, I certainly won't argue with that.

 

The only problem with your flimsy excuse (rationalization) above is the fact that you are still telling lies.

There are no wounds to bandage and I for a certainty am not your "sweety". You can save your homosexual endearments for one of the other people on this forum.

 

They're all for you!